Stop the Panic - Cards are 1 game out of 1st

[ARZCardinals]

Wow - you'd thought the sky was falling, nukes had been launched and the world was ending in this forum.

Relax - the Cards have work to do

Cards are good at home and should be able to play well against a Giants team going from East to West.

Slow down folks....some of you need to have an anger management class or two.

 

[Duckjake]

Wow - you'd thought the sky was falling, nukes had been launched and the world was ending in this forum.

Relax - the Cards have work to do

Cards are good at home and should be able to play well against a Giants team going from East to West.

Slow down folks....some of you need to have an anger management class or two.

Alright. A throwback post from 2003!

 

[Catfish]

Wow - you'd thought the sky was falling, nukes had been launched and the world was ending in this forum.

Relax - the Cards have work to do

Cards are good at home and should be able to play well against a Giants team going from East to West.

Slow down folks....some of you need to have an anger management class or two.

The problem is that the Cards have the same problems to work on that they have had since Whiz came here. He promised 'smart, tough, disciplined' football. He rode Denney Green's personnel to a SB appearance. Since then he has gradually shipped Denney[s personnel out and replaced then with his choices of Steeler's rejects and veteran dead weight that can't do the job needed. Each week is the same story, same problems to fix in the weekly presser, same players blamed, same poor play calling, same poor personnel choices. The only thing that changes is the injuries. Whiz is 6-13 since Warner left, and we just lost to maybe the worst team in the worst division in professional football. He has done NOTHING to show that he is even thinking about changing anything we have been doing. Same effort, same results. I've had enough of it.

 

[40yearfan]

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[BigRedRage]

im sure we are all concerned with things moreso than just winning the pathetic division. if we win at 7-9 i dont take that as a win.

 

[chickenhead]

For me it's not so much panic, but thinking that we should be 2-1 and tied for first with the Niners. You only get so many winnable games... Now we have the Giants, @Minnesota, Pittsburgh, and @Baltimore. We might be looking at 1-6 when we could have been 3-4.

I'll happily eat my words if things turn out differently, though. And as always, I'll be cheering them on next weekend.

 

[AsUpRoDiGy]

The 'only' way the Giants lose is if they have a massive implosion. 5+ Turnovers and 10+ Penalties, even then, the Cards would barely, barely win. If the Giants play well, theres a .01% chance the Cards can outplay them. The Giants are better coached, have better players, better schemes etc...Whiz is becoming the next lame duck coach just waiting to be shipped out.

 

[Seandonic]

Wow - you'd thought the sky was falling, nukes had been launched and the world was ending in this forum.

Relax - the Cards have work to do

Cards are good at home and should be able to play well against a Giants team going from East to West.

Slow down folks....some of you need to have an anger management class or two.

I am relaxed and don't need anger management classes and I can tell you this: The 2011 Cardinals are...through.

You touch on the problem in your statement, "the Cards have work to do." Well the problem with this is that no amount of work will change the fact that this team has the worst offensive tackle tandem in the NFL and an O-line coach with at best, questionable blocking schemes.

When it comes to the defense, again you have a deficiency that no amount of work and scheming can fix: No real quality play from the OLB's. Especially when it comes to pass-rushing.

In both cases (offense and defense) it's not that they (OT's and OLB's) don't know where to be or what to do, it's that they are physically incapable of doing it.

Kolb will improve as will all the other young guys and guys adjusting to a new scheme but those two glaring issues will be the downfall of this team until someone hopefully fixes them next year.

And therein lies the legitimate reason for anger and "the sky is falling" mentality. It's another 5-11 or 7-9 season with a side of wait till next year. Long suffering fans of this team feel they don't deserve that...and IMHO, they are absolutely right to feel that way, three miserable showings and a 1 and 2 record, into this season.

 

[Buckybird]

Wow - you'd thought the sky was falling, nukes had been launched and the world was ending in this forum.

Relax - the Cards have work to do

Cards are good at home and should be able to play well against a Giants team going from East to West.

Slow down folks....some of you need to have an anger management class or two.

I heard the same thing last year about week 5...we all know how that turned out. We're in deep doodoo with the upcoming schedule & anyone who thinks otherwise is thinking just like Wiz & his coaching staff right now. This team has major holes in major areas in it & the faster we as fans & our coaching staff admit it, the faster it gets turned around.

2 of the major 3 pieces of a decent football team are missing, you figure out which ones they are.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

Its not so much that we are one out of 1st but our next 5 or 6 games look more loseable than winnable:

VS Giants
@MIN
@PHI
@Balt
vs. PIT
@STL.

To me best case scenario is: 2 wins (MIN and STL) and that puts the team @ 3-6 ; worst case scenario and is very likely we don't win a single game during this stretch.

 

[slanidrac16]

The sky isn't falling.....the thud you hear is the sky has fallen.

There is no way in the world a team hoping to win this division goes into Seattle and scores 10 points.

