Shurmur emerging as a frontrunner for the Cardinals?

[Chopper0080]

I know probably we arent atteactive as others but we have a solid organization and a friendly environment to make an outsider coach succesfull

This is a good point. Just because we aren't the most attractive option, doesn't make us a bad organization. It just means that we are not able to pick from the top of the candidate pile. We have to do more work, and will have to find someone off the radar that can do the job if we want to be successful.

 

[DevonCardsFan]

This is a good point. Just because we aren't the most attractive option, doesn't make us a bad organization. It just means that we are not able to pick from the top of the candidate pile. We have to do more work, and will have to find someone off the radar that can do the job if we want to be successful.

Which is why I would want to add Someone like Wilks. I really think adding a glorified OL Coach; isn't the way to go. I read of so many players and coaches saying how great Wilks is; I don't hear the same about Munchak

 

[redheat]

Our division of QB's doesn't help our cause either. I'd rather face NFC east 2x a year.

 

[Southpaw]

I can't not believe that at least one candidate not yet considered might appear on the horizon - a college coach like Shaw. A QB whisperer out of a college or pro pgm.

That is a candidate I would be interested in. Have said so for awhile. He spent time on pro staffs and has been running a very good program for quite awhile. Bryce Love just announced he is going back for his senior year and they are loaded for a PAC 12 title run. Makes me think Shaw turned down the offers to interview.

 

[Southpaw]

Which is why I would want to add Someone like Wilks. I really think adding a glorified OL Coach; isn't the way to go. I read of so many players and coaches saying how great Wilks is; I don't hear the same about Munchak

Isn't Wilks a glorified LB coach? Not exactly tough to coach up Keuchly and Davis.

 

[Mitch]

Isn't Wilks a glorified LB coach? Not exactly tough to coach up Keuchly and Davis.

Wilks is a DB specialist.

 

[DevonCardsFan]

Isn't Wilks a glorified LB coach? Not exactly tough to coach up Keuchly and Davis.

Lol If they can grab Munchak and bring back Haley I wouldnt hate it. More Pittsburgh West and we got our Bell in DJ improved O line and throw Alex Smith trade or Landry Jones and I wouldn't mind trying to build the Steelers offense and continiuancy with Betcher. Fitz would be for a Haley return as well; with Fimiliarity

I THINK DODGING A SHURMER BULLET; Was good what if the Cards broke bank to add Keenum; a non franchise qb; Completely a system qb or a Bradford. I wouod be for a Pittsburgh West

 

[Snakester]

The dominoes still have to fall, but if Patricia goes to Detroit, Shurmur to the Giants, McDaniels to the Colts, and Nagy to the Bears, it really wouldn't look like the league views the Cardinals as a top opportunity.

Out of those teams the Cardinals easily look like the best option. All we need to do is draft our QBOTF and bring in a few players. Our roster looks better than any of those teams except at QB right now. Our stadium and ownership are better than any of those teams as well.

 

[oaken1]

Out of those teams the Cardinals easily look like the best option. All we need to do is draft our QBOTF and bring in a few players. Our roster looks better than any of those teams except at QB right now. Our stadium and ownership are better than any of those teams as well.

its possible some of those teams made offers during the interview whereas we know MB wants to get in second interviews and facility tours.
HC jobs in the NFL are rare and if a guy wants to make that move he needs to jump on an opportunity when it presents itself. if said guy chooses to stall a bit to see if he gets another offer the first team may get nervous and offer the job to someone else.

 

[overseascardfan]

Good luck to Shurmur, the NY media will eat him alive next year if NY doesn’t make the playoffs.

 

[MrYeahBut]

Good luck to Shurmur, the NY media will eat him alive next year if NY doesn’t make the playoffs.

You guys on this board are all tougher than the NY media. You'd eat him alive x 2

 

[Buckybird]

Nobody but Nagy has been signed. The Lions, Giants, & Colts still have openings.

What part of reports didn’t you understand

Things could fall thru but generally these reports come to fruition because there is some sort of agreement.

 

[cardncubfan]

What part of reports didn’t you understand

Things could fall thru but generally these reports come to fruition because there is some sort of agreement.

Reports are just that. Reports. Nothing is official. You can smile & pull your pants down all you want. Still doesn't make it a fact. Do the teams have them on their websites? Have they introduced them yet? Early reports had Patricia guaranteed at 3 different teams.

 

[THESMEL]

You do realize the steelers were down by a lot of points for most the game and HAD to pass to catch up?

Beanie didn't have that 70 yard run, Hightower did. Also, in your warped mind in a game where we were down 35-14 at halftime we could have kept running the ball? And finally, we were not destroyed in the Super Bowl. We had the Fing lead with 2 minutes to play. Had our defense done it's job would you still be whining about running the ball? Again, this isn't 1950 anymore. Oh, and back to that divisional playoff against New Orleans, take away that 70 yard run and this is what our rushing game looked like on that day:

Hightower-5 carries for 17 yards
Wells-5 carries for 7 yards
Stephens-Howlings-2 carries for 4 yards
Wright-1 carry for 3 yards

In case your math is shaky, that's 13 carries for a whopping 31 yards so please tell me where running the ball more would have made a difference.

