Stanton... Concerning

[Mitch]

Stanton's struggles are very much compounded by the fact that he is playing with the 1st offense---the o-line, RBs and receivers.

 

[BigRedRage]

At least you can hope Barkley can improve. Stanton is getting worse. Being outplayed badly by opposing team backups this preseason.

I can't stand watching him to be honest.

BADly

I used to think we had one of the better backups in the league. The chargers back up is like 10X better than stanton so I guess we dont. His passes at least hit the receivers.

 

[Buckybird]

Stanton's struggles are very much compounded by the fact that he is playing with the 1st offense---the o-line, RBs and receivers.

Yep.

Mitch I wish I could understand what BA sees in him other than being a veteran with a good lockeroom presence. I just don't get it Even 2 years ago he didn't play all that well except for a few bombs he hit that won games for the team.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

Still stares down his WR's and over throws most of his balls. Easy pickings for first team CB's.

By now he should know this offense inside and should know where all his receivers are so he can go through his reads.

 

[b8rtm8nn]

I heard Logan Thomas is on the trade block after his game today:
2/4 for 17 yards and 2 interceptions

 

[Jasper]

BA's offense must be super complicated. If college graduates with years of nfl experience still can't grasp the offense within 3 seasons who can?

On top of that your QB has to be quick in reads and have an arm with accuracy.

I don't think we will ever find another franchise QB in BA's system. QBs like that are very rare in college, then unless the team has a very high draft pick like #1 or #2 they don't fall late 1st round.

 

[GatorAZ]

Honestly any 3 score lead with 7 or less min left remaining and CP needs to sit this year.

 

[bojack]

Stanton... don't get me started. At this point it starts to make me think he either has dirt on BA, or BA is just too stubborn to fold on a bad hand, or personal feelings are interfering with his ability to face reality. It's been clear for year now that Stanton was not the future, and frankly I don't even consider him to be a serviceable backup. A few may disagree with the latter, but you cannot disagree with the former, and when we have an aging QB that likely has only more season left after this you want the future at #2, even if it is prospect and not a lock.

Yes, we won some games when Carson was out with Stanton but that was despite Stanton, not because of Stanton. It is not hyperbole when I say I would rather see what Pat P could do under center before Stanton.

How we didn't sign a prospect QB this year, even a long shot, baffles me. At this point any long shot signing had a better chance at being the future, no matter how temporary, then Stanton. I get Stanton might be a great teammate and a good guy, but I think the risk of him being snatched off waivers would have been slim if he was on the PS, but instead we sign him with a insanely generous contract not commensurate with his performance. If you look at the QB contracts I can pick plenty I would rather have then him that are making less. More good money after bad.

I don't even know why they traded anything for Barkley.

And Carson, yea he's been showing flashes of Carson I always fear will show up any given game... the Carson that played flat in some games, terrible in big games and the one who misses a wide open Fitz for 10 yards to throw it 50 yards into triple coverage for a TO. It is only preseason so I can only hope the rust will come off and will have improved his mental game in the off season. If we want to be contenders Carson has to play solid this year... he doesn't have to play elite, just consistently decent. Part of that is to start always taking what the defense gives and stop forcing plays because you want to will them to work. It was clear watching All or Nothing that Carson was going off script trying to force plays even when he was warned not to do that exact thing that would result in a TO.

Personally I was hoping we would take Cardale Jones. No certainty he will make it as a starter anywhere, let alone a franchise QB (but even first rounders aren't either), but he has size and a cannon and in the 4th round where we could have got him I thought it would be a decent risk/reward to take a flier on a QB with the physical attributes and played outstanding against some of the toughest teams in CFB. As someone who closely follows OSU I can tell you his dropoff the following season had almost everything do with Tom Herman leaving to Houston, Tim Beck being a nitwit hire, and Urban letting these go on cruise control. That whole team was a mess the whole year despite being undefeated up until that MSU game. JT Barret went from a Heisman candidate to a shell of himself too that season when he was under center.

Not to digress, but I thought Jones would have made a great flier QB because it would not surprise me if it turned out he becomes a starter somewhere by the time Carson is retiring.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

It's just sad this franchise can never develop a QB.

 

[Mitch]

It's just sad this franchise can never develop a QB.

The last time the Cardinals drafted a QB in the 1st round it was Matt Leinart. There you have it. As much as I love Larry Fitzgerald, the Cardinals bypassed their best opportunity to draft a franchise QB in 2004.

