Start Negotiations With Mike McCarthy Immediately

[BigRedRage]

With Rosens relationship with Arod, if we don't even sniff McCarthy, it tells you why.

 

[moklerman]

With Rosens relationship with Arod, if we don't even sniff McCarthy, it tells you why.

Hopefully Rosen just takes it with a grain of salt. I mean, ultimately the only complaint Rodgers has about MCCarthy is that they didn't win multiple championships. Other than that, Rodgers has had a great deal of personal success under McCarthy. I'm sure Rosen wouldn't mind having what Rodgers has had in that regard. Especially compared to what he's got now.

 

[Phrazbit]

Hopefully Rosen just takes it with a grain of salt. I mean, ultimately the only complaint Rodgers has about MCCarthy is that they didn't win multiple championships. Other than that, Rodgers has had a great deal of personal success under McCarthy. I'm sure Rosen wouldn't mind having what Rodgers has had in that regard. Especially compared to what he's got now.

I think Rodgers also would have enjoyed a head coach who brought something to the table. The Packers have, for years, ran an offense that seemed to be "pull something out of your butt Aaron!" Their offense is a bunch of vanilla mixed with Rodgers creating miracles from broken plays.

Take the best QB in the NFL away from McCarthy and I think you've got the guy who's won like 25% of his game Rodgers didn't play.

He might be better than Wilks but I firmly believe McCarthy will do nothing to elevate the available talent.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Let me see if I get this right. Aaron Rodgers became a great QB on his own without any help from McCarthy or coaching but when he starts struggling, it's McCarthy's fault.

Makes sense.

 

[PACardsFan]

We beat the Packers 38-8 with 9(I think?) sacks literally the next week after Tyrann went down.

Yes, you're correct that we crushed the Packers the following week. But don't forget, the Packers played that game without 3-4 starters on their offensive line. Rodgers had no shot, and was running for his life the whole day. The Packers even pulled him in the 4th quarter to avoid injury. When we played them 2 weeks later in the playoff, they had the starting Oline intact & it was an entirely different game. Bottom line, losing HB & Palmer's finger derailed that season completely.

 

[PACardsFan]

Let me see if I get this right. Aaron Rodgers became a great QB on his own without any help from McCarthy or coaching but when he starts struggling, it's McCarthy's fault.

Makes sense.

Yep, that's what we're to believe.

 

[gimpy]

Did anyone catch the Winston Moss interview on Fox? I walked into the middle from doing stuff, but did see he was doing a lot of eye rolling and winning and didn't really get what it was in relation to.

 

[PACardsFan]

I think Rodgers also would have enjoyed a head coach who brought something to the table. The Packers have, for years, ran an offense that seemed to be "pull something out of your butt Aaron!" Their offense is a bunch of vanilla mixed with Rodgers creating miracles from broken plays.

Take the best QB in the NFL away from McCarthy and I think you've got the guy who's won like 25% of his game Rodgers didn't play.

He might be better than Wilks but I firmly believe McCarthy will do nothing to elevate the available talent.

Are you really going to put Wilks & McCarthy's name in the same sentence????? Do you understand that McCarthy was a HC for 13 years in the NFL. Just to secure the Packer job, his resume was phenomenal. ANY team that had a QB as talented as Rodgers would lean heavily on him, and thus, struggle mightily without him. Look at any HOF QB. When they were injured, their teams struggled to win.

 

[GatorAZ]

Let me see if I get this right. Aaron Rodgers became a great QB on his own without any help from McCarthy or coaching but when he starts struggling, it's McCarthy's fault.

Makes sense.

Coaches are the scapegoat in any sport. As good as Rodgers is he seems like a poor leader. Ex-players have questioned his leadership and he has the worst body languagep since Jay Cutler. It was time for a split.

Packers players did show him respect on the way out.

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[Southpaw]

It would be the predictable move. Teams often go from one extreme to the other. A defensive guy with no experience to an offensive guy with a lot. Were Wilks fired and I had to bet on our next head coach, I'd bet on Mike McCarthy... big time.

I also think McCarthy is a putrid coach who's name is only notable because he spent much of the last decade pissing away the brilliance of maybe the best QB in league history. If not for Rodgers pulling miracles out of broken plays McCarthy would have been fired years ago.

I don't know where he ends up, but I would be big that McCarthy has coached his last winning season.

That is nice of him.

I don't think he'll have as many cherished memories to choose from after he goes 6-26 with his next franchise.

and there is a street near Lambeau named for Mike. Some things happen too soon?