I said tht -re read it- how could tht have 17 yards with 80td on first play? well we had a 3 score lead running the bean against the packers the week before in 09 before the best pass fest ever. We passed kurt to death- ended his career that saints game- cause the saints took bounty and knew Whiz never balancedup the game plan- how did you expect win ?- when saints were playing kill kurt- and they did! Again we watched 2 different games I guess-

We’re 30th in rushing again - not giving our team a chance- if we DJ behind that effort- were plain wrong again.

 

[NJCardFan]

I said tht -re read it- how could tht have 17 yards with 80td on first play? well we had a 3 score lead running the bean against the packers the week before in 09 before the best pass fest ever. We passed kurt to death- ended his career that saints game- cause the saints took bounty and knew Whiz never balancedup the game plan- how did you expect win ?- when saints were playing kill kurt- and they did! Again we watched 2 different games I guess-

We’re 30th in rushing again - not giving our team a chance- if we DJ behind that effort- were plain wrong again.

Yes we apparently did watch 2 different games because you are either woefully ignorant, dense, or intellectually dishonest. Can be all 3 but it can't by none of them. For starters, for the 2nd time, it was a 70 yard run and it was a fluke. New Orleans was looking for us to pass and we threw in a run and caught them off guard then for the rest of the game we could only muster 31 rushing yards. This is a fact as much as you want to deny it.

And since you like to cherry pick games, let's harken back to a Monday night in 2006. You remember. The then undefeated and eventual NFC champion Bears were in town on a night where we held their offense to zero TD's and we led 20-0 at halftime then 23-3 in the 3rd quarter when Matt Leenert was sacked, fumbled, and it was returned for a TD but we still had a 23-10 lead going into the 4th quarter when Dennis Green put the ball into his back pocket and began slamming Edge into the line time and time again. We ran the ball 38 times that game with Edge carrying it 36 of those times for a whopping 55 yards and he ended up fumbling for a TD. So, how did running the ball almost 40 times work out that game? I mean, go back and look at the play by play for that game and count how many times it says, "Edgerrin James right tackle for no gain" or -1 yard or 2 yard. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/200610160crd.htm

 

[Southpaw]

Wilks is a DB specialist.

That is even worse.

 

[Mitch]

That is even worse.

Why?

 

[BillsCarnage]

What part of reports didn’t you understand

Things could fall thru but generally these reports come to fruition because there is some sort of agreement.

Kinda like this one that was making the rounds a few weeks ago?

http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/new...-eagles-dc-favorite/n780cozevnun1d0b3h89wra9y

 

[Chopper0080]

Out of those teams the Cardinals easily look like the best option. All we need to do is draft our QBOTF and bring in a few players. Our roster looks better than any of those teams except at QB right now. Our stadium and ownership are better than any of those teams as well.

Wrong. Detroit has Stafford. Indy has Luck. The Giants have Eli and the #2 pick in the draft. Hell, even Tennessee has Mariota. We don't have a single QB on the roster. We have a #15 draft pick. If we had any of the Qbs that these other teams had, we would be the top option. But, because we don't, we are near the bottom. The greatest coach in NFL history got fired in Cleveland because he didn't have a QB. That is how much that position matters.

 

[THESMEL]

Yes we apparently did watch 2 different games because you are either woefully ignorant, dense, or intellectually dishonest. Can be all 3 but it can't by none of them. For starters, for the 2nd time, it was a 70 yard run and it was a fluke. New Orleans was looking for us to pass and we threw in a run and caught them off guard then for the rest of the game we could only muster 31 rushing yards. This is a fact as much as you want to deny it.

And since you like to cherry pick games, let's harken back to a Monday night in 2006. You remember. The then undefeated and eventual NFC champion Bears were in town on a night where we held their offense to zero TD's and we led 20-0 at halftime then 23-3 in the 3rd quarter when Matt Leenert was sacked, fumbled, and it was returned for a TD but we still had a 23-10 lead going into the 4th quarter when Dennis Green put the ball into his back pocket and began slamming Edge into the line time and time again. We ran the ball 38 times that game with Edge carrying it 36 of those times for a whopping 55 yards and he ended up fumbling for a TD. So, how did running the ball almost 40 times work out that game? I mean, go back and look at the play by play for that game and count how many times it says, "Edgerrin James right tackle for no gain" or -1 yard or 2 yard. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/200610160crd.htm

Well I remember touch back and first play from scrimmage tht went 80td- and cards ran it 9 more times total in the game - and got kurt killed - Leinart came in and did ok, but to far behind after turnovers- bounty gate game.

Monday night meltdown was won with Greens strategy - until meltdown - that’s what made it MNM.

If you want to crown them, then-crown their asses, but they are who we thought they were, and we let them off the hook! Hhmmpphh

 

[Ronin]

Sounds like “he gone!”

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