Somers Reports That Leinart Is Still The Starter

[Chris_Sanders]

Watching and reading. My filter is different and I think I have a good handle on Whisenhunt's messages. And a lot of faith in his coaching ability.

There is no doubt in my mind that Warner will start in San Francisco.

If Matt Leinart starts, I fully support him because I trust Whisenhunt. Bring on the season.

No jocksniffing from me. This is the best and deepest team we have ever had here. 10-6 is well within reach, regardless of who starts at QB.

This echoes my sentiments.

 

[D-Dogg]

OK, before this one grows wings and Leinart is a malcontent that wants to be traded, when has he bitched and moaned?

When did that ever happen? As much credit as Warner gets (and he deserves it) for being a good teammate, Leinart has been just as good. Everything he's ever said to the media has been positive and humble. Bitching and moaning when he doesn't feel loved? That makes no sense at all.

Guys, he told Fez all that whiny crap in the hot tub, don't you remember?

Jeez!

 

[earthsci]

Watching and reading. My filter is different and I think I have a good handle on Whisenhunt's messages. And a lot of faith in his coaching ability.

There is no doubt in my mind that Warner will start in San Francisco.

If Matt Leinart starts, I fully support him because I trust Whisenhunt. Bring on the season.

No jocksniffing from me. This is the best and deepest team we have ever had here. 10-6 is well within reach, regardless of who starts at QB.

 

[Skkorpion]

Ease off on Mitch. He's a fan and passionate. I also think he's misreading this, as are many of you, but I said my piece above and will move on.

We are all particularly passionate about the QB position because it is so critical to success. I bear earthsci, clif, ct, Hogs and others no ill will for disagreeing with me.

 

[earthsci]

Ease off on Mitch. He's a fan and passionate. I also think he's misreading this, as are many of you, but I said my piece above and will move on.

We are all particularly passionate about the QB position because it is so critical to success. I bear earthsci, clif, ct, Hogs and others no ill will for disagreeing with me.

Well I certianly don't disagree with what you posted on this thread. In fact, it's exactly how I feel. Ask me for a name, I'll say Leinart. If Whiz says Warner, that's who I back. I'm a fan of the team, not any particular player.

 

[Cards_Campos]

Here is the problem....If Matt starts and loses a game that we should have or could have won....Whis loses all crediblity and you will have desension on the team. If Matt throws 3 int's in the first half of say the 49er game we lose 24-21....Then Matt is done for the year...because even then he will think he has failed. I don't see one positive out of this unless...Matt proves 95% of the pundits wrong and 50% of the fans wrong. Warner led us to 30+ points and threw 21 TD's in the last 8 games....How should he be benched??? Management is in on this...Whis says you can't lose your job to injury? Warner has twice and there are other numerous QB's in the league that have...Especially after the 5th week when the sub comes in and plays great with 1 friggin arm!

 

[Evil Ash]

Here is the problem....If Matt starts and loses a game that we should have or could have won....Whis loses all crediblity and you will have desension on the team. If Matt throws 3 int's in the first half of say the 49er game we lose 24-21....Then Matt is done for the year...because even then he will think he has failed. I don't see one positive out of this unless...Matt proves 95% of the pundits wrong and 50% of the fans wrong. Warner led us to 30+ points and threw 21 TD's in the last 8 games....How should he be benched??? Management is in on this...Whis says you can't lose your job to injury? Warner has twice and there are other numerous QB's in the league that have...Especially after the 5th week when the sub comes in and plays great with 1 friggin arm!

24 turnovers.

 

[TJ]

I think we should all be blessed we have this "mess" on our hands. Two QBs worthy of the starting role. The old monacher has been "if you have two QBs, you have no QBs" not the case here. Maybe in Chicago

If one gets hurt, the other comes in. We barely miss a beat, if at all.

 

[Mitch]

Ease off on Mitch. He's a fan and passionate. I also think he's misreading this, as are many of you, but I said my piece above and will move on.

We are all particularly passionate about the QB position because it is so critical to success. I bear earthsci, clif, ct, Hogs and others no ill will for disagreeing with me.

Skkorp: I want to drink some of your Merlot...or one of your 16 oz. Heinekins.

What worries me is these playoff berths come down to ONE game...

If Leinart starts and struggles and the Cards lose to the Niners, a team they lost to twice last year, that could be THE ONE GAME...especially with the Cardinals' schedule this year.

What also worries me is past history...coaches who have come in and had initial success as in an 8-8 record the first year, have not been able to build on that success, and have regressed.

I think this is a critical year for Whiz...if he wins...the Cards have truly turned the corner...if the team regresses, it's same ol' same ol'.

Plus, I can't stand double standards from any boss or employer. Rip into Branch about the light bulb and turn around and say the receivers were in the wrong spot for Leinart.

