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[JCSunsfan]

Ah ok. So a Jae Crowder-type. Gotcha.

He weighs 25 pounds less than Crowder. He is a great scrappy defender though.

 

[Proximo]

Christian Wood? The Rockets say they are listening to offers. He shoots in the upper 30's from 3, rebounds in double digits, and blocks 1.2 a game. Maybe he could play pf? Price is probably high, but it would be picks I suppose. It's tough. Our picks aren't worth much these days.

Saric and Smith's salaries match. But value would have to be added somewhere. Just noodling ideas here.

I would stay away.

If he isn't working in Houston when he is a young guy with potential that is a giant red flag about his personality / work ethic.

 

[Proximo]

Remind me, why do we need another wing?

1. Being able to matchup with the Warriors.

2. Abdel Nader is not good enough to play minutes - at least he hasn't been this season.

3. Books hammy could be an issue all year.

 

[Mainstreet]

1. Being able to matchup with the Warriors.

2. Abdel Nader is not good enough to play minutes - at least he hasn't been this season.

3. Books hammy could be an issue all year.

Nader has been out so long I have the feeling he is not coming back this season. I don't even see video of him shooting.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Really good deep dive on the Suns on The Mismatch podcast on the ringer network.

 

[overseascardfan]

I would stay away.

If he isn't working in Houston when he is a young guy with potential that is a giant red flag about his personality / work ethic.

HOU is a train wreck so it may not be all him. He got paid and is still producing. I think a change of scenery would benefit him especially with the leadership on this team but his numbers will go down because PHX has a lot more scoring options. Not sure what HOU is going to ask for him and fitting him under salary cap will be the challenges.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Basically he said if the suns had wanted to pay him that much, they would have resigned him themselves.

Yeah, that's not good. In the end, Craig might be more expensive to replace than what the Pacers paid him.

 

[Mainstreet]

Yeah, that's not good. In the end, Craig might be more expensive to replace than what the Pacers paid him.

I'd think Craig would be easy to trade if it came down to that next season.

 

[1tinsoldier]

yes, i heard Gambo postulate that "if the Suns wanted to keep Craig they would have" but i postulate that since Craig's offense dropped off in the playoffs, and Nader looked good before his injury, they were banking on Nader's upside.

it looks like a mistake now. let's undo it. Craig's energy turned a number of games around last season, when it looked like we were losing mojo. (Oubre and Holmes also used to do that for us. and Melton's defensive energy, to a lesser degree)

 

[Mainstreet]

yes, i heard Gambo postulate that "if the Suns wanted to keep Craig they would have" but i postulate that since Craig's offense dropped off in the playoffs, and Nader looked good before his injury, they were banking on Nader's upside.

it looks like a mistake now. let's undo it

I hope the Suns are no longer counting on injury management with Nader.

Looking at the injury report, I see Chandler Hutchison is available for tonight's game although I'm not sure if he has been called up from the G-League.

When the Suns are down to using two-way players, it's time to start looking for other options.

 

[Mainstreet]

I was listening to Duane Rankin on a podcast the other day. He said something to the effect James Jones is always looking for ways to improve the team whereas Monty Williams concentrates more on team chemistry and working with the players he has.

I knew this about Monty but I didn't really know that Jones was that active behind the scene.

 

[Finito]

I was listening to Duane Rankin on a podcast the other day. He said something to the effect James Jones is always looking for ways to improve the team whereas Monty Williams concentrates more on team chemistry and working with the players he has.

I knew this about Monty but I didn't really know that Jones was that active behind the scene.

Pretty much just described every GM who actually cares

 

[Mainstreet]

Pretty much just described every GM who actually cares

They interviewed James Jones during the Spurs game. Too bad I couldn't pay proper attention to it. I wish they would do these interviews at halftime.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Pretty much just described every GM who actually cares

Lol... I thought the same thing.

 

[Mainstreet]

Lol... I thought the same thing.

We don't hear a lot about what James Jones does behind the scene.

