Steve Keim's first draft class is all gone

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SK Sucks anyone who doesnt see that is smoking ........... Keim gets outworked over and over! All he does is prove it deals, traded for Palmer and Jones and thats it. Sucks at drafting, falls in love with guys who switched positions in college or are from some Small School college we never heard. He inherited a Superbowl team...... Coach searrch, Arians and Wilks were both the dead last candidates, to be hired.
I bet Keim is fired in 1 or 2 seasons

https://raisingzona.com/2017/01/10/arizona-cardinals-draft-history-steve-keim/
Arians was a great coaching hire. Can't fault him there

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I'll give him one more draft class.... before I bump the threads where everyone jumped down my throat for saying SK sucked.

Yes, he is a God compared to Rod Graves..... But anyone with a pulse could have achieved the same amount of improvement.

Someone with a pulse AND a little luck, could have easily done better than SK.

Why do you (and others) continue with the Cards if they give you so little enjoyment?

If you wish to be a fan of an NFL team, there are 31 other teams out there to follow and become a fan.

Can you think of one positive thing to say about the Cards?

If not, time to file for the divorce and move on. Life is way too short to spend it on a non-essential form of entertainment that causes you so much anger, hostility, and frustration. The fun has to outweigh the misery and if it doesn't, leave the misery behind. Become a fan of something that makes you happy.
 

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As much as I don't like some of Keims early picks SKBA changed the way players are viewed interchangeable parts every team is trying to do what we did on the defensive side he ain't big enough or fast enough let's create a placse for him Amzaed we never did it on offensive side of the ball to late for BA maybe we will figure out a FB can change line of scrimmage in today's NFL JMO
 

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Arians was also the last coach available, Cards were last team in need of Coach and Arians was the last quality candidate
That means nothing to me. That's like wanting us to sign the biggest name free agent every year. It's not how it works.

I didn't have an affinity for many of the same coaches during the Arians hiring. Andy Reid was tempting though.

This go around I want enamored with when it came to shurmer and etc. Just because they have a hot name doesn't mean they are the best coach or the best fit

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Why do you (and others) continue with the Cards if they give you so little enjoyment?

If you wish to be a fan of an NFL team, there are 31 other teams out there to follow and become a fan.

Can you think of one positive thing to say about the Cards?

If not, time to file for the divorce and move on. Life is way too short to spend it on a non-essential form of entertainment that causes you so much anger, hostility, and frustration. The fun has to outweigh the misery and if it doesn't, leave the misery behind. Become a fan of something that makes you happy.

Holy crap you're SOOO off base with this post.... Look around the board for a few minutes, 90% of posts here are Card fans venting, especially this time of year (for a team with historically terrible drafts)

You're worse than a complainer.... You're complaining about complainers. :biglaugh:
 
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Holy crap you're SOOO off base with this post.... Look around the board for a few minutes, 90% of posts here are Card fans venting, especially this time of year (for a team with historically terrible drafts)

You're worse than a complainer.... You're complaining about complainers. :biglaugh:

LOL.

I see a difference in offering a balanced opinion and alternatives and simply posting non-stop temper tantrums.

Now, where do you come up with your "90% of posts" figure? I believe it is true, maybe higher, in your case . . . but for the whole forum?

Do you have at least one good thing to say about anything in regards to the Cards?

Find a hobby that makes you happy.
 

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Just like a third of the league!!
Teams with no players remaining on their roster from the 2013 Draft- Buf, Cle, Indy (only has one player left in the NFL-Kerwynn Williams), Denver, Jax, Mia, NYG, Oak, STL (once Austin is cut) and TB.

-8 teams with 1 player- Car, Chi, GB, NE, NYJ, TEN, SD, SEA
-9 teams with 2- DAL, HOU, KC, MIN, NO, PHI, BAL, SF AND WAS
-2 teams with 3- PIT and CIN
-2 teams with 4- ATL and DET
This is the most relevant post in this thread.
 

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Dude, he was a sixth round pick and Keim gambled on his past concussion history because he was highly productive at A&M. I agree Keim has not been stellar in the draft but now you are just trying to pour on the hate sauce
Swope was already known to have concussion issues but he drafted him anyway and it doesn't matter the round. Andre Ellington was drafted after him and he was pretty decent for us for a while and let us not forget that Tom Brady was a 6th round draft pick. And it isn't hate if it's a fact. Keim simply cannot draft and that's a cold hearted fact and those facts speak for themselves.
 

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Why do you (and others) continue with the Cards if they give you so little enjoyment?

If you wish to be a fan of an NFL team, there are 31 other teams out there to follow and become a fan.

Can you think of one positive thing to say about the Cards?

