Suns acquire Nick Richards from Charlotte for Okogie & three 2nd rd picks

[Covert Rain]

I'm not taking a stance. However, as a Suns fan, I can't help but think Mat Ishbia sees the NBA differently than we do.

He sees solutions where we see mostly barriers.

The thought occurred to me, as I glanced at his other business doings, he may be playing chess while we are playing checkers.

Maybe it's possible to spend your way to prosperity and success if one knows what they are doing?

Guys like him think 10 steps ahead. While we are all focused on this run? For all we know he already is thinking about what happens if this doesn’t work.

I heard Mark Cuban once say that all you need to do is be right one time. It’s that mentality that failure is OK. You move onto the next thing. It’s what sets these guys apart.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Guys like him think 10 steps ahead. While we are all focused on this run? For all we know he already is thinking about what happens if this doesn’t work.

I heard Mark Cuban once say that all you need to do is be right one time. It’s that mentality that failure is OK. You move onto the next thing. It’s what sets these guys apart.

I don't see it that way but I sure hope you guys are right about it.

 

[Chaplin]

Guys like him think 10 steps ahead. While we are all focused on this run? For all we know he already is thinking about what happens if this doesn’t work.

I heard Mark Cuban once say that all you need to do is be right one time. It’s that mentality that failure is OK. You move onto the next thing. It’s what sets these guys apart.

I think that's something most professional athletes have to do. I have no doubt that gets frequently mistaken as being not caring. Hell, people on this very forum think that Book doesn't care about winning.

 

[GatorAZ]

Guys like him think 10 steps ahead. While we are all focused on this run? For all we know he already is thinking about what happens if this doesn’t work.

I heard Mark Cuban once say that all you need to do is be right one time. It’s that mentality that failure is OK. You move onto the next thing. It’s what sets these guys apart.

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We better hope so because his experiment is failing and his arrogant comments about the roster are sure causing some schadenfreude among other franchises.

 

[Mainstreet]

I would think that's a stance but okay. If I understood you correctly, you believe he's showing the ability to maneuver beyond the restictions placed on us by the CBA and that it's a good thing? If so, you could be right; and I certainly hope so.

Personally, the Suns situation is so messed up, I've taken a wait and see mode.

However, I realize there are other ways to get things done than the traditional way.

I'm simply looking at the possibility Mat Ishbia may see the Suns window of opportunity differently than we as fans or other NBA owners do. He may see opportunity where we see failure.

As an example, Mark Cuban had different ideas as well when he first became an NBA owner. Of course, the rules have changed, but it's still possible to be innovative.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Personally, the Suns situation is so messed up, I've taken a wait and see mode.

However, I realize there are other ways to get things done than the traditional way.

I'm simply looking at the possibility Mat Ishbia may see the Suns window of opportunity differently than we as fans or other NBA owners do. He may see opportunity where we see failure.

As an example, Mark Cuban had different ideas as well when he first became an NBA owner. Of course, the rules have changed, but it's still possible to be innovative.

I can't see it the same way but I like the fact you are trying to find the positives in our situation.

 

[mjb21aztd]

Any update if richards playin tom? Always fun to see new player on suns with solid num stats

 

[Mainstreet]

I can't see it the same way but I like the fact you are trying to find the positives in our situation.

When you are on a runaway train and they announce the next stop is Paris, I bet many of us are hoping it's Paris France, not Paris Texas.

 

[Mainstreet]

See Duane Rankin talk about the Suns rebounding woes at about the 5:20 mark of the video.

This was a NOW trade for the Suns. Perhaps another trade may happen.

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[Mainstreet]

Any update if richards playin tom? Always fun to see new player on suns with solid num stats

Nothing yet. I will keep looking for it.

 

[Germz249]

See Duane Rankin talk about the Suns rebounding woes at about the 5:20 mark of the video.

This was a NOW trade for the Suns. Perhaps another trade may happen.

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There are a couple of trades in the works.. just be ready for another Germ drop.

