Start Negotiations With Mike McCarthy Immediately

[PACardsFan]

We bounced them out of the playoffs in two of those nine years.

Let's not forget how fortunate we were that Rodgers CHOKED in the 51-45 game. In OT, he overthrew a wide open receiver that was 15 yards ahead of everyone. He then fumbled away the game to us. In the 26-20 game under BA, Rodgers barely completed 50% of his passes & had a 100 yard interception return called back because of a bs call against Frostee Rucker. Too many believe that McCarthy was the reason Rodgers didn't win more SB's. I believe it was the opposite.

 

[DVontel]

Let's not forget how fortunate we were that Rodgers CHOKED in the 51-45 game. In OT, he overthrew a wide open receiver that was 15 yards ahead of everyone. He then fumbled away the game to us. In the 26-20 game under BA, Rodgers barely completed 50% of his passes & had a 100 yard interception return called back because of a bs call against Frostee Rucker. Too many believe that McCarthy was the reason Rodgers didn't win more SB's. I believe it was the opposite.

Ah, the game where he went 28/42, 423 yards, 4/1 TD/INT ratio, with a rushing TD in his 1st playoff start where his defense couldn’t stop crap. Then, only fumbling the game to us due to a missed facemask on Dansby.

And that 2015 game where he was basically throwing to Wal-Mart employees & STILL managed to take a 13-3 team into OT with hellacious clutch drive, only to not get the ball back in OT.

Only playoff game I kind of put the blame on Rodgers is that playoff loss against Giants where he was missing throws more than he should, & even then, the Packers were the worst ranked defense that year.

Imagine thinking a Hall of Fame QB & a consensus top 5 QB is the reason Mike McCarthy didn’t win more SBs. Imagine.

 

[DVontel]

Nick Collins retiring due to a career-ending injury was the worst thing to happen to Aaron Rodgers’ career.

 

[PACardsFan]

Ah, the game where he went 28/42, 423 yards, 4/1 TD/INT ratio, with a rushing TD in his 1st playoff start where his defense couldn’t stop crap. Then, only fumbling the game to us due to a missed facemask on Dansby.

And that 2015 game where he was basically throwing to Wal-Mart employees & STILL managed to take a 13-3 team into OT with hellacious clutch drive, only to not get the ball back in OT.

Only playoff game I kind of put the blame on Rodgers is that playoff loss against Giants where he was missing throws more than he should, & even then, the Packers were the worst ranked defense that year.

Imagine thinking a Hall of Fame QB & a consensus top 5 QB is the reason Mike McCarthy didn’t win more SBs. Imagine.

You're forgetting that the 09 playoff game, Rodgers had big numbers against a defense that couldn't stop crap either. He had wide open receivers all day & NO ONE bothered to cover his TE at all. 200 of those yards went to a very average TE, who stayed in the NFL primarily due to that one game. We carried that crap defense into the next game against New Orleans & got throttled. The point was that he CHOKED when the game was on the line & into OT. How he overthrew that receiver is mind boggling & true Packers fans have never forgotten that play. Shortly thereafter, he fumbled the game away.

In 2015, are you referring to our 13-3 team that was a shell of itself by that time. Honey Badger went down & Palmer's finger was never the same. Palmer was picked a couple of times in the endzone & Packers dropped another 2-3 sure interceptions in that game. Even the winning touchdown was lucky when his pass got deflected & somehow ended up in #15's hands (I can't even type his name). Palmer then was picked like 5 times in the NFC Championship game when we were completely embarrassed in front of the entire nation. The Cardinals haven't been the same team since. Is that the 13-3 team you're referring to??

 

[DVontel]

You're forgetting that the 09 playoff game, Rodgers had big numbers against a defense that couldn't stop crap either. He had wide open receivers all day & NO ONE bothered to cover his TE at all. 200 of those yards went to a very average TE, who stayed in the NFL primarily due to that one game. We carried that crap defense into the next game against New Orleans & got throttled. The point was that he CHOKED when the game was on the line & into OT. How he overthrew that receiver is mind boggling & true Packers fans have never forgotten that play. Shortly thereafter, he fumbled the game away.

In 2015, are you referring to our 13-3 team that was a shell of itself by that time. Honey Badger went down & Palmer's finger was never the same. Palmer was picked a couple of times in the endzone & Packers dropped another 2-3 sure interceptions in that game. Even the winning touchdown was lucky when his pass got deflected & somehow ended up in #15's hands (I can't even type his name). Palmer then was picked like 5 times in the NFC Championship game when we were completely embarrassed in front of the entire nation. The Cardinals haven't been the same team since. Is that the 13-3 team you're referring to??

What are “true” Packer fans? Packer fans that agree with only your narratives?