 

[cardncubfan]

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/the-5-best-backup-qb-situations-in-the-nfl/ss-BBvORSO

 

[cardncubfan]

Stanton... don't get me started. At this point it starts to make me think he either has dirt on BA, or BA is just too stubborn to fold on a bad hand, or personal feelings are interfering with his ability to face reality. It's been clear for year now that Stanton was not the future, and frankly I don't even consider him to be a serviceable backup. A few may disagree with the latter, but you cannot disagree with the former, and when we have an aging QB that likely has only more season left after this you want the future at #2, even if it is prospect and not a lock.

Yes, we won some games when Carson was out with Stanton but that was despite Stanton, not because of Stanton. It is not hyperbole when I say I would rather see what Pat P could do under center before Stanton.

How we didn't sign a prospect QB this year, even a long shot, baffles me. At this point any long shot signing had a better chance at being the future, no matter how temporary, then Stanton. I get Stanton might be a great teammate and a good guy, but I think the risk of him being snatched off waivers would have been slim if he was on the PS, but instead we sign him with a insanely generous contract not commensurate with his performance. If you look at the QB contracts I can pick plenty I would rather have then him that are making less. More good money after bad.

I don't even know why they traded anything for Barkley.

And Carson, yea he's been showing flashes of Carson I always fear will show up any given game... the Carson that played flat in some games, terrible in big games and the one who misses a wide open Fitz for 10 yards to throw it 50 yards into triple coverage for a TO. It is only preseason so I can only hope the rust will come off and will have improved his mental game in the off season. If we want to be contenders Carson has to play solid this year... he doesn't have to play elite, just consistently decent. Part of that is to start always taking what the defense gives and stop forcing plays because you want to will them to work. It was clear watching All or Nothing that Carson was going off script trying to force plays even when he was warned not to do that exact thing that would result in a TO.

Personally I was hoping we would take Cardale Jones. No certainty he will make it as a starter anywhere, let alone a franchise QB (but even first rounders aren't either), but he has size and a cannon and in the 4th round where we could have got him I thought it would be a decent risk/reward to take a flier on a QB with the physical attributes and played outstanding against some of the toughest teams in CFB. As someone who closely follows OSU I can tell you his dropoff the following season had almost everything do with Tom Herman leaving to Houston, Tim Beck being a nitwit hire, and Urban letting these go on cruise control. That whole team was a mess the whole year despite being undefeated up until that MSU game. JT Barret went from a Heisman candidate to a shell of himself too that season when he was under center.

Not to digress, but I thought Jones would have made a great flier QB because it would not surprise me if it turned out he becomes a starter somewhere by the time Carson is retiring.

We did. Coker.

 

[Reddog]

I doubt Arians is even considering looking for another #2 QB.

It was only November of 2014 when Arians said "We can win the Super Bowl with Drew Stanton. There is no doubt in my mind."

Remember, Arians originally brought Stanton in as his starter.

He also said Levi Brown was elite.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Obviously, I am a huge Drew Stanton supporter.

That being said, he looks REALLY bad. When he is in the pocket he is not following through on his throws, and just spinning high.

 

[cardpa]

If Matt McGloin ever becomes a FA out of Oakland, I would certainly make a play for him as a backup. He did a nice job before they drafted Carr and had a lot less to work with.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Max Hall is available

Is he?

I thought he was in jail.

 

[BigRedRage]

Is he?

I thought he was in jail.

Work release

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[MadCardDisease]

I haven't been impressed with Stanton's play this preseason. However he has proven that he can get the job done in the past. That's enough for me. Anyone that thinks there is a better option out there for a #2 QB is living in a fantasy land.

 

[Bert]

Stanton is getting worse instead of better. Not impressed with Barkley either.

Time to bring in someone who can make decisions and at least throw a halfway accurate pass.

There has to be someone better out there??????

Unfortunately, and I just reminded myself of this as well, we all ask this question because we just have short memories.

It was not long ago that we were literally dressing up pizza drivers off the street and throwing them on the field. Look at teams without a "good" QB, the guys on their rosters are TERRIBLE! It's an Epidemic in the NFL. So while we watch Drew and think; There has to be someone better! The fact is, there probably isn't.

Forget about Stanton. The way I see it, if Palmer goes down we are screwed anyways. Unless the Defense plays at a top 3 level all season and the running game does the same, we need Carson or it's all for naught.

I like saying naught it makes me sound fancy.

QB's in the NFL are in such short supply that guys like Nick Foles and Sam Bradford are able to have leverage over teams that want them. THOSE GUYS SUCK!

When teams are overpaying guys who aren't good because good QB's are almost impossible to come by anymore, the days of having a "good" backup are long gone because anyone with any kind of talent gets overpaid.

 

[cardncubfan]

Unfortunately, and I just reminded myself of this as well, we all ask this question because we just have short memories.