Other than that, I'm cool wid evry-ting.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Leinart looked terrible,no doubt about it. But don't you think people are over reacting abit to his bad game? The previous 2 games his rating was about 115. Young QB's have bad games. Whiz knows what he's doing. I'm sure he has a better grasp on the situation than Campos, Mitch, me, or any one of us on here. I said in other posts that this starter controversy is more nedia driven than anything else and what happens? Mort makes a statement and everyone treats it as gospel instead of listening to the guy in charge. Now, everyone on ESPN is asking if Leinart is a bust based on a scrimmage. It's pretty ridiculous if you ask me.

 

[Assface]

Here is the problem....If Matt starts and loses a game that we should have or could have won....Whis loses all crediblity and you will have desension on the team. If Matt throws 3 int's in the first half of say the 49er game we lose 24-21....Then Matt is done for the year...because even then he will think he has failed. I don't see one positive out of this unless...Matt proves 95% of the pundits wrong and 50% of the fans wrong. Warner led us to 30+ points and threw 21 TD's in the last 8 games....How should he be benched??? Management is in on this...Whis says you can't lose your job to injury? Warner has twice and there are other numerous QB's in the league that have...Especially after the 5th week when the sub comes in and plays great with 1 friggin arm!

What if Warner is the starter and has 3 turnovers? His personal record is 5 interceptions in 1 game. I think he also had 2 games with 4 picks and at least half a dozen with 3. In 2000 when Kurt was at his peak he had a game with 0 touchdowns and 4 interceptions for a 26 QB rating. If Kurt has one of those games again are you going to bury him too or make excuses?

 

[Cards_Campos]

Skkorp: I want to drink some of your Merlot...or one of your 16 oz. Heinekins.

What worries me is these playoff berths come down to ONE game...

If Leinart starts and struggles and the Cards lose to the Niners, a team they lost to twice last year, that could be THE ONE GAME...especially with the Cardinals' schedule this year.

What also worries me is past history...coaches who have come in and had initial success as in an 8-8 record the first year, have not been able to build on that success, and have regressed.

I think this is a critical year for Whiz...if he wins...the Cards have truly turned the corner...if the team regresses, it's same ol' same ol'.

Plus, I can't stand double standards from any boss or employer. Rip into Branch about the light bulb and turn around and say the receivers were in the wrong spot for Leinart.

Other than that, I'm cool wid evry-ting.

Mitch I have been a fan for 32 years and I agree with everything about your post. But obviously when it comes to posting here we seem to be the minority. Doesn't make 1 ounce of sense to me? If Kurt can win us 10 games...which it seems most believe he has a better chance of winning now.....why start Matt to win 7 games...to see if he might be the future??? We don't keep our team forever...IF that was the case..I would agree.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Skkorp: I want to drink some of your Merlot...or one of your 16 oz. Heinekins.

What worries me is these playoff berths come down to ONE game...

If Leinart starts and struggles and the Cards lose to the Niners, a team they lost to twice last year, that could be THE ONE GAME...especially with the Cardinals' schedule this year.

What also worries me is past history...coaches who have come in and had initial success as in an 8-8 record the first year, have not been able to build on that success, and have regressed.

I think this is a critical year for Whiz...if he wins...the Cards have truly turned the corner...if the team regresses, it's same ol' same ol'.

Plus, I can't stand double standards from any boss or employer. Rip into Branch about the light bulb and turn around and say the receivers were in the wrong spot for Leinart.

Other than that, I'm cool wid evry-ting.

What if Warner fumbles in the end zone to give the Niners the game? There's no way that could ever happen, could it?

 

[TJ]

Leinart looked terrible,no doubt about it. But don't you think people are over reacting abit to his bad game? The previous 2 games his rating was about 115. Young QB's have bad games. Whiz knows what he's doing. I'm sure he has a better grasp on the situation than Campos, Mitch, me, or any one of us on here. I said in other posts that this starter controversy is more nedia driven than anything else and what happens? Mort makes a statement and everyone treats it as gospel instead of listening to the guy in charge. Now, everyone on ESPN is asking if Leinart is a bust based on a scrimmage. It's pretty ridiculous if you ask me.

Yes indeed.

I both disagree with and respect the opinion that Warner should be the starter; however, the notion that Leinart is a bust is way off based and premature.

 

[Cards_Campos]

What if Warner is the starter and has 3 turnovers? His personal record is 5 interceptions in 1 game. I think he also had 2 games with 4 picks and at least half a dozen with 3. In 2000 when Kurt was at his peak he had a game with 0 touchdowns and 4 interceptions for a 26 QB rating. If Kurt has one of those games again are you going to bury him too or make excuses?