It was refreshing to hear Duane Rankin say something to the effect he leaves no rock unturned. We heard Ryan McDonough did a lot of analytic stuff on his computer.

 

[GatorAZ]

Sabonis or Wood would be incredible additions but they’re impossible to trade for unless Ayton or Bridges are in the deal. I don’t consider Ayton untouchable but there’s nothing out there that makes sense. I worry about Golden St trading Wiseman and something else for Wood.

 

[Mainstreet]

Sabonis or Wood would be incredible additions but they’re impossible to trade for unless Ayton or Bridges are in the deal. I don’t consider Ayton untouchable but there’s nothing out there that makes sense. I worry about Golden St trading Wiseman and something else for Wood.

Supposedly the Warriors have no interest in trading James Wiseman.

Warriors Absolutely Not Trading James Wiseman

Warriors Absolutely Not Trading James Wiseman - RealGM Wiretap

basketball.realgm.com

 

[Muggz]

Sabonis or Wood would be incredible additions but they’re impossible to trade for unless Ayton or Bridges are in the deal. I don’t consider Ayton untouchable but there’s nothing out there that makes sense. I worry about Golden St trading Wiseman and something else for Wood.

I think id rather lose forever than trade Bridges.

 

[GatorAZ]

I think id rather lose forever than trade Bridges.

They won’t but it would be the only way to get Sabonis. Some of those trash deals fans have brought up will never happen.

 

[Phrazbit]

I think id rather lose forever than trade Bridges.

Bridges is the only player on the team who were are outscored when they are NOT in the game.

I think he is tremendously important and even straight up for Sabonis (who I really like) would be colossal mistake.

 

[JCSunsfan]

I think fans might have a harder time with a Bridges trade than even a Booker trade. He is becoming maybe the best loved player on the team.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Bridges is the only player on the team who were are outscored when they are NOT in the game.

I think he is tremendously important and even straight up for Sabonis (who I really like) would be colossal mistake.

Yeah, we've never had a player quite like Bridges and there aren't many in the league that I'd trade him for.

 

[Phrazbit]

Yeah, we've never had a player quite like Bridges and there aren't many in the league that I'd trade him for.

He is somewhere between a fabulously rich man's Bruce Bowen (only without being dirty) and a poor man's Klay Thompson... but I think better defensively. As a shooter, Bridges has similar splits to Klay at the same point in their careers, but Klay was a lot more aggressive at finding his spots and not at all shy about taking them. Some of that I can chalk up to Klay playing with Curry; Curry is probably the greatest player ever at creating his own shot AND creating shots for his teammates.

 

[Sparky16]

Yeah, we've never had a player quite like Bridges and there aren't many in the league that I'd trade him for.

Bridges is Shawn Marion with less hopps and a better shot w/o the whining

I would seriously entertain Ayton for Sabonis, i know thats blasphemy on this board but he is a better fit. Ayton BB IQ and effort is just not there. Seeing what McGee did last night as a replacement is exactly why the Suns did not max AD. The wings and CP is what fills ADs stat line, not some overwhelming game AD has. He is soft and plays to much below the rim and has zero game in the low post with his back to the basket. sorry but true.

Its more important to have $ to extend someone like Johnson and plan for $ flexibility to fill the PG position when CP is done. you dont pay max $ anymore for a 5 to play D and rebound, that can be had for 10-15M not 40+

 

[elindholm]

I would seriously entertain Ayton for Sabonis, i know thats blasphemy on this board but he is a better fit.

I think Sabonis is pretty poor defensively, so I'd worry about that. But Ayton's market value is a lot higher, so the Suns could ask for more in the deal, not that I know what it would be.

Ayton BB IQ and effort is just not there. Seeing what McGee did last night as a replacement is exactly why the Suns did not max AD. The wings and CP is what fills ADs stat line, not some overwhelming game AD has. He is soft and plays to much below the rim and has zero game in the low post with his back to the basket.

Agree with all of this. Put Ayton on a team where he doesn't have a Hall-of-Fame PG setting him up, and he becomes almost irrelevant offensively. But he's still a good presence on the defensive end.