Starting to warm to Simmons, but ...

[Dan H]

https://wholeninesports.com/2019/10/05/isaiah-simmons-scouting-report/

This scouting reports compares him more to Deone Buchanan than Keuchly.

Thoughts?

 

[TheCardFan]

My thoughts are this post should probably be under 1 of the other threads on the topic.

Take your pick:

https://www.arizonasportsfans.com/forum/threads/simmons.335068/

https://www.arizonasportsfans.com/forum/threads/with-the-8th-pick-in-the-nfl-draft.334935/

 

[Finito]

He came in as a safety but his body is growing the kid is huge. I didn’t know he was 6’4/6’5

 

[slanidrac16]

https://wholeninesports.com/2019/10/05/isaiah-simmons-scouting-report/

This scouting reports compares him more to Deone Buchanan than Keuchly.

Thoughts?

I love this guy. Smart . Fast . Can tackle. Versatile. Can go from sideline to sideline. Reminds me of Washington. Seeing him inside next to Hicks excites me.

the problem with Buchanon was he was a safety who was moved to linebacker. Simmons has done both so putting him in this defense as a ILB would be a huge upgrade.

 

[football karma]

on Buc -- at 6'0", i think his natural size was probably 205lbs or so

bulked up to 220 to play LB, and in doing so seemed like he lost his flexibility / movement skills --

Simmons is a natural 230 lbs, and as he matures with a 6-3 frame -- playing at 240 doesnt seem like a stretch

 

[juza76]

on Buc -- at 6'0", i think his natural size was probably 205lbs or so

bulked up to 220 to play LB, and in doing so seemed like he lost his flexibility / movement skills --

Simmons is a natural 230 lbs, and as he matures with a 6-3 frame -- playing at 240 doesnt seem like a stretch

Simmons has nothing to do with Bucannon, he is way bigger and playing much faster, he is a better tackler and can cover also widereceivers

 

[WildBB]

on Buc -- at 6'0", i think his natural size was probably 205lbs or so

bulked up to 220 to play LB, and in doing so seemed like he lost his flexibility / movement skills --

Simmons is a natural 230 lbs, and as he matures with a 6-3 frame -- playing at 240 doesnt seem like a stretch

You'd have to strongly consider his skill set for this D. Particularly with the TE's in the division and just for his overall coverage skills. Not sure about his tackling in close range. Clemson had him in the secondary most of the game vs. OSU.

 

[slanidrac16]

Simmons has nothing to do with Bucannon, he is way bigger and playing much faster, he is a better tackler and can cover also widereceivers

His versatility would allow the Cards to move him around in certain situations. He could even move to the outside and blitz. I want this kid. Hope he doesn’t sparkle too much in the championship game.

 

[GatorAZ]

Bucannon was a stiff especially later in his tenure here. He was top heavy and dealt with lower body injuries.

Simmons is listed at 230 but that seems a little high. If it’s his true weight he wears it really well. You wonder what he could look like in 2-3 years when he hits his prime... Scary.

 

[Shane]

So flipping awesome

 

[FB94]

Really going to watch Simmons Monday night

 

[Solar7]

Remember, Deone Bucannon was a relatively iconic player for a while, as the $backer revolutionizing the NFL. I think a lot of people don't realize he fell off pretty hard, and it's still a hip name for a versatile ILB/Safety, even though others did it better.

I would imagine the author thought of this as a big compliment, not a diss.

 

[Finito]

On the ESPN championship preview they just said 6’4 230

McShay is just gushing over him.

 

[Matt L]

Sounds more like Dansby than Buchannon

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

Sounds more like Dansby than Buchannon

I think the Buchannon comparison is more about the versatility that he has. Simmons is likely to be better at most things that Deone was, but he should bring a similar type of versatility.

 

[Matt L]

I think the Buchannon comparison is more about the versatility that he has. Simmons is likely to be better at most things that Deone was, but he should bring a similar type of versatility.

I honestly think Dansby was a safety as a freshman at Auburn but moved to linebacker as he matured and got bigger.

 

[GatorAZ]

Imagine if Los had greater athletic gifts...

 

[Buckybird]

If you want a combo of Los & Dwash without the weed, Simmons is the guy!!! He’s a heat seeking missle who can cover almost anyone. Imo he will get better the more he plays LB.

I still say if he’s at #5 or 6 don’t be surprised to see Keim trade up & nab him.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

If you want a combo of Los & Dwash without the weed, Simmons is the guy!!! He’s a heat seeking missle who can cover almost anyone. Imo he will get better the more he plays LB.

I still say if he’s at #5 or 6 don’t be surprised to see Keim trade up & nab him.

There will be too much talent available at 8 to trade up IMO. He will likely be there at 8 and if he isn't than there will be another very good talent there.

 

[BritCard]

I think he's more of a safety right now than a linebacker. Box safety is the perfect role for him. It doesn't matter what name you put on him, he's essentially going to be in a similar position to OLB in a 4-3 when we are in a 3 man front. Down close to the LOS with the linebackers looking watching the run and looking for TE's leaking out, and when we go to nickel he will be in a similar position but obviously focused more on coverage.

He's not a Mike backer. He's never going to be. I don't see him drafted to take over from Reddick. The FA linebacker class is good this year so they almost certainly fill that from FA. It wouldn't rule out us drafting Simmons though as that $ backer safety / linebacker hybrid.

Unfortunately what does rule it out is that we drafted 2 safeties last year and they seem to like Jalen Thompson as box safety. Would be very surprised to see us draft him.

 

[juza76]

I think he's more of a safety right now than a linebacker. Box safety is the perfect role for him. It doesn't matter what name you put on him, he's essentially going to be in a similar position to OLB in a 4-3 when we are in a 3 man front. Down close to the LOS with the linebackers looking watching the run and looking for TE's leaking out, and when we go to nickel he will be in a similar position but obviously focused more on coverage.

He's not a Mike backer. He's never going to be. I don't see him drafted to take over from Reddick. The FA linebacker class is good this year so they almost certainly fill that from FA. It wouldn't rule out us drafting Simmons though as that $ backer safety / linebacker hybrid.

Unfortunately what does rule it out is that we drafted 2 safeties last year and they seem to like Jalen Thompson as box safety. Would be very surprised to see us draft him.

They can like whoever they want but our guys couldn't cover anyone in the middle
So a talented all around lb is a need there

 

[Garthshort]

I like Simmons. But I did read that Vance Joseph wants an ILB, who PLAYED LB in college. Was he just blowing smoke?

 

[slanidrac16]

I honestly think Dansby was a safety as a freshman at Auburn but moved to linebacker as he matured and got bigger.

So was Urlacher.

 

[football karma]

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[dscher]

Can he cover a tight end?