If not, time to file for the divorce and move on. Life is way too short to spend it on a non-essential form of entertainment that causes you so much anger, hostility, and frustration. The fun has to outweigh the misery and if it doesn't, leave the misery behind. Become a fan of something that makes you happy.
I'm so sick and tired of posts like this. So you don't qualify as a real fan unless you cheerlead it 500%? Is it so wrong that some of us who have been fans of this team for 40 years want a frigging championship before we die?
 

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Why do you (and others) continue with the Cards if they give you so little enjoyment?

If you wish to be a fan of an NFL team, there are 31 other teams out there to follow and become a fan.

Can you think of one positive thing to say about the Cards?

If not, time to file for the divorce and move on. Life is way too short to spend it on a non-essential form of entertainment that causes you so much anger, hostility, and frustration. The fun has to outweigh the misery and if it doesn't, leave the misery behind. Become a fan of something that makes you happy.
Man your post just sucks. If you want to question someone’s opinion, fine. If you want to question someine’s Fandom then hit the road. We don’t need you here.
 

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LOL.

I see a difference in offering a balanced opinion and alternatives and simply posting non-stop temper tantrums.

Now, where do you come up with your "90% of posts" figure? I believe it is true, maybe higher, in your case . . . but for the whole forum?

Do you have at least one good thing to say about anything in regards to the Cards?

Find a hobby that makes you happy.
Who made you the internet-everyone-has-to-be-happy police? Lame. Take it elsewhere.
 

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Who made you the internet-everyone-has-to-be-happy police? Lame. Take it elsewhere.

Probably the same person who anointed you the internet-I-soiled-my-diaper-and-I'm-blaming-you police.

Were you a Panther fan before switching to the Cards? If not, take a look at your future:

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I'm so sick and tired of posts like this. So you don't qualify as a real fan unless you cheerlead it 500%? Is it so wrong that some of us who have been fans of this team for 40 years want a frigging championship before we die?

So, not only are you in a manic state of perpetual rage, you are also sick and tired??? Does it tell you anything that so many are putting up 'posts like this' in response to your comments?

Got you by twenty+ years on waiting for the Cards to win the championship.

How does your constant negativity (1) move the Cards closer to winning anything (2) move you toward some peace and enjoyment while watching a football game?
 
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Swope was already known to have concussion issues but he drafted him anyway and it doesn't matter the round. Andre Ellington was drafted after him and he was pretty decent for us for a while and let us not forget that Tom Brady was a 6th round draft pick. And it isn't hate if it's a fact. Keim simply cannot draft and that's a cold hearted fact and those facts speak for themselves.

Swope was 2nd round talent that they took a chance on in the 6th round. Absolutely nothing wrong with that. Keim is slightly above league average in the draft. Stats don't lie. Just because he doesn't pick people you prefer doesn't mean he can't draft. I'm sure you wanted Foster last year over Reddick. ;)
 

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LOL.

I see a difference in offering a balanced opinion and alternatives and simply posting non-stop temper tantrums.

Now, where do you come up with your "90% of posts" figure? I believe it is true, maybe higher, in your case . . . but for the whole forum?

Do you have at least one good thing to say about anything in regards to the Cards?

Find a hobby that makes you happy.

Search my history... Said plenty of good things about the Cards, and the people who post here...

If you want constant rainbows and puppies, go to The Patriots board.

Are there a lot of whiners here? Yes, but this franchise has sucked ass for almost a 100 years.. But I am still a die-hard fan, and I reserve the right to call a spade a spade.

Here is some sunshine for you... My recently completed office.

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Probably the same person who anointed you the internet-I-soiled-my-diaper-and-I'm-blaming-you police.

Were you a Panther fan before switching to the Cards? If not, take a look at your future:

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Glad this site has ignore. Bye.
 

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Search my history... Said plenty of good things about the Cards, and the people who post here...

If you want constant rainbows and puppies, go to The Patriots board.

Are there a lot of whiners here? Yes, but this franchise has sucked ass for almost a 100 years.. But I am still a die-hard fan, and I reserve the right to call a spade a spade.

Here is some sunshine for you... My recently completed office.

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Sorry SoCal---I looked at your posting history and it shows almost nothing but complaints and whining. I stopped at the 3rd page because it was so depressing.

http://www.arizonasportsfans.com/forum/search/4212585/

You do get credit for being persistent in your misery---you have 5,329 posts. The other stat is the number of 'Likes'
at 378 or 7% of what you post (which is higher than your fellow complainer Ouchie-Z-Clown). How many
are for the avatar post of the bikini-clad woman?

Nice office and Cardinal red wall---wish it was bringing you some joy as a fan instead of a steady drumbeat of misery. Sometimes a spade is not a spade but a shovel used to dig a grave.

Let's hear something positive.
 

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Head on over to the Panther fan's house and help him clean up the mess he made with his temper tantrum.

You didn't look beyond the off-season lol.

I can tell from all your support in this thread, that you are a well liked "super-fan"

Move on.... nothing to see here...... except you criticizing "critics". :koolaid:
 
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