Someone might be interested in Trading up in the Draft. spoiler alert Dolphins

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Don't think you'd be alone..
apparently some are confusing that with I wouldn't root for the team. Obviously I simply just think it's a bad move and a bad GM decision.

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The Dolphins worked out Murray and him and his agent would not stick around unless the Dolphins gave them a reason that it's a possibility... this has nothing to do with trading Rosen, this is about Miami wanting to sell the farm for Murray :)
 

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I wonder if Oakland would drop from 4 to 13 for future Miami picks. Then Miami could trade 4 plus to us for 1.
 

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Umm. Really?

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OBJ, Brown, JuJu, Julio, Hill, AJ Green are the classification of dynamic receivers.

Amari Cooper, Keenan Allen, Brandon cooks are the classification of very good receivers.

You be the judge about Kirk's classification.

Cardinals need a dynamic receiver. There is not one on the team.
 

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OBJ, Brown, JuJu, Julio, Hill, AJ Green are the classification of dynamic receivers.

Amari Cooper, Keenan Allen, Brandon cooks are the classification of very good receivers.

You be the judge about Kirk's classification.

Cardinals need a dynamic receiver. There is not one on the team.

Attention, most WRs as a whole to be pros need a good three years of progressive improvement. Kirk being thrown in the fray early as being the main focus was doing great above the curve for most rookie WRs... you damn right he might be dynamic
 

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Ha ,Ha, would love to see murray in Cards uni light it up passing and running in game 1, followed by the chants on here of Keim deserving a raise.
 

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OBJ, Brown, JuJu, Julio, Hill, AJ Green are the classification of dynamic receivers.

Amari Cooper, Keenan Allen, Brandon cooks are the classification of very good receivers.

You be the judge about Kirk's classification.

Cardinals need a dynamic receiver. There is not one on the team.
You do realize that you are basing this in what you define dynamic wr to be and that will vary from person to person

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Kirk is going to be a beast slot guy who can play on the outside as well. I said it before he was drafted, and this past season showed no reason to move from that position.

I know the outside guys get all the attention, but in many offenses it's the slot that moves the ball down the field. It's the spark in many offenses. Having a very good slot receiver is a key to having a good offense.

Nowadays it behooves teams to have multiple good slot guys so they can run with two on a play and have redundancy to at least able to be effective with one in case of injury. The Rams offense definitely went down a notch when Kupp got injured.

Kirk is a piece of that puzzle. I definitely want another one, which is why I wanted Tate in free agency. We need an every down outside threat, but we also imo need another slot.

Every mock draft I've seen in the last couple of weeks seems to suggest that N'Keal Harry will be there at #33, so if we want him (or someone else) we should be able to get an outside threat.

As for Miami, they are clearly without a viable QB for now and need to do something. They could try to get a Bortles or Osweiler, but everything seems to point they need to draft or trade for one. In either case, we're a potential suitor for that. This is good IF we want to trade. It means NYG and Miami have varying needs for a QB, and Oakland might want Murray or Bosa. If we want to trade, I want a bidding war to break out.

Part of me thinks the Cardinals are going to be open (without saying so for posturing purposes) on Rosen and Murray until that first pick is selected on draft day. If we get an offer we can refuse to trade down, trade Rosen, or whatever, we just might take it. We might not, and will then select whoever we do.

One thing is for sure, if we don't want Murray, we've done an excellent job of convincing others he's a viable #1 to us given how many mocks have us selecting him now.
 

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Kirk is going to be a beast slot guy who can play on the outside as well. I said it before he was drafted, and this past season showed no reason to move from that position.

I know the outside guys get all the attention, but in many offenses it's the slot that moves the ball down the field. It's the spark in many offenses. Having a very good slot receiver is a key to having a good offense.

Nowadays it behooves teams to have multiple good slot guys so they can run with two on a play and have redundancy to at least able to be effective with one in case of injury. The Rams offense definitely went down a notch when Kupp got injured.

Kirk is a piece of that puzzle. I definitely want another one, which is why I wanted Tate in free agency. We need an every down outside threat, but we also imo need another slot.