It was not long ago that we were literally dressing up pizza drivers off the street and throwing them on the field. Look at teams without a "good" QB, the guys on their rosters are TERRIBLE! It's an Epidemic in the NFL. So while we watch Drew and think; There has to be someone better! The fact is, there probably isn't.

Forget about Stanton. The way I see it, if Palmer goes down we are screwed anyways. Unless the Defense plays at a top 3 level all season and the running game does the same, we need Carson or it's all for naught.

I like saying naught it makes me sound fancy.

QB's in the NFL are in such short supply that guys like Nick Foles and Sam Bradford are able to have leverage over teams that want them. THOSE GUYS SUCK!

When teams are overpaying guys who aren't good because good QB's are almost impossible to come by anymore, the days of having a "good" backup are long gone because anyone with any kind of talent gets overpaid.

Houston is a fine example of that.

 

[BigRedRage]

Unfortunately, and I just reminded myself of this as well, we all ask this question because we just have short memories.

It was not long ago that we were literally dressing up pizza drivers off the street and throwing them on the field. Look at teams without a "good" QB, the guys on their rosters are TERRIBLE! It's an Epidemic in the NFL. So while we watch Drew and think; There has to be someone better! The fact is, there probably isn't.

Forget about Stanton. The way I see it, if Palmer goes down we are screwed anyways. Unless the Defense plays at a top 3 level all season and the running game does the same, we need Carson or it's all for naught.

I like saying naught it makes me sound fancy.

QB's in the NFL are in such short supply that guys like Nick Foles and Sam Bradford are able to have leverage over teams that want them. THOSE GUYS SUCK!

When teams are overpaying guys who aren't good because good QB's are almost impossible to come by anymore, the days of having a "good" backup are long gone because anyone with any kind of talent gets overpaid.

I'll take the chargers backup over Stanton all day though!

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[Cardiac]

Unfortunately, and I just reminded myself of this as well, we all ask this question because we just have short memories.

It was not long ago that we were literally dressing up pizza drivers off the street and throwing them on the field. Look at teams without a "good" QB, the guys on their rosters are TERRIBLE! It's an Epidemic in the NFL. So while we watch Drew and think; There has to be someone better! The fact is, there probably isn't.

Forget about Stanton. The way I see it, if Palmer goes down we are screwed anyways. Unless the Defense plays at a top 3 level all season and the running game does the same, we need Carson or it's all for naught.

I like saying naught it makes me sound fancy.



QB's in the NFL are in such short supply that guys like Nick Foles and Sam Bradford are able to have leverage over teams that want them. THOSE GUYS SUCK!

When teams are overpaying guys who aren't good because good QB's are almost impossible to come by anymore, the days of having a "good" backup are long gone because anyone with any kind of talent gets overpaid.

Quality post.

 

[Shaggy]

I haven't been impressed with Stanton's play this preseason. However he has proven that he can get the job done in the past. That's enough for me. Anyone that thinks there is a better option out there for a #2 QB is living in a fantasy land.

"I support this message!"

 

[NJCardFan]

Unfortunately, and I just reminded myself of this as well, we all ask this question because we just have short memories.

It was not long ago that we were literally dressing up pizza drivers off the street and throwing them on the field. Look at teams without a "good" QB, the guys on their rosters are TERRIBLE! It's an Epidemic in the NFL. So while we watch Drew and think; There has to be someone better! The fact is, there probably isn't.

Forget about Stanton. The way I see it, if Palmer goes down we are screwed anyways. Unless the Defense plays at a top 3 level all season and the running game does the same, we need Carson or it's all for naught.

I like saying naught it makes me sound fancy.

QB's in the NFL are in such short supply that guys like Nick Foles and Sam Bradford are able to have leverage over teams that want them. THOSE GUYS SUCK!

When teams are overpaying guys who aren't good because good QB's are almost impossible to come by anymore, the days of having a "good" backup are long gone because anyone with any kind of talent gets overpaid.

Don't know how many teams wanted Bradford but there must have been for the Eagles to over pay to keep him which is odd considering they were mortgaging their next 3 drafts to get Wenz(who is now injured).

 

[Cardiac]

Don't know how many teams wanted Bradford but there must have been for the Eagles to over pay to keep him which is odd considering they were mortgaging their next 3 drafts to get Wenz(who is now injured).

It was strange how much they paid for Bradford, I got the feeling they were bidding against themselves but since it is a QB starved league there must have been other teams at least sniffing around.

They paid Bradford near the beginning of FA which was well before they made the trade to go from 13 to 8th in the first round and they didn't know they could get all the way up to the 2nd pick so to be safe they signed who they felt was the best QB available (Bradford).