There is no way in the world you can call this team a contender for anything but a higher draft pick.

We consistantly let players go without an adequate backup. Would it have been so terrible to have Hightower, Beanie and Williams as a rb trio? Instead we give away Hightower for a 5th and a 100 year old DLineman who sees about 3 plays a game.

Is Levi Brown REALLY an OT? NO! He has no business playing perhaps the second most important position on the offense.

How much better would this team be if we would have found an AVERAGE OT last year or this year. How much better would we be if we still had Hightower, Breaston, Dansby, Rolle, and Antonio Smith?

This organization does not know how to retain their core players in a timely manner.
Dansby could still be here if we didn't dick around tagging him because we questioned what his motivation would be if he got a big pay day. Turns out we paid him MORE by tagging him instead of just signing him to a long term deal. And did we plan his replacement? Uh, No.
The same could be said about Breaston. He was a GAMER! Caught just about everything his hands touched not to mention his courage to go over the middle. To this point who has replaced him?
And how about Rolle? We rewarded Wilson at the "twilight " of his usefullness and management don't have the balls to admit it or reduce his role. Rolle, who was better suited to be a SS was forced to play FS. Today he would be starting over Wilson.

Anybody that wants to dupe themselves into thinking this organization knows what the hell they are doing, be my guest. Truth be known we were lucky to catch lightning in a bottle in 08 and to a little lesser degree 09. Those days are gone my friend. Long gone.

 

[NJCardFan]

Is this what we're reduced to? Worrying about winning this awful division? Don't you want to win it with an 11-5 or around that record? Are you serious in not minding winning it at 7-9? C'mon. We're already a laughing stock division and a laughing stock team. All the respect we gained from 2007-09 was flushed down the crapper in one fell swoop.

 

[Buckybird]

The sky isn't falling.....the thud you hear is the sky has fallen.

There is no way in the world a team hoping to win this division goes into Seattle and scores 10 points.

There is no way in the world you can call this team a contender for anything but a higher draft pick.

We consistantly let players go without an adequate backup. Would it have been so terrible to have Hightower, Beanie and Williams as a rb trio? Instead we give away Hightower for a 5th and a 100 year old DLineman who sees about 3 plays a game.

Is Levi Brown REALLY an OT? NO! He has no business playing perhaps the second most important position on the offense.

How much better would this team be if we would have found an AVERAGE OT last year or this year. How much better would we be if we still had Hightower, Breaston, Dansby, Rolle, and Antonio Smith?

This organization does not know how to retain their core players in a timely manner.
Dansby could still be here if we didn't dick around tagging him because we questioned what his motivation would be if he got a big pay day. Turns out we paid him MORE by tagging him instead of just signing him to a long term deal. And did we plan his replacement? Uh, No.
The same could be said about Breaston. He was a GAMER! Caught just about everything his hands touched not to mention his courage to go over the middle. To this point who has replaced him?
And how about Rolle? We rewarded Wilson at the "twilight " of his usefullness and management don't have the balls to admit it or reduce his role. Rolle, who was better suited to be a SS was forced to play FS. Today he would be starting over Wilson.

Anybody that wants to dupe themselves into thinking this organization knows what the hell they are doing, be my guest. Truth be known we were lucky to catch lightning in a bottle in 08 and to a little lesser degree 09. Those days are gone my friend. Long gone.

Awesomely said!!! This franchise doesnt now the meaning of the words proactive or foresight

 

[NJCardFan]

The sky isn't falling.....the thud you hear is the sky has fallen.

There is no way in the world a team hoping to win this division goes into Seattle and scores 10 points.

There is no way in the world you can call this team a contender for anything but a higher draft pick.

We consistantly let players go without an adequate backup. Would it have been so terrible to have Hightower, Beanie and Williams as a rb trio? Instead we give away Hightower for a 5th and a 100 year old DLineman who sees about 3 plays a game.

Is Levi Brown REALLY an OT? NO! He has no business playing perhaps the second most important position on the offense.

How much better would this team be if we would have found an AVERAGE OT last year or this year. How much better would we be if we still had Hightower, Breaston, Dansby, Rolle, and Antonio Smith?

This organization does not know how to retain their core players in a timely manner.
Dansby could still be here if we didn't dick around tagging him because we questioned what his motivation would be if he got a big pay day. Turns out we paid him MORE by tagging him instead of just signing him to a long term deal. And did we plan his replacement? Uh, No.
The same could be said about Breaston. He was a GAMER! Caught just about everything his hands touched not to mention his courage to go over the middle. To this point who has replaced him?
And how about Rolle? We rewarded Wilson at the "twilight " of his usefullness and management don't have the balls to admit it or reduce his role. Rolle, who was better suited to be a SS was forced to play FS. Today he would be starting over Wilson.

Anybody that wants to dupe themselves into thinking this organization knows what the hell they are doing, be my guest. Truth be known we were lucky to catch lightning in a bottle in 08 and to a little lesser degree 09. Those days are gone my friend. Long gone.