It don’t matter how bad the D looked. It was a QB making his first ever playoff start & went toe-to-toe with Kurt Warner. That’s incredible no matter how much you slice it. Rodgers only “choked” the game away due to an obvious missed facemask call & wouldn't have been in that predicament anyway if his D couldn’t stop a stopsign.

That 2015 Packers team was a shell of its former self that whole season as soon as Jordy Nelson went down for the year. So what?

 

[PACardsFan]

What are “true” Packer fans? Packer fans that agree with only your narratives?

It don’t matter how bad the D looked. It was a QB making his first ever playoff start & went toe-to-toe with Kurt Warner. That’s incredible no matter how much you slice it. Rodgers only “choked” the game away due to an obvious missed facemask call & wouldn't have been in that predicament anyway if his D couldn’t stop a stopsign.

That 2015 Packers team was a shell of its former self that whole season as soon as Jordy Nelson went down for the year. So what?

That Packer D that Warner shredded was ranked #2 in the entire NFL that year. The true sieve D was the one dressed in red. Rodgers missed the wide open receiver long before the missed facemask call. No narratives, just the facts.

 

[PACardsFan]

What are “true” Packer fans? Packer fans that agree with only your narratives?

It don’t matter how bad the D looked. It was a QB making his first ever playoff start & went toe-to-toe with Kurt Warner. That’s incredible no matter how much you slice it. Rodgers only “choked” the game away due to an obvious missed facemask call & wouldn't have been in that predicament anyway if his D couldn’t stop a stopsign.

That 2015 Packers team was a shell of its former self that whole season as soon as Jordy Nelson went down for the year. So what?

Btw, I do have family, friends, and business associated in GB area. True in the sense that they are not bandwagon fans. My experience with these fans are that they're extremely knowledgeable, and honest about the team's shortcomings. Most would tell you that although Farve was an a$$ also, he was the better QB, mainly because he was a significantly better leader.

 

[DVontel]

Btw, I do have family, friends, and business associated in GB area. True in the sense that they are not bandwagon fans. My experience with these fans are that they're extremely knowledgeable, and honest about the team's shortcomings. Most would tell you that although Farve was an a$$ also, he was the better QB, mainly because he was a significantly better leader.

Favre can be the better “leader” all he want to, that doesn’t determine your physical ability & production on the field. Randy Moss & T.O. weren’t classified as leaders, but both are known as top 3 WRs of all time. There’s not a thing Favre did better than Rodgers outside of throwing INTs in crucial playoff moments.

It’s really sad how McCarthy has Favre(albeit not long) & Rodgers & only managed to get 1 ring out of it. The failure to adapt like Andy Reid will forever be his shortcoming.

 

[PACardsFan]

Kudos to Andy Reid, but he hasn’t won a SB. Furthermore, the book isn’t closed on McCarthy either. Let’s see where he goes & how he does before blaming him for whatever Favre & Rodgers did or didn’t accomplish. Time will tell.

 

[jmt]

I didn’t want McCarthy at first but warming up. I just want Wilks (and Keim) gone.

 

[Southpaw]

Btw, I do have family, friends, and business associated in GB area. True in the sense that they are not bandwagon fans. My experience with these fans are that they're extremely knowledgeable, and honest about the team's shortcomings. Most would tell you that although Farve was an a$$ also, he was the better QB, mainly because he was a significantly better leader.

I call BS with Favre being the better leader. He had a small cadre clique of his boys on that team that intimidated anyone not part of it, including Rodgers.

In my opinion if the Browns hire M MC, this will only add to their woeful legacy. Of course he would be an improvement over Hue jackson. That is a low bar to surpass. Baker Mayfield is a gem and if M Mc brings his 25 year old offense to town that could be a wasted opportunity. M Mc will bring his buddy system assistants along and Joe Philbin/Winston Moss et al are disasters.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Some say BA had an old fashioned offense. I sure would like him to bring his 25 year old offense back to Arizona.

My take on GB. Rodgers got his money, decided he wanted things done his way, and wasn't going to listen to McCarthy anymore. I don't think it's a coincidence they are struggling they season after AR got paid.

 

[DVontel]

Hopefully the Jets hire McCarthy after firing Bowles before we get a chance too(if Wilks is fried).

 

[Son of RedRage]

Yeah those 10 win seasons for 12 straight years are really boring.

Take away A-Rodge and he's nothing. His previous lack of a run game and mediocre defenses are indicative of a bad coach.

 

[AZCrazy]

Are you going to build a ball control, ground based offense when your QB is Aaron Rodgers?

Every coach looks like a fool unless he has a good quarterback. You think Belichick is a genius? He was a failure until he met Tom B.

