Suns 2019 GM/Front Office Search

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Ayton is the one to watch this summer. His development is critical to the teams success.

I think Booker should worry about staying healthy. Am I the only one that thinks he looks like he is in poor shape, comparatively speaking of course. I wonder if that contributes to his injuries. Maybe he needs some advice from Nash. Didn't he have a crazy fitness regiment? I could be thinking of someone else.

I agree with all of this.

 

[BC867]

The Suns forum wouldn't be the same without BC and I mean this in the best way possible.

We can handle a difference of opinion.

Anyone who likes Simon and Garfunkel is good in my book.

Thanks, Mainstreet. I love rooting for the Suns, D-backs and Mercury. And, as a perfectionist, I can't "echo in the sound of silence" when I see management flaws.

 

[Mainstreet]

Thanks, Mainstreet. I love rooting for the Suns, D-backs and Mercury. And, as a perfectionist, I can't "echo in the sound of silence" when I see management flaws.

It's more enjoyable to concentrate on the positive. If one only looks at the negative all they see are flaws.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

It's more enjoyable to concentrate on the positive. If one only looks at the negative all they see are flaws.

Or at a minimum strive to find a bit of balance. I know I’m chock full of realism when it comes to sports, but if I cease finding the upside then what’s the point?

 

[sdscard4]

He's turned into a troll, essentially. Whenever someone points out an error he makes, he cries foul and claims he's being personally attacked. I don't think he knows what a personal attack is based on how quick he is to accuse others of attacking him as well as how often he attacks others. He won't debate anything, either because it's not his job or he claims the person attempting to engage with him is personally attacking him. Outside of blaming Sarver for this, that, and the other thing he only posts about the verbiage people use like some sort ASFN Rain Man who has to make it known whenever he spots a double negative.

The closest he'll come to discussing something with someone is when he hijacks a post to talk about music or a movie or politics because he won't talk Suns basketball with anyone beyond telling them they're wrong for hoping for a better team and that they set their expectations too low, like only he knows how to be a proper fan. Onto the proper fan bit he still doesn't believe anyone outside of the Phoenix metro can care about the Suns as much as he does because they're not in the same "community" as the team, like that matters.

He doesn't add anything of value to any discussions about the Suns anymore. Maybe he'd be better suited talking music in one of entertainment boards here because he's not interested in talking about the Suns with anyone anymore. Based on what's he's been posting the last couple of months it seems he's only interested in getting on a soapbox and preaching about how awful Sarver is, debating verbiage, and telling people why their outlook on the Suns is incorrect.

So take away 90% of your post and it's basically I don't like what you say......so leave. Probably the worst post I've read on here. But I still won't ask you to leave

 

[Hoop Head]

Or at a minimum strive to find a bit of balance. I know I’m chock full of realism when it comes to sports, but if I cease finding the upside then what’s the point?

I can agree with that. I take issue with how some "fans" try to convince others why they shouldn't be optimistic or enjoy something, even if that optimism is unrealistic. Being a Suns fan in 2019 requires some blind loyalty and a bit of hope, even if it's false hope. When someone tries convincing me or someone else that the loyalty and hope is wrong though I question their motives because you would think a real fan would be happy that others can still enjoy the team. Instead there are those who act like the spoiled child who would rather break their toy instead of share it and that's how some fans seem to view this down stretch, IMO.


I know I'm guilty of it occasionally but I try not to get negative unless I see something that doesn't make sense, like how some call for Ayton to be fed inside and how no one tries getting him the ball when there are plenty of plays where he is fed but he willingly passes out or can't get position to do anything. I think he'll be a great player some day but a lot of his flaws that we've all seen fall on his shoulders more so than the coaching staff or his teammates.

 

[sdscard4]

I can agree with that. I take issue with how some "fans" try to convince others why they shouldn't be optimistic or enjoy something, even if that optimism is unrealistic. Being a Suns fan in 2019 requires some blind loyalty and a bit of hope, even if it's false hope. When someone tries convincing me or someone else that the loyalty and hope is wrong though I question their motives because you would think a real fan would be happy that others can still enjoy the team. Instead there are those who act like the spoiled child who would rather break their toy instead of share it and that's how some fans seem to view this down stretch, IMO.


I know I'm guilty of it occasionally but I try not to get negative unless I see something that doesn't make sense, like how some call for Ayton to be fed inside and how no one tries getting him the ball when there are plenty of plays where he is fed but he willingly passes out or can't get position to do anything. I think he'll be a great player some day but a lot of his flaws that we've all seen fall on his shoulders more so than the coaching staff or his teammates.

You gotta remember he would be in his 2nd year of college and hes so raw. That's why coaching and mentorship is so huge for him right now. I just don't see Igor being that guy

 

[sunsfan88]

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[Mainstreet]

The Suns should be a desirable job with the players and assets they have.

Sarver gave McDonough plenty of time to do get the job done right. Maybe too much time.

 

[sunsfan88]

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Stein clearly has not followed on how Sarver feels about payroll for his staff.

Blank check from Sarver ....LOL

 

[Phrazbit]

I'd take Griffin over the Sarver/Jones combo, but I don't see what makes Griffin appealing.

LeBron came back to the Cavs because he felt guilty... Griffin put a lousy team around him... the Cavs won a title anyway because LeBron cranked it up to 11 one year in the playoffs.

