Simmons traded to Giants for a 7th

[phillycard]

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Back is looking ok for Murphy these days.

Man, I'm gonna miss 7. He looks amazing in this clip. Hollywood could NOT get open.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Agreed.



Eh. Simmons is a bust and Jones was a career back-up.
Murphy and Allen are hardly nuking the jobsite.

Allen couldn't get past a journeyman Center, with a name nobody can pronounce, that pretty much everyone laughed at when they found out he was going to be the starter.

 

[kerouac9]

Allen couldn't get past a journeyman Center, with a name nobody can pronounce, that pretty much everyone laughed at when they found out he was going to be the starter.

Indeed, a handful of preseason snaps are far more definitive than four years of actual regular season football play.

 

[Big D]

Simmons said he didn't want to play LB. Asked to be moved to safety.

Someone(s) in charge still had to put some actual thought behind a change like that and sign off on it though. At least I would hope they would have.

Now I’m picturing Simmons showing up to camp and just walking straight into the DB meeting room like nah, I’m good on LB. Let me see what y’all got goin on over here.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Indeed, a handful of preseason snaps are far more definitive than four years of actual regular season football play.

Did you see that youtube clip!?!!

 

[BullheadCardFan]

DeAndre Hopkins clowns Cardinals after trading linebacker for 7th-round pick ​

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Hopkins thinks it's a steal New York was able to acquire 2020 top 10 selection for such a low pick

 

[Chopper0080]

God help Monti and Gannon in the very unlikely world that Simmons is good in New York,

 

[Krangodnzr]

Do they? THAT'S sunk cost fallacy, my guy.

No holding onto him is. Realizing he is a sunk cost and moving on is avoiding the sunk cost fallacy.

Not even soft balls here. Wiffle balls.

 

[FB94]

Monti doing his best interpretation of Belichek with these moves. Maybe his time in NE he has learned to cut bait and not look back.

 

[pemory09]

Thoughts

On his way now to a great career….

 

[Tacticool Nerd]

What is left? Where exactly are the good young players you need to...you know, win games either now or in the future? Are we hoping to strike gold on the Kyzir White and Pascal?

The vision is quite cloudy at this point.

Murphy and Allen weren't exactly world beaters. They were decent players on a bad team which made them look better.

Am I saying that cause they're no longer here? Perhaps. But seeing how Froholdt manhandled Allen in the PS kinda showed me that.

Murphy on the other hand I thought he was a good player. But that's just the way things go. Can't force players to re-sign and can't just give them a outrageous contact to make them stay with cap space and such.

Simmons was all potential and just couldn't find a way to make things click with him.

 

[GatorAZ]

UPS.

Except he can’t change direction.

 

[Arz101]

Except he can’t change direction.

I fell down laughing please call 111

 

[HairZach]

Lions got a 5th rounder for Okudah and he was worse than Simmons plus has a bad injury history.

 

[daves]

Everything is pointing to a complete tear-down, and I just hope the new front office recognizes that is what they are doing because I'm starting to doubt it.
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Either way, it's a full rebuild. With this team, I can't rule out the first, even if it's probably the 2nd.

Just remember whatever their plan is... they keep telling us they are trying to build a team for a quick turnaround, but all we keep seeing is the removal of talent. Full rebuild.

You may be the only person on the planet who thought the Cardinals were attempting a quick turnaround.

There are thousands of posts on this board about how they're "tearing everything down to the studs", and yours is the first I've seen to express surprise that they're not really attempting a quick turnaround. Not sure where you could've possibly got that idea or how anyone can be surprised at this point.

How could you possibly question whether the front office "recognizes" that they're doing a complete rebuild? Have they made one single solitary move that's clearly intended to add talent immediately so they can compete this season?!

The only thing I've seen people question is whether they're tearing things down too far and not making moves to compete NEXT season. The consensus seems to be that at the rate they're going the team won't compete until 2025.

I am truly baffled by your reaction!