Every mock draft I've seen in the last couple of weeks seems to suggest that N'Keal Harry will be there at #33, so if we want him (or someone else) we should be able to get an outside threat.

As for Miami, they are clearly without a viable QB for now and need to do something. They could try to get a Bortles or Osweiler, but everything seems to point they need to draft or trade for one. In either case, we're a potential suitor for that. This is good IF we want to trade. It means NYG and Miami have varying needs for a QB, and Oakland might want Murray or Bosa. If we want to trade, I want a bidding war to break out.

Part of me thinks the Cardinals are going to be open (without saying so for posturing purposes) on Rosen and Murray until that first pick is selected on draft day. If we get an offer we can refuse to trade down, trade Rosen, or whatever, we just might take it. We might not, and will then select whoever we do.

One thing is for sure, if we don't want Murray, we've done an excellent job of convincing others he's a viable #1 to us given how many mocks have us selecting him now.
Miami isn’t doing anything because they made it know that they’re tanking this season & aiming for Tua.
 

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You would have to think the dolphins have a plan here, and I would imagine that would be a trade. Rosen is no doubt a better prospect than any QB that would be available at 13 (with Haskins and Murray off the board). If you're the Cards and Murray is the pick, there's no longer a need for smoke screening, you have to take him #1, and at this point you're just looking for the best value for Rosen. I would be good with #13 and a 3rd as well.


Good grief. This would be awful.
 

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Ringing endorsement for my argument against 1st round guards. They have "done ok"

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Quentin Nelson was first team all pro as a rookie and Martin has been among the best in football since day 1. Those first round guard picks were total home runs, not just ok picks.


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Ringing endorsement for my argument against 1st round guards. They have "done ok"

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You serious? The Cardinals would be ecstatic to have Quentin Nelson. He's a dominant offensive lineman.
 

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Kirk is going to be a beast slot guy who can play on the outside as well. I said it before he was drafted, and this past season showed no reason to move from that position.

I know the outside guys get all the attention, but in many offenses it's the slot that moves the ball down the field. It's the spark in many offenses. Having a very good slot receiver is a key to having a good offense.

Nowadays it behooves teams to have multiple good slot guys so they can run with two on a play and have redundancy to at least able to be effective with one in case of injury. The Rams offense definitely went down a notch when Kupp got injured.

Kirk is a piece of that puzzle. I definitely want another one, which is why I wanted Tate in free agency. We need an every down outside threat, but we also imo need another slot.

Every mock draft I've seen in the last couple of weeks seems to suggest that N'Keal Harry will be there at #33, so if we want him (or someone else) we should be able to get an outside threat.

As for Miami, they are clearly without a viable QB for now and need to do something. They could try to get a Bortles or Osweiler, but everything seems to point they need to draft or trade for one. In either case, we're a potential suitor for that. This is good IF we want to trade. It means NYG and Miami have varying needs for a QB, and Oakland might want Murray or Bosa. If we want to trade, I want a bidding war to break out.

Part of me thinks the Cardinals are going to be open (without saying so for posturing purposes) on Rosen and Murray until that first pick is selected on draft day. If we get an offer we can refuse to trade down, trade Rosen, or whatever, we just might take it. We might not, and will then select whoever we do.

One thing is for sure, if we don't want Murray, we've done an excellent job of convincing others he's a viable #1 to us given how many mocks have us selecting him now.
I'm fixated on outside guys just because Fitz has played a lot of slot lately but if him and Kirk go in the slot, the outside doesn't have a damn thing yet

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You serious? The Cardinals would be ecstatic to have Quentin Nelson. He's a dominant offensive lineman.
Just was going off of "done ok"

I don't really follow other teams offensive lineman

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OBJ, Brown, JuJu, Julio, Hill, AJ Green are the classification of dynamic receivers.

Amari Cooper, Keenan Allen, Brandon cooks are the classification of very good receivers.

You be the judge about Kirk's classification.

Cardinals need a dynamic receiver. There is not one on the team.

And yet none of the dynamic receivers played in the Super Bowl...
 
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