OMG...He has a SUPERBOWL ring...and 2 MVPS ...I believe if he does have a bad game...He can correct it...I havne't seen Matt correct anything....He played at USC with 15 all americans and rode the coat tails of 2 of the fastest guys in college. Kurt is a proven winner....So play him now....Never siad cut Matt...just don't throw away a season to find out!

 

[azsouthendzone]

I wonder if there has ever been a situation where a young QB has been dicked around this much by a coach and actually succeeded. The NYG got it right when they were faced with the same situation, the only difference is that as a rookie Leinart showed the potential that Eli did not. Whiz botched this. They should have traded Warner a year ago.

 

[azsouthendzone]

Based on the third preseason game, it is obvious that Edge is done and we need to start JJ Arrington.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Mitch I have been a fan for 32 years and I agree with everything about your post. But obviously when it comes to posting here we seem to be the minority. Doesn't make 1 ounce of sense to me? If Kurt can win us 10 games...which it seems most believe he has a better chance of winning now.....why start Matt to win 7 games...to see if he might be the future??? We don't keep our team forever...IF that was the case..I would agree.

just because you and Mitch think Warner wins 10 games,and Leinart wins 7,doesn't make it so. Maybe that's where you need to re-think things.

 

[Cards_Campos]

Kurt did have 7 turnovers in 2 crucial games last year and still threw 10 more td's then int's and still had a qb rating of almost 90!!! So I'll take a bad game here or there for 10 great ones.....Matt can have a bad quarter to a good quarter to a bad quarter....Listen..It has turned into bashing Matt and I don't want to....Matt might be our future...but he is getting 750,000 this year and we have him 2 more years....We have a team built on scoring 30+ points and with Warner in there...he makes defense atleast think quick bomb or pass first...which will open up the run game...No matter what you think...a team can t off on our offense because Whiz play Leinart more conservatively...He just does!

 

[Evil Ash]

I have the solution ... start St Pierre

 

[Cards_Campos]

just because you and Mitch think Warner wins 10 games,and Leinart wins 7,doesn't make it so. Maybe that's where you need to re-think things.

Well in the poll that is being conducted....almost 40% of you want Leinart to start BUT think Warner has a better chance of winning now...This is the WIN NOW league...it always has been....Look at Merriman from San Diego...They are thinking and so is he...of playing with 2 major Tears in his knee!!! What does that tell you...Some orginizations know...that your window is small...so you better jump threw it...not sit and windex it so you can see your playoffs go bye bye.

 

[TJ]

Notice how ESPN is not reporting this?? Come on Mort, realize that your sources" (or voices in your head) are derranged.

 

[Assface]

OMG...He has a SUPERBOWL ring...and 2 MVPS ...I believe if he does have a bad game...He can correct it...I havne't seen Matt correct anything....He played at USC with 15 all americans and rode the coat tails of 2 of the fastest guys in college. Kurt is a proven winner....So play him now....Never siad cut Matt...just don't throw away a season to find out!

I know about Bush but who was the other fastest guy in college? How many of those other guys have proved anything in the NFL? Factor in how good of a pro Carson Palmer is and I don't think it's accurate to say USC quarterbacks merely benefit from the system and surrounding talent.

Outside of the disaster at Oakland Matt hasn't been as bad as you make him out to be. I think Matt is capable of being a very good pro, just like Warner was. In his young career he's already had several very good games. I think it's laughable that you guys say we're guaranteed a losing season with him at the helm.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

If Matt Leinart starts, I fully support him because I trust Whisenhunt. Bring on the season.

No jocksniffing from me. This is the best and deepest team we have ever had here. 10-6 is well within reach, regardless of who starts at QB.

I am on Skkorp's bandwagon!

 

[Mitch]

Mitch I have been a fan for 32 years and I agree with everything about your post. But obviously when it comes to posting here we seem to be the minority. Doesn't make 1 ounce of sense to me? If Kurt can win us 10 games...which it seems most believe he has a better chance of winning now.....why start Matt to win 7 games...to see if he might be the future??? We don't keep our team forever...IF that was the case..I would agree.

What baffles me, Cards_Campos, is anyone who has watched the Cardinals last year and this, cannot possibly think that Leinart throws the ball better, nor has better chemistry with the recievers than Warner. There's no video that can even remotely justify that stance.

Even if Leinart didn't throw the three interceptions, he's a dink and dunk QB, with limited mobility and questionable arm strength and toughness.

It's too soon to call him a bust...I actually think he'd be a good fit in Chicago...but in this offense, he's bound to struggle.

Why Whiz has allowed this to fester and perpetuate is absolutely mind-boggling to me. Quite frankly, I've lost some respect for Whiz in how he's handled this...and it would be alright with me if he and Leinart went elsewhere and Russ Grimm took over.