Stu Jackson on AM 910

[arthurracoon]

on 2nd Q

Tim Duncan looked like he was celebrating the dunk
but im not a mind reader, but i do read body language

we have to apply the rule consistently


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[nashman]

Stu is a jackass as well as Stern maybe one of the worst decisions ins sports that I can remember!

 

[ActingWild]

Hopefully he'll explain how he's able to do a radio interview, much less walk, after his hard core screwing of the entire city of Phoenix up the A**. 6 million people in 1 day is really impressive. Kudos Stu and Stern.

 

[HooverDam]

This is the probably with the rule, you have to try to determine a players intent which is insane. You can't say "well it looked like Tim Duncan wasn't going to go start a scuffle, but it looked like Amare and Boris were." Well they didn't and neither did Duncan, so no one ought to be punished, its so stupid.

Zero tolerance rules are ridiculous in sports and in actual law, this case proves it beyond a shadow of a doubt I think.

 

[azdad1978]

What an ass. Just say we are going to give the series to the Spurts!!!

 

[dreamcastrocks]

on 2nd Q

Tim Duncan looked like he was celebrating the dunk
but im not a mind reader, but i do read body language

we have to apply the rule consistently


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reply: we have to apply the rule consistently



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You don't celebrate a dunk by walking out on the court. If so, WHY DID BOWEN BRING HIM BACK TO THE BENCH? This logic makes no sense.

 

[CHAPTER 7]

You don't celebrate a dunk by walking out on the court. If so, WHY DID BOWEN BRING HIM BACK TO THE BENCH? This logic makes no sense.

Exactly.

 

[Louis]

I thought Stu Jackson held the NBA's position very well. He didn't beat around the bush in any manner and explained their reasoning and it is clearly just.

It's maddening as Suns fans, but Amare and Boris had no business leaving the bench.

Amare even had the nerve to lie about his intentions afterwards. Trying to say he was checking in. Not only the did NBA not buy his lie, Antoni scoffed at the suggetion during a postgame interview.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

I thought Stu Jackson held the NBA's position very well. He didn't beat around the bush in any manner and explained their reasoning and it is clearly just.

It's maddening as Suns fans, but Amare and Boris had no business leaving the bench.

Amare even had the nerve to lie about his intentions afterwards. Trying to say he was checking in. Not only the did NBA not buy his lie, Antoni scoffed at the suggetion during a postgame interview.

You think that Amare came up with that gem on his own? Craig Sager reported this in game, minutes after the "altercation." Do you think right after Amare checked in, he sat down and thought about why he got up to check on Nash? This was probably an idea of one of the assistants.

I would like about it too. Wouldn't you?

 

[Louis]

You think that Amare came up with that gem on his own? Craig Sager reported this in game, minutes after the "altercation." Do you think right after Amare checked in, he sat down and thought about why he got up to check on Nash? This was probably an idea of one of the assistants.

I would like about it too. Wouldn't you?

It was Amare that looks like the liar in that situation. Nobody else from the Suns staff (as far as I've seen or heard) supported his story.

To quote Kerr during the game, it was a "young mistake" when referencing Amare's poor decision to leave the bench area.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

It was Amare that looks like the liar in that situation. Nobody else from the Suns staff (as far as I've seen or heard) supported his story.

True, but the common theme in every conspiracy: Someone has to take the fall.

 

[CHAPTER 7]

Stu is on ESPN. He said something like Stat and Diaw walked 20~25 feet and that was too much into the court. i thought NBA suspended players who stepped in the court like a foot. Didn't that happend to Barkley and J.Rose???

 

[TheKid_1]

Im listening to Stu on Cold Pizza right now and it is just making me angrier and angrier!!!! ******** IT!!

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Stu is on ESPN. He said something like Stat and Diaw walked 20~25 feet and that was too much into the court. i thought NBA suspended players who stepped in the court like a foot. Didn't that happend to Barkley and J.Rose???

Doesn't surprise me. I expected him to say something stupid like that.

 

[CHAPTER 7]

Doesn't surprise me. I expected him to say something stupid like that.

Right. But if they are sticking to the rule, what does 20~25 feet really matter? Should be stepping into the court period. He is so stupid to mention that. he is creating his own conflict.

