Smeltdown: Leinart cut by Texans

[82CardsGrad]

LOL dawg. Nasty, but funny as hell.

The Leenart...damn, I wanted you to be good more than you did.

Quote of the year right there!!

 

[Shane]

Quote of the year right there!!

Donalds head is big enough! Please stop encouraging the animals

 

[Phrazbit]

No way is he better than Skelton or Kolb. Maybe as injury prone as Kolb, but not better.

The only difference between Leenart and Kolb as QBs is that Kolb is right handed. Both dink and dunk, hold on too long, anti-clutch, weak armed, injury prone stiffs.

 

[AzStevenCal]

The only difference between Leenart and Kolb as QBs is that Kolb is right handed. Both dink and dunk, hold on too long, anti-clutch, weak armed, injury prone stiffs.

I don't know, I really liked Matt until his first injury with us. He just never seemed the same after that.

Steve

 

[Phrazbit]

I don't know, I really liked Matt until his first injury with us. He just never seemed the same after that.

Steve

I liked Matt at first too, and considering the other option when they cut him was D-Rock Andersuck... they shouldnt have cut him. But in a Kolb vs Leinart debate, I just have a hard time seeing how one makes a wide separation vs the other. Kolb's arm isnt AS bad as Matt's but at the same time Matt isnt AS worthless in the pocket.

 

[Shane]

I liked Matt at first too, and considering the other option when they cut him was D-Rock Andersuck... they shouldnt have cut him. But in a Kolb vs Leinart debate, I just have a hard time seeing how one makes a wide separation vs the other. Kolb's arm isnt AS bad as Matt's but at the same time Matt isnt AS worthless in the pocket.

Considering how bad Matty has been and how injury prone as we'll as childish. To just say they shouldn't have cut him is just a tad overstated IMO. Especially considering none of us know the behind the scenes goings on as well.

 

[Phrazbit]

Considering how bad Matty has been and how injury prone as we'll as childish. To just say they shouldn't have cut him is just a tad overstated IMO. Especially considering none of us know the behind the scenes goings on as well.

I am not claiming the guy was anything but a major douche, but the team should have come to grips with that fact after 4 years. If they disliked him enough to seriously consider letting him go then they should have addressed QB in the draft or kicked the tires on some realistic options.

But when you are leaving you season in the hands of Derek Anderson, statistically the worst QB of the last 20 years, then you are just asking for a disaster. Anderson was so wretched that the team then compounded their problems and made a desperation move... eventually paying a premium to go from Leinart, to Anderson... then to a right handed version of Leinart.

 

[THESMEL]

Well 3 season ending shoulder injurys, But i can't give up on him yet, last time on the field he went 9-10 in part of a regular season game for Houston, Which is still elite performance just like the Cards preseason before he was cut.

I have to see him fail on the field, I bet Matty starts for someone by the end of 2012, When do you expect Kolb to go 9-10? Skelton had a small streak like that once? DA Max, Bartel not so much.

I'm not going to apoligise or change my mind, I think Matty is better than Kolb and Skelton. I think He is better than Peyton Manning with a bad throwing arm. I know what I seeen on the field, the all around NFL QB skills.

Rolls right or left, throws accurate either way, great deep touch, great decisions, embraces a balanced offense. yea he is equal to or better than all but the top 10 QB's in the NFL. I lower my grade that much. to a 90 out of 100- Kolb is still 79

 

[azsouthendzone]

 

[Phrazbit]

Rolls right or left, throws accurate either way, great deep touch, great decisions, embraces a balanced offense. yea he is equal to or better than all but the top 10 QB's in the NFL. I lower my grade that much. to a 90 out of 100- Kolb is still 79

Lets keep the skills discussion restricted to the field and out of the hot-tub.

 

[Shane]

I think He is better than Peyton Manning with a bad throwing arm.

Yup this confirms it. You are either on dope or insane. Really no other explanation. LMAO

 

[D-Dogg]

I think He is better than Peyton Manning with a bad throwing arm.

FFS man, I loved Leinart but you are just being ridiculous.

Peyton Manning was NEVER as bad as Leinart was, and Leinart has NEVER been as good as the 5head. Never. Ever.

Jeez.

 

[thephoenixson28]

Well 3 season ending shoulder injurys, But i can't give up on him yet, last time on the field he went 9-10 in part of a regular season game for Houston, Which is still elite performance just like the Cards preseason before he was cut.

I have to see him fail on the field, I bet Matty starts for someone by the end of 2012, When do you expect Kolb to go 9-10? Skelton had a small streak like that once? DA Max, Bartel not so much.