 

[oaken1]

The idea that one of the worst teams in football last year needs a wake-up call in training camp doesn’t speak very highly about the players on this team or the coaches hired to prepare them for the season.

Or the team culture they have grown accustomed too

 

[Brian in Mesa]

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[THESMEL]

You may be the only person on the planet who thought the Cardinals were attempting a quick turnaround.

There are thousands of posts on this board about how they're "tearing everything down to the studs", and yours is the first I've seen to express surprise that they're not really attempting a quick turnaround. Not sure where you could've possibly got that idea or how anyone can be surprised at this point.

How could you possibly question whether the front office "recognizes" that they're doing a complete rebuild? Have they made one single solitary move that's clearly intended to add talent immediately so they can compete this season?!

The only thing I've seen people question is whether they're tearing things down too far and not making moves to compete NEXT season. The consensus seems to be that at the rate they're going the team won't compete until 2025.

I am truly baffled by your reaction!

Be baffled but I think we are better and thus is the NFL. The talent gap is not as Deep and wide as paid analyst try to make it, I remind you none are ever very good at predicting. ESPN can get a better track record after the purge with starstruck foreign phone call workers.

I remain convinced if we can run the damned ball and give all 3 offensive dimensions a chance to to be efficient , effective we can win our division, if we can win our division we can win it all. If we can compete without KM then insert him into a more balanced offensive attack, great things will happen.

besides I’m a Arizona Cardinal football club fanatic, I don’t have to listen to reason, smushdown, TAKE IT LIKE A FAN!
Ive fanned against greater odds than this in the heat of SDS. I like Simmons but he did not want to play his natural position, that would be best for the team.

don’t let the door hit you, where the hood lord split you.

 

[BritCard]

DeAndre Hopkins clowns Cardinals after trading linebacker for 7th-round pick ​

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Hopkins thinks it's a steal New York was able to acquire 2020 top 10 selection for such a low pick

"Former player that was cut calls his former team clowns for trading his best buddy" is not really shocking.

 

[BritCard]

God help Monti and Gannon in the very unlikely world that Simmons is good in New York,

It's beyond very unlikely. He straight up sucks. We all know he sucks. We all hoped a new staff could stop him sucking and that it was Vance. But obviously it's not.

He does actually just suck at football.

It's possible Wink gets something out of him as a situational player which is basically what Vance did with him last year and gives him a stat line that flatters his true ability. Blitzing from off ball backer. QB spy. Maybe occasional Edge rusher. But it would be a miracle if he was ever a reliable starter. He's one of the worst coverage players I've ever seen. It's like his spine is fused to his pelvis.

He was a bad draft pick by Keim that was going to suck this year and walk next year. Getting anything back for him is a bonus.

 

[BritCard]

Lions got a 5th rounder for Okudah and he was worse than Simmons plus has a bad injury history.

He really wasn't worse than Simmons.

 

[Goldfield]

Never used right. Could have been another Daryl Washington. When a player doesn’t read and react well you assign him to whatever so he doesn’t have to think. Like cover the back or cover the tight end or blitz the A gap. Putting him as a DB was stupid. I put this on coaching.

I agree it’s much smarter to assign him to whatever.

 

[DVontel]

I feel like Isaiah was built to be a track star.

 

[FB94]

I feel like Isaiah was built to be a track star.

Good call, looks like A decathlon candidate

 

[BritCard]

The NFL world is weird.

Had Simmons stayed he would have sucked again (because he's sucked in practice and in preseason) and he would have walked for nothing. And everyone here and in the larger NFL world would have said "It's Keim's fault. Bust pick".

But because the new regime already sees that coming from watching him practice and watching his film and trades him for a 7th round pick it's "They only got a 7th! If he balls out now Monti is going to look stupid."

The FO and coaches KNOW exactly what Simmons is and they got what they could for him because they strongly believe he isn't good enough to be a starter and his future, if he has one, lies elsewhere.

The smart move is exactly what they have done. The old regime would have done nothing and let him walk for nothing.