McCarthy has been a success as long as he's had a good qb, and I don't understand the rush to can him after one bad season. Other mediocre years were based on Rodgers being out injured when that's happened. You gonna win a lot of playoff games with Brett Hundley under center?

 

[WisconsinCard]

Let's not forget how fortunate we were that Rodgers CHOKED in the 51-45 game. In OT, he overthrew a wide open receiver that was 15 yards ahead of everyone. He then fumbled away the game to us. In the 26-20 game under BA, Rodgers barely completed 50% of his passes & had a 100 yard interception return called back because of a bs call against Frostee Rucker. Too many believe that McCarthy was the reason Rodgers didn't win more SB's. I believe it was the opposite.

Let's not forget how fortunate they were to get to Overtime, when Rackers missed a 34 yard chip shot FG. It is what is it is. As far as the second game goes on our defense was a top 5 D all year. Let's give the card some credit for his poor performance.

 

[WisconsinCard]

Ah, the game where he went 28/42, 423 yards, 4/1 TD/INT ratio, with a rushing TD in his 1st playoff start where his defense couldn’t stop crap. Then, only fumbling the game to us due to a missed facemask on Dansby.

And that 2015 game where he was basically throwing to Wal-Mart employees & STILL managed to take a 13-3 team into OT with hellacious clutch drive, only to not get the ball back in OT.

Only playoff game I kind of put the blame on Rodgers is that playoff loss against Giants where he was missing throws more than he should, & even then, the Packers were the worst ranked defense that year.

Imagine thinking a Hall of Fame QB & a consensus top 5 QB is the reason Mike McCarthy didn’t win more SBs. Imagine.

This is so not true. First off it wasn't Dansby it was Money Mike, and secondly that is the year they changed the rule stating that you had to "grasp" the face mask, which he did not. The ball was clearly fumbled before Money Mike touched his face mask.

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[PACardsFan]

Let's not forget how fortunate they were to get to Overtime, when Rackers missed a 34 yard chip shot FG. It is what is it is. As far as the second game goes on our defense was a top 5 D all year. Let's give the card some credit for his poor performance.

The Honey Badger was the lifeblood of that top 5 D. When he went down in Philly, that top 5 D instantly went to the middle of the pack. Didn't Carolina put up roughly 50 in the NFC Championship game the very next week? And true, the only reason why Rodgers wasn't the biggest choker on the field is because Rackers was there too.

 

[DVontel]

The Honey Badger was the lifeblood of that top 5 D. When he went down in Philly, that top 5 D instantly went to the middle of the pack. Didn't Carolina put up roughly 50 in the NFC Championship game the very next week? And true, the only reason why Rodgers wasn't the biggest choker on the field is because Rackers was there too.

We beat the Packers 38-8 with 9(I think?) sacks literally the next week after Tyrann went down.

 

[NJCardFan]

We beat the Packers 38-8 with 9(I think?) sacks literally the next week after Tyrann went down.

And the loss of HB, while spiritually devastating, had more to do with Palmer's bum finger than missing HB. Palmer crapped the bed in that game. Even though we fell behind 17-0 then 24-7, we had a chance to cut into the lead at the end of the half and gain some momentum when Palmer fumbled but we got it back when PP made an INT and took it to the Carolina 6, Palmer immediately threw an interception killing the drive and any momentum we might have gotten. If we had scored and made it 24-14, going into the locker room down 10 is a hell of a lot better than being down 17 with a debilitating INT. The game just steamrolled after that.

 

[Ronin]

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[Phrazbit]

It would be the predictable move. Teams often go from one extreme to the other. A defensive guy with no experience to an offensive guy with a lot. Were Wilks fired and I had to bet on our next head coach, I'd bet on Mike McCarthy... big time.

I also think McCarthy is a putrid coach who's name is only notable because he spent much of the last decade pissing away the brilliance of maybe the best QB in league history. If not for Rodgers pulling miracles out of broken plays McCarthy would have been fired years ago.

I don't know where he ends up, but I would be big that McCarthy has coached his last winning season.

 

[Phrazbit]

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That is nice of him.

I don't think he'll have as many cherished memories to choose from after he goes 6-26 with his next franchise.

 

[az jam]

It sure helps a coach to have a franchise qb in the lineup. Is it the coach that has made the qb or the qb that has made the coach? That could be a very lengthy debate.

 

[GatorAZ]

It sure helps a coach to have a franchise qb in the lineup. Is it the coach that has made the qb or the qb that has made the coach? That could be a very lengthy debate.

The Saints had some good offensive success when McCarthy was OC. Those were the Aaron Brooks/Ricky Williams-led teams that finished top-10 in scoring offense twice and made the playoffs. I don’t think he gets enough credit in Rodgers development early on but eventually they grew apart.