Suns at Dallas 12/5/14

[Sci Fi]

Bledsoe has been tremendous on defense. Monta is a load for anyone but Eric has been disruptive throughout the night. The Mavs are setting easy picks at will, no one on the Suns is making it hard for them to do that. You can't put that on Eric.

Steve

lol, not so much at the analysis but your defense of Bledsoe.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Dragic definitely isn't average if that's who your aiming at. Average players don't put up the numbers that he does.

No, that's him taking a shot at me. I've maintained that Goran is an excellent player but his pure point guard skills are fairly average. I think he works far better as a combo guard playing alongside someone that can also run the offense. I think he's in the class of Harden and Manu when he gets to play his game but in a traditional offense there are probably a dozen pure point guards that are better running that offense than he is.

Steve

 

[AzStevenCal]

lol, not so much at the analysis but your defense of Bledsoe.

I'm watching the game with the Dallas announcers, they have raved about Bledsoe's defense tonight.

Steve

 

[Sci Fi]

I'm watching the game with the Dallas announcers, they have raved about Bledsoe's defense tonight.

Steve

I make up my own mind.

 

[Sci Fi]

No, that's him taking a shot at me. I've maintained that Goran is an excellent player but his pure point guard skills are fairly average. I think he works far better as a combo guard playing alongside someone that can also run the offense. I think he's in the class of Harden and Manu when he gets to play his game but in a traditional offense there are probably a dozen pure point guards that are better running that offense than he is.

Steve

Trust me, your analysis of Dragic deserves more abuse than it has received.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Trust me, your analysis of Dragic deserves more abuse than it has received.

Then make your points.

Steve

 

[Cheesebeef]

Trust me, your analysis of Dragic deserves more abuse than it has received.

no poster deserves "abuse" on this board. get a freaking grip.

and I don't get the Bledsoe bashing. Both of our guards are playing VERY WELL tonight, leading us to a pretty big road W and both of them have been playing better for the last couple games. Something might be starting to gel here.

 

[Sci Fi]

You never have used one data point. Not one.

How's that?

 

[sunsfan88]

No, that's him taking a shot at me. I've maintained that Goran is an excellent player but his pure point guard skills are fairly average. I think he works far better as a combo guard playing alongside someone that can also run the offense. I think he's in the class of Harden and Manu when he gets to play his game but in a traditional offense there are probably a dozen pure point guards that are better running that offense than he is.

Steve

Do you mean half court offense?

But overall, just as a basketball player, you don't think Dragic is average do you?

 

[sunsfan88]

Bledsoe has sucked on defense. What game are you watching. Monta has destroyed him.

Bledsoe has made Monta earn every basket he's scored on him. Usually Bledsoe has lapses where he'll sit there watchin the ball and give up easy baskets but his effort on the defensive end has been huge.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Do you mean half court offense?

But overall, just as a basketball player, you don't think Dragic is average do you?

No, not even close. I think he's a special player but he needs the right situation. He's not the only player in the league that needs that right situation. And yes, I was talking about half court offense. I'll take him pushing the ball and running the break any day of the week.

Steve

 

[sunsfan88]

Holy crap, Bledsoe is sweating more than the rest of the team combined.

THIS is what I expect out of someone making as much money as him. His effort on both ends has been outstanding tonight.

 

[Sci Fi]

no poster deserves "abuse" on this board. get a freaking grip.

and I don't get the Bledsoe bashing. Both of our guards are playing VERY WELL tonight, leading us to a pretty big road W and both of them have been playing better for the last couple games. Something might be starting to gel here.

Abuse is a word, not an action.

IMO, he trolled not only the board but Dragic with his analysis.

If you feel so strongly about "abuse", then you should have spoken up with Steve's idiocy. Tell me, do you think an All-NBA player is average?

 

[Mainstreet]

Huge win for the Suns.

Now everyone make nice.

 

[Sci Fi]

No, not even close. I think he's a special player but he needs the right situation. He's not the only player in the league that needs that right situation. And yes, I was talking about half court offense. I'll take him pushing the ball and running the break any day of the week.

Steve

Flim flam man. Go back and look at what he really thinks. It's all there.

He thinks Dragic is average. That's a FACT. He's mentioned this so many times, it's practically a joke.

 

[Proteus]

Great game by the Suns.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Tremendous game tonight by Markieff, Goran and Bledsoe. This is our first really good road win in the West.

Steve

 

[Mainstreet]

Tremendous game tonight by Markieff, Goran and Bledsoe. This is our first really good road win in the West.

Steve

Again, outstanding game.

Dragic had 13 assists and 28 points.

 

[Absolute Zero]

 

[BC867]

Good results when Dragic is running the Point throughout the game. 'Hope they keep it that way.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Abuse is a word, not an action.

IMO, he trolled not only the board but Dragic with his analysis.

he trolled the board by giving his opinion on a player you disagreed with? Sorry... that's not trolling. And criticizing a player on the board isn't trolling either. If that's the case, then you've been trolling the board by slamming McD repeatedly with your analysis.

If you feel so strongly about "abuse", then you should have spoken up with Steve's idiocy. Tell me, do you think an All-NBA player is average?[/QUOTE]

so, now he's an idiot too? now... THAT is trolling. As is saying he deserves abuse. Read the forum rules.

As to Dragic? I think he's a very good player, with solid PG skills, who is much better suited to be a Ginobli then an every day PG.

 

[devilalum]

Take your time getting well IT.

 

[Mainstreet]

Take your time getting well IT.

Just a gut feeling. Although IT is out injured, my guess the Suns would trade him for the right offer.

 

[BC867]

Kieff is playing solidly. 22 & 10. Steve Albert actually made a good observation about him tonight. "He's 6'10", but he doesn't look it because he's so thin."

With a trend of Kieff playing Center in 4th quarters (and Mook at Power Forward), that will catch up with us. I hope the coaching staff anticipates that. But credit goes to Kieff for producing right now.

 

[Mainstreet]

Kieff is playing solidly. 22 & 10. Steve Albert actually made a good observation about him tonight. "He's 6'10", but he doesn't look it because he's so thin."

With a trend of Kieff playing Center in 4th quarters (and Mook at Power Forward), that will catch up with us. I hope the coaching staff anticipates that. But credit goes to Kieff for producing right now.

So with Mason Plumlee out of the equation with the Nets, I hope the Suns go after him.