 

[1tinsoldier]

So take away 90% of your post and it's basically I don't like what you say......so leave. Probably the worst post I've read on here. But I still won't ask you to leave

fully agree
it sounded like "if you don't like this country, leave"
(a country founded from dissent & criticism and on freedom of speech)
and the prior "follow your actual home team" sounded exactly like "why don't you go back to where you belong"

i also heard a little "get off my lawn" (though it isn't even his)
and there was a little "burn the witch" between the lines

bullying other posters into silence should be unacceptable forum behavior,
especially since we all can skip or use the "ignore feature"

shame on anyone who launches or Likes that kind of campaign against another poster

you may criticize critics like me, 1sun, or BC
but i would never post that kind of gestapo nonsense, and i don't believe they would either

 

[1tinsoldier]

and back on topic, but related to my prior post, in that ESPN clip "No One Wants To Work For Suns" the analyst claims Sarver has the worst approval rating of any NBA owner in history except Donald Sterling.

there are a hell of a lot of critics of the PHX Suns all over this country right now

 

[Mainstreet]

Sarver gave McDonough a lot of free reign over his five years as the Suns GM but he made a lot of mistakes.

I suspect if had done a better job he would still be the Suns GM.

 

[Hoop Head]

News!

Apparently Sarver is interested in former Detroit and New Orleans GM Jeff Bower.

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[Hoop Head]

From that article...

Sarver has discussed with prospective job candidates a senior advising role that will allow interim GM James Jones to continue in a lead front office capacity with decision-making power, league sources said. Jones had sat in on interviews, along with Arizona Cardinals All-Pro receiver Larry Fitzgerald, league sources said.

Bower was the Pistons GM under President of Basketball Operations and coach Stan Van Gundy for four seasons until a change was made in May.

Bower has been a well-respected executive in the league for two decades, earning praise for his organization and scouting acumen in 11 seasons as GM in Charlotte, New Orleans and Detroit. Van Gundy made final decisions on personnel in Detroit.

Bower helped lead Detroit back into the playoffs in 2015-16 for the first time in five years, and he helped engineer trades for All-Star Blake Griffin and point guard Reggie Jackson. Bower has led two NBA franchises -- New Orleans and Detroit -- out of the lottery and into the postseason as a GM.

He also worked in the NBA and college as a coach.

So James Jones will be kept, no surprise, and Bower would take on a managerial sort of role and essentially stand between Sarver and Jones. He's got plenty of experience, which is good, and it's not terrible experience either. I'll need to read up more on him but I'd be ok with this move.

I do find it curious Larry Fitzgerald sat in on an interview. That doesn't make sense, at all, but whatever. Little Sarver does makes sense and he could surround himself with worse people than Fitz.

 

[AzStevenCal]

From that article...



So James Jones will be kept, no surprise, and Bower would take on a managerial sort of role and essentially stand between Sarver and Jones. He's got plenty of experience, which is good, and it's not terrible experience either. I'll need to read up more on him but I'd be ok with this move.

I do find it curious Larry Fitzgerald sat in on an interview. That doesn't make sense, at all, but whatever. Little Sarver does makes sense and he could surround himself with worse people than Fitz.

I know Sarver and Fitz are reportedly friends but I'm not sure where you get the idea that the new hire would be in between Sarver and Jones? You'd think it would be that way but it did say an advisor role so I'm not sure how it would work.

 

[SirStefan32]

Interesting! I really like what he did with New Orleans back in the day. I was less impressed with him in Detroit, though it's hard to tell exactly what his role was due to SVG being the coach and the president with him being a GM under SVG.

 

[Hoop Head]

I know Sarver and Fitz are reportedly friends but I'm not sure where you get the idea that the new hire would be in between Sarver and Jones? You'd think it would be that way but it did say an advisor role so I'm not sure how it would work.

Who knows what the title will be but the article mentioned he would be hired in a senior advisory type of role which would allow James Jones to stay in his position as GM. Who would he be advising, Jones? That doesn't make sense. The way it was worded and has been discussed leads me to believe this person would be Sarver's right hand man or his eyes and ears with the team. If Jones continues in his current role, possibly minus some of the things he doesn't like about that role, then where else would this new hire fit? If he were hired to work under Jones then this isn't news and no one would be talking about it.

 

[GatorAZ]

From that article...



So James Jones will be kept, no surprise, and Bower would take on a managerial sort of role and essentially stand between Sarver and Jones. He's got plenty of experience, which is good, and it's not terrible experience either. I'll need to read up more on him but I'd be ok with this move.

I do find it curious Larry Fitzgerald sat in on an interview. That doesn't make sense, at all, but whatever. Little Sarver does makes sense and he could surround himself with worse people than Fitz.

He had a bunch of goats put inside McD’s office. I think we’re past trying to make sense of what he does.

 

[JerkFace]

He seems to have some respect around the league which is definitely something the Suns need.

 

[1Sun]

Could do better, could do worse. I don't hate the move, except it all but guarantees that we will have to endure another year of Igor as head coach.

 

[JerkFace]

Looks like Bowers hired Monte Williams when he was with New Orleans. If the Suns move on from Igor I wonder what kind of relationship he has with Monte and if he would dip back into that well.

 

[Mainstreet]

This would help the Suns image around the league. I like that the Suns are keeping Jones in some capacity. He has done a good job in acquiring players like Oubre and Johnson with minimal assets.

I'm not sure about Fitz being involved but he is instant credibility.

 

[Mainstreet]

Evan Sidery‏ @esidery 4m4 minutes ago


Jeff Bower was the GM who chose Stanley Johnson over Devin Booker and Luke Kennard over Donovan Mitchell.