I'm not going to apoligise or change my mind, I think Matty is better than Kolb and Skelton. I think He is better than Peyton Manning with a bad throwing arm. I know what I seeen on the field, the all around NFL QB skills.

Rolls right or left, throws accurate either way, great deep touch, great decisions, embraces a balanced offense. yea he is equal to or better than all but the top 10 QB's in the NFL. I lower my grade that much. to a 90 out of 100- Kolb is still 79

Give it up thesmel or should i say matt lienart.

 

[WarnerHOF]

Guy is a troll. I learned to stop taking him seriously a long time ago.

 

[gmabel830]

Favorite comment from the PFT article on the subject:

"Couldn’t they get three 6ths and a 7th from the Redskins?"

 

[JAB]

Lets keep the skills discussion restricted to the field and out of the hot-tub.

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Yup this confirms it. You are either on dope or insane. Really no other explanation. LMAO

I like how you highlighted a statement without the most important context. He said "with a bad throwing arm" That would be true with almost any quarterback. If he believes or Peyton Manning isn't going to be healthy his statement isn't ridiculous.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

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Great capture of the meaningless 7 in a 47-7 loss.

 

[Shane]

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I like how you highlighted a statement without the most important context. He said "with a bad throwing arm" That would be true with almost any quarterback. If he believes or Peyton Manning isn't going to be healthy his statement isn't ridiculous.

The entire statement is ridiculous..The Bolded is the most important part thats why I highlighted it. I didn't omit the other part FYI. He saying that if Leinart didn't have injury problems he would be better than Manning. Leinart when healthy and at his best was never in the same league as manning at any point in his career. You backing him up makes me think you take the same drugs he does

 

[Catfish]

He won more games here, his first two seasons with less starts than Kurt Warner did. I personally believe he couldn't handle the relationship he had with Whisenhunt. Quarterbacks can be very strange between the ears. I personally don't believe he was a good mix with Whisenhunt. The guy seemed to get progressively worse with the obvious lack of support and confidence from his head coach that I personally believe was personality driven and not performance-based. I base that opinion by the fact he was told he had earned the job and had done everything he was asked and all reports were he was ready to lead the team to only get 27 pass attempts in four games and shown the door. Whisenhunt never liked him and was never going to let him start for this team. Not to mention we had to learn a new way of evaluating quarterbacks besides performance. We learned, moxie and swagger were more important.

As far as Kolb is concerned he might and I say again he might have more talent but it doesn't matter he doesn't have the guts to stand there and face a pass rush. Whatever Matt Leinart was he wasn't scared and that alone makes him a better quarterback than Kolb.

As far as John Skelton is concerned I believe he has potential to grow into a better quarterback but he certainly wasn't a better one at the time and still isn't a better one today. John Skelton has proven he can handle the pressure but his accuracy is so erratic until proven otherwise he is not a viable option. Accuracy can be improved over time but his accuracy is so poor and so erratic I'm not sure how you can make the claim he's better than Matt.

The fact remains no one since Kurt Warner has retired has even come close as bad as people may say Matt Leinart was to playing even at he's level. It really isn't really a compliment to Matt, as it is a glaring obvious lack of any production we've seen from the garbage play we have had a quarterback. There's a reason after paying what we did for Kolb were trying to bring in Peyton Manning and it isn't because Kolb and Skelton have shown there the answer anytime soon.

JAB-----I don't know where you have been hiding, but your assessment of this situation of our QB situation is smack-on. Please continue to voice your opinions more often, as this board could use more actual informative analysis just as our QB's could use more actual performance based evaluation than they have gotten from the Whiz. It is certainly welcome, at least to me, to see that someone is actually developing an opinion based on genuine observation as opposed to merely choosing a side and vocalizing from that standpoint regardless of actual occurrances. Your thoughts on this matter are like a breath of fresh air for those of us who have been suffering from the foul stench that frequently crosses this board.

 

[Shane]

Your thoughts on this matter are like a breath of fresh air for those of us who have been suffering from the foul stench that frequently crosses this board.

May I suggest a shower on occasion?

 

[D-Dogg]

May I suggest a shower on occasion?

With you? DUDE!

 

[Shane]

With you? DUDE!

I know you know me better than that.

 

[D-Dogg]

JAB-----I don't know where you have been hiding

The JAB hasn't been hiding, but the CROSS has been hiding behind the JAB.

 

[D-Dogg]

I know you know me better than that.

:head2head:

 

[Shane]

:head2head:

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