I couldn't agree more with you on this. Look at the more successful teams out there. What do they have in common? They keep their core players around. Know what the knock on the Steelers was going into this season? That they were too old. Same with Baltimore. But look at those teams. Roethlisberger is in his 8th year. Ward, 14th. Miller, 7th, Troy, 9th. They keep their core players. They dump the dead weight(to which Whiz scoops up as fast as he can). Why couldn't we have kept Boldin? Breaston? Rolle? DRC? But know who is our longest tenured player? A-Dub. He's the only one who's been here at least 10 seasons. Whiz has set this franchise back at least 5 years.

 

[az jam]

No panic button hitting here just facing reality that the Cards are not a good football team. It seems like 2010 all over again. I can accept the Washington Redskins loss but the Seahawks are a really bad football team. That was an embarrassing loss.

 

[NJCardFan]

No panic button hitting here just facing reality that the Cards are not a good football team. It seems like 2010 all over again. I can accept the Washington Redskins loss but the Seahawks are a really bad football team. That was an embarrassing loss.

2010? I'm seeing 2000 all over again.

 

[Krangodnzr]

I know I said to my family that if we lose this game, stick a fork in us, we're done.

IMO it's true. We've lost back to back games that we had to win, and we didn't.

 

[conraddobler]

Who would of ever thought we'd look back on Gandy's tenure here as a time of great OT riches?

 

[ajcardfan]

You can compensate for bad losses by winning games that you are not "supposed to win". Problem is, the "not supposed to win" now includes most of the rest of the schedule for the Cardinals. Starting this Sunday.

 

[Mitch]

You can compensate for bad losses by winning games that you are not "supposed to win". Problem is, the "not supposed to win" now includes most of the rest of the schedule for the Cardinals. Starting this Sunday.

You've got that right, AJ.

 

[MadCardDisease]

You can compensate for bad losses by winning games that you are not "supposed to win". Problem is, the "not supposed to win" now includes most of the rest of the schedule for the Cardinals. Starting this Sunday.

If there is one thing that can be learned from the game sunday is the affect that the crowd can have on the game. A very loud crowd gives the defense a huge advantage. There isn't much we as fans can do to fix the problems that the Cards currently have. However there is one thing that we can do to help and that is to blow the roof off of UoP on Sunday. Make it so loud that Manning can't even hear himself think!

 

[CHAPTER 7]

Most likely these types of losses will haunt you at the end of the year. "If we have one that game we would have been in the playoffs!". Seattle is a bad team and we need to realize we are worse or equally bad? We better win these types of games. Knowing Cards, i felt they will lose and they did...and that's the sad expectation that I have...I hope and want them to be at least dominant against a bad team. But I am starting to realize we are pretty bad team.

 

[Dayman]

We're also only one game out of the #1 draft pick slot.

It's nearly impossible to be out of the division race this early in the season. The Panthers, Bengals and Broncos are also only one game out of first in much tougher divisions. I think the fact it's been over a year since we won a divisional game in arguably the worst division in sports is a better indication of where this team truly stands. I don't want to be too negative, but I also don't want to fool myself into thinking that we're an actual contender.

 

[Darkside]

Wow - you'd thought the sky was falling, nukes had been launched and the world was ending in this forum.

Relax - the Cards have work to do

Cards are good at home and should be able to play well against a Giants team going from East to West.

Slow down folks....some of you need to have an anger management class or two.

I would normally agree with you, but last year I did that and it was a slow, methodical, agonizing, painful, never-ending death.

 

[gmabel830]

Its not so much that we are one out of 1st but our next 5 or 6 games look more loseable than winnable:

VS Giants
@MIN
@PHI
@Balt
vs. PIT
@STL.

To me best case scenario is: 2 wins (MIN and STL) and that puts the team @ 3-6 ; worst case scenario and is very likely we don't win a single game during this stretch.

Wouldn't the best case scenario be winning all 6?! Boy, you must really hate this team if your best case scenario is that we lose 4 out of the next 6 games!!

Perhaps winning 2 of our next 6 games is the most realistic scenario. I'm remaining optimistic, but I do think a 3-6 start is probably realistic at this point given the upcoming stretch of games. But, I don't think we are out of it if we do start 3-6. We'll probably be 2 games behind the Niners at that point, with 2 games left against them and a favorable schedule in our last 9 games. So, the season may ultimately come down to how we respond to a slow start and if we can mature enough along the way to rally in the second half of the season once our younger guys have more experience, have the entire playbook down, and are playing winnable games as the season progresses. Yesterday's loss was extremely deflating, but I'm not freaking out -- and I won't freak out at a 3-6 start. Lose @ SF in Week 11 and I'm freaking out -- and then lose @ STL and I've officially lost hope.

Also, the game you noted @STL is actually at home vSTL.