 

[zett]

I thought the letter of the law stated only five players on the court at 1 time, Duncan should of at least been hit with a technical.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Right. But if they are sticking to the rule, what does 20~25 feet really matter? Should be stepping into the court period. He is so stupid to mention that. he is creating his own conflict.

It doesn't. That's why they have to treat each case on a case by case basis. They should have suspended both Bowen and Duncan, but because of how far they went, he didn't. He is consistently being inconsistent.

 

[Louis]

I thought the letter of the law stated only five players on the court at 1 time, Duncan should of at least been hit with a technical.

Which is a more just explanation as to why Bowen pulled Duncan back onto the court, to avoid a call of a technical.

This plain sucks. As a diehard Suns fan it's a tough pill to swallow.

What a horrible way for Amare/Boris to learn a lesson. But it is a golden rule.

Stu Jackson was eloquent in his reasoning and his explanation that it's impossible for the guys on the court to know what the intent of the guys running from the bench are explains fully the NBA's position.

 

[CHAPTER 7]

It doesn't. That's why they have to treat each case on a case by case basis. They should have suspended both Bowen and Duncan, but because of how far they went, he didn't. He is consistently being inconsistent.

Once again, I concure with your Dream. THIS IS BS!!!!!!! I cannot concentrate on my work...

 

[dreamcastrocks]

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Stu Jackson was eloquent in his reasoning and his explanation that it's impossible for the guys on the court to know what the intent of the guys running from the bench are explains fully the NBA's position.

But says nothing about Duncan being on the court?

Illogical again. How can it be impossible for him to know Duncan's intent?(thought he was celebrating the dunk) He just said it himself that it is impossible to know his intention. Another argument that makes no logical sense. Contradicting himself again.

 

[bko32]

Right. But if they are sticking to the rule, what does 20~25 feet really matter? Should be stepping into the court period. He is so stupid to mention that. he is creating his own conflict.

The rule isn't simply just stepping on the court. It's leaving the vicinity of the bench. Stu was using the 20-25ft as support for determining why Amare and Boris were deemed to have left the vicinity of the bench.

 

[jlove]

Stu Jackson is a moron. Look at the tape again. The Suns bench was standing at the time Horry clocked Nash. At that split second, Amare and Boris rushed to check on Nash. They had left the bench at that time. Horry turned around and took 5 steps (walking steps) away from where Nash was before Bell confronted him. That means Amare and Diaw were off the bench BEFORE and "Altercation" even started. So Stu Jackson saying that it's black and white and that they HAD to suspend Amare and Diaw is horse $HIT. The league set the precendence when they decided to let EVERYTHING Bowen has done go with a slap on the wrist. Amare and Diaw did THE EXACT SAME THING that Bowen and Duncan did in the game. They were OFF THE BENCH to check on a fallen teamate. There was no altercation at the time Amare/Diaw and Bowen/Duncan were off their respective benches.

 

[bko32]

But says nothing about Duncan being on the court?

Illogical again. How can it be impossible for him to know Duncan's intent?(thought he was celebrating the dunk) He just said it himself that it is impossible to know his intention. Another argument that makes no logical sense. Contradicting himself again.

Stu also made it very clear the in the Duncan situation there was no altercation, be it physically or verbally. After the play occurred, both players simply got up and turned up the court and continued playing. Since there was no altercation, the "leaving the bench rule" didn't apply.

 

[CHAPTER 7]

The rule isn't simply just stepping on the court. It's leaving the vicinity of the bench. Stu was using the 20-25ft as support for determining why Amare and Boris were deemed to have left the vicinity of the bench.

he did also mentioned if Stat and Diaw was just few steps in or something like that, the outcome might be different (not exact quote). so what is that mean? Didn't NBA suspend players for stepping into the court in the past??? I believe the answer is yes.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Stu also made it very clear the in the Duncan situation there was no altercation, be it physically or verbally. After the play occurred, both players simply got up and turned up the court and continued playing. Since there was no altercation, the "leaving the bench rule" didn't apply.

Elson had to be stopped by the referee. That IS an "altercation."