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[Phrazbit]

Are you really going to put Wilks & McCarthy's name in same sentence????? Do you understand that McCarthy was a HC for 13 years in the NFL. Just to secure the Packer job, his resume was phenomenal. ANY team that had a QB as talented as Rodgers would lean heavily on him, and thus, struggle mightily without him. Look at any HOF QB. When they were injured, their teams struggled to win.

They'll especially struggle when the improvisational genius of the QB is responsible for like 80% of their success.

The Pats went 11-5 without Brady, the Steelers have survived spells without Ben on several occasions. The Colts DID fall apart without Manning... but, just like with the Packers, Manning was their entire system.

Rodgers is possibly the best player of his generation and the Packers have had far less success than other teams with a comparably brilliant QB. McCarthy brings nothing to the table.

 

[sunsfan88]

Are you really going to put Wilks & McCarthy's name in same sentence????? Do you understand that McCarthy was a HC for 13 years in the NFL. Just to secure the Packer job, his resume was phenomenal. ANY team that had a QB as talented as Rodgers would lean heavily on him, and thus, struggle mightily without him. Look at any HOF QB. When they were injured, their teams struggled to win.

Yeah by his account, Peyton Manning’s team having the worst record in the league when Manning was injured makes it the fault of whoever the Colts coach was at the time. The Pats having success that one season without Brady is about the only exception to this and even then, the Pats missed the playoffs without Tom Brady.

Rodgers is a great QB but he’s also a diva. He’s called out his own players countless times when it was inappropriate to do so. He’s also an extremely ego centric person and that shows in his personal life as he’s cut off his entire family from him and rumors are that most of his family hates him. Even his relationship with Favre was pretty rocky by all reports.

McCarthy is part of the blame for what’s wrong with the Packers but so is Rodgers. To absolve Rodgers of any wrong doing would be idiotic.

 

[TheCardFan]

MCarthy seems like Andy Reid/Philly 2.0 but with a Lombardi trophy.

 

[Cheesebeef]

MCarthy seems like Andy Reid/Philly 2.0 but with a Lombardi trophy.

not sure I agree with this. Andy Reid was able to be VERY successful with just an above average QB and even had success with other QBs who weren't McNabb. There were times McNabb would go down, or even before they had Donovan, where Reid coached the Eagles into the playoffs with Detmer as his QB. Every time Rodgers has been out, that GB team has pretty much gone to complete and utter crap.

 

[moklerman]

not sure I agree with this. Andy Reid was able to be VERY successful with just an above average QB and even had success with other QBs who weren't McNabb. There were times McNabb would go down, or even before they had Donovan, where Reid coached the Eagles into the playoffs with Detmer as his QB. Every time Rodgers has been out, that GB team has pretty much gone to complete and utter crap.

Without knowing how responsible McCarthy was for the backup QB's it's hard to say. One would assume he had a hand in picking Rodgers' backups but I don't know for sure either way. As many stories about Rodgers that are coming out is it that hard to believe that he didn't want any competition on the roster? Have the Packers ever taken a QB in the first round that would one day be Rodgers' replacement?

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

Okay @Southpaw , I forgot to post about my funny McCarthy story.

About 18 months ago, I was in a bank in So-Cal and Mike McCarthy walks in and waits in the teller line. The fun starts when he gets to the teller window:

Teller: May I see your I.D?

MM (trying to make a withdrawal, pats pockets): I forgot my wallet.

Teller: I'm sorry, but I am required to ask for I.D.

MM: I am Mike McCarthy, you don't recognize me?

Teller: I am sorry, sir. Are there any employees here who know you?

MM: No, I am Mike McCarthy...I coach the Green Bay Packers.

Teller: I am sorry, sir, I don't know who they are.

MM: Let me speak to your supervisor.

Teller: Okay, please move to the next window.

Supervisor: How may I help you, sir?

MM: I want to withdrawal XX dollars, I have an account here and they aren't allowing me.

Supervisor: If you have your ID, I am happy to help.

MM: I don't have my ID, I am Mike McCarthy of the Green Bay Packers, the football team.

Supervisor: I am sorry, sir I don't follow sports.

MM (clearly getting mad and red in the face): I want to talk to the Manager!!

Supervisor: The manager is finishing up with another client, if you would like to wait in the lobby, she will be with you in a moment.

After sitting in the seat for about 30-45 seconds, the manager arrives.