 

[Phrazbit]

Twitter is abuzz with the idea we are trading Allen for picks and to get closer to the apron, but it appears to all have been started by one of the "insiders" who is never ever right.

 

[Mainstreet]

Twitter is abuzz with the idea we are trading Allen for picks and to get closer to the apron, but it appears to all have been started by one of the "insiders" who is never ever right.

And I was reading the Suns were going to trade Allen for picks so they can complete the Butler trade…

 

[Covert Rain]

I don't see it that way but I sure hope you guys are right about it.

People like Ishbia wouldn’t be so successful unless they were strategic thinkers.

 

[Mainstreet]

There are a couple of trades in the works.. just be ready for another Germ drop.

Please be careful and exclude Dunn and the 2031 first round pick if possible. There is a lot of kickback on the forum to these ideas.

If you have to include one for BUTTER, please get lots of 2nd round picks included, even if they don't convey.

For some reason, Suns fans have a huge appetite for those.

 

[Mainstreet]

Josh Okogie is going to look good in Hornets colors.

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[hcsilla]

Why do you regret Okogie leaving - he never plays if Royce and Dunn are available.

When he played, I liked what he did.

 

[hcsilla]

I've never been a Nurk guy but it's astounding how quickly he went from low tier starter to totally unplayable.

I was OK with him, but I don't understand his quick fall either.

 

[djm75]

That’s fair but he is #1 again in the NBA.

Where did you get this? He is #31 as of now.

 

[Phrazbit]

Okogie had some fun moments, for a month or so in 2023 he looked like an all-star. He always hustled, he played good D... usually, he hardly ever could shoot and he had a bit of a selfish streak, especially if he made a shot or 2.

With his terrible offense, you can't really trust him to be a heavy rotation guy, but he's also better than most 9-12 guys in the league.

 

[Carolinacacti]

My two cents, Charlotte tanking all ready ugh. Richards will help. Someone has two spell Durant when he is resting. I agree Oso could be the one since Bol Bol is a no no

 

[how_sweet_it_is]

Has scouting or players gotten better recently?

For the Suns, it appears they are suddenly better at drafting over the last two drafts.

I refuse to insult the James Jones FO about drafting. He's not Ryan McDonough. Didn't Jones draft Mikal Bridges and Cameron Johnson, or was that the GM before him? (It was during my pperiod of not paying attentiion.) And he did just make an excellent choice by drafting Dunn and Ighodaro. And Jalen Smith...he's no Hakeem Olajuwon or even DeAndre Ayton, but he would have been appreciated right now.

 

[Covert Rain]

Where did you get this? He is #31 as of now.

I heard them mention it on the broadcast and may have misheard. Maybe they were talking about a time frame. However, less than 1% separates him from Top 15 in % as of right now. I would imagine you see constant movement when it's that close. He is still one of the best 3 Point shooters in the NBA. Point being is the Suns searched and searched for good 3 point shooters for the longest time before finding one available that fit. Yes, there are people out there than can shoot them well but them being available is another story.

 

[djm75]

I heard them mention it on the broadcast and may have misheard. Maybe they were talking about a time frame. However, less than 1% separates him from Top 15 in % as of right now. I would imagine you see constant movement when it's that close. He is still one of the best 3 Point shooters in the NBA. Point being is the Suns searched and searched for good 3 point shooters for the longest time before finding one available that fit. Yes, there are people out there than can shoot them well but them being available is another story.

Yeah, it’s gotta be a time frame. Grayson’s been shooting over 50% lately. Royce and Tyus are currently ahead of him though in overall %. What’s crazy though is that the best 3-point shooters in the league as of now are Sabonis and Joker.

 

[Covert Rain]

Yeah, it’s gotta be a time frame. Grayson’s been shooting over 50% lately. Royce and Tyus are currently ahead of him though in overall %. What’s crazy though is that the best 3-point shooters in the league as of now are Sabonis and Joker.

Yeah, that's an anomaly that will balance out by end of season. Grayson has been on fire and looking like his normal self. With only 1% or so separating the top 15, I have zero doubt Grayson moves way up the list unless he goes into a slump.