Manager: Hello, sir, my name is XX and I am the manager...what may I help you with today...Would you like to come to my office?

MM (refuses to go to the office): I am just trying to withdraw XX from my account, I don't have my wallet, but I've been with this bank a long time.

Manager: Thank you for banking with us, and we hope to accommodate you, but--for your protection--we are required to Identify you. Do you know any of the bankers here?

MM: I am Mike McCarthy, Head Coach of the Green Bay Packers...

Manager: Is that a baseball team?

Mike McCarthy abruptly storms out of the bank (end scene).

 

[sunsfan88]

not sure I agree with this. Andy Reid was able to be VERY successful with just an above average QB and even had success with other QBs who weren't McNabb. There were times McNabb would go down, or even before they had Donovan, where Reid coached the Eagles into the playoffs with Detmer as his QB. Every time Rodgers has been out, that GB team has pretty much gone to complete and utter crap.

You know that none of Aaron Rodges back up QBs are even in the league anymore right? That’s how god awful they are. Matt freakin Flynn was his backup for a long time and he threw for THREE TDs and barely lost to Bellichek’s Patriots by 4 pts in his first ever start then threw for SIX TDs in his second ever start. He played damn well in Mike McCarthy’s system before flaming out as a scrub bouncing around the league afterwards.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Hiring McCarthy would be Denny Green 2.0, minus Denny Green's ability to actually pick good players as a GM.

 

[wa52lz]

not sure I agree with this. Andy Reid was able to be VERY successful with just an above average QB and even had success with other QBs who weren't McNabb. There were times McNabb would go down, or even before they had Donovan, where Reid coached the Eagles into the playoffs with Detmer as his QB. Every time Rodgers has been out, that GB team has pretty much gone to complete and utter crap.

Ray Rhodes was HC when they made the playoffs with Detmer. Reid made it to the playoffs 2x without McNabb, 2006 when McNabb went down in game 10 and Jeff Garcia took over and 2010 with Vick, who was the season starter. The only other season that McNabb started less then 14 games was 2005 and Phily missed the playoffs. Rogers has missed significant time in 2007, weeks 10-16 and GB went 2-4-1 with Seneca Wallace, Scott Tolzien and Matt Ryan starting games. GB finished 8-7-1 and in the playoffs Rogers came back in Week 17. The other time Rogers missed more then one start was last year and McCarthy had Brett Hundley at QB. Reid definitely had better QBs when he didn't have McNabb then McCarthy did w/o Rogers.

 

[Phrazbit]

McCarthy is part of the blame for what’s wrong with the Packers but so is Rodgers. To absolve Rodgers of any wrong doing would be idiotic.

lol...

The only thing Rodgers has done "wrong" is be so good at this craft that it has held aloft a bad coaching staff and iffy talent for years.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Ray Rhodes was HC when they made the playoffs with Detmer. Reid made it to the playoffs 2x without McNabb, 2006 when McNabb went down in game 10 and Jeff Garcia took over and 2010 with Vick, who was the season starter. The only other season that McNabb started less then 14 games was 2005 and Phily missed the playoffs. Rogers has missed significant time in 2007, weeks 10-16 and GB went 2-4-1 with Seneca Wallace, Scott Tolzien and Matt Ryan starting games. GB finished 8-7-1 and in the playoffs Rogers came back in Week 17. The other time Rogers missed more then one start was last year and McCarthy had Brett Hundley at QB. Reid definitely had better QBs when he didn't have McNabb then McCarthy did w/o Rogers.

ah. my bad on Detmer. Still, he got to the playoffs twice without McNabb and that was with a washed up Garcia and turned Vick into a one year MVP candidate who never went on to do jack squat again. He may have had better QBs, but he's proven he can win with literally everyone and given the chance, elevated formerly washed up QBs into guys who took their teams to the playoffs.

 

[Town Drunk]

FYI, Peter King reported this morning that there is “mutual interest” between McCarthy and the Cards.

 

[az jam]

How about McCarthy as HC and Bowles as DC.

 

[football karma]

my concerns with Mike McCarthy:

1. I think the institutional knowledge / support within the Green Bay org cant be taken for granted. They have a long time history of very good personnel guys --Ron Wolf, etc. McCarthy wont have that here

2. I always felt GBs defenses have underperformed relative to the personnel they have had -- and that more than offense is why they dont have the Championships you would expect

 

[DVontel]

Please, Jets, beat us to him.