Suns at Timberwolves 1-7-2015

[SirStefan32]

Dragic is exhausted. Every miss is half an inch short.

 

[Mainstreet]

Bennett is one big dude in terms of a wide body.

 

[sunsfan88]

IT needs to pass the f***ing ball ********!

And the TWolves are completely taking advantage of a midget guarding Lavine by posting him up continuously.

 

[AzStevenCal]

I don't know why we look so bad in the second night of a back to back, there's no justification for it. We are 2-7 this season and it includes some of our worst losses. If I were Jeff I'd take a look at their overall training and nutrition program because these guys just shouldn't be struggling like this.

Steve

 

[sunsfan88]

Yeah and at the same time he acknowledged we were taking that firs shot because we were getting good looks and just missing them. The only shot I heard him complaining about was one from Marcus.

Steve

He said it three times. And Marcus wasn't the only one, Dragic did it, and IT did it s bunch also.

Honestly, everybody sees that except for most of this board. It's so bad that players are not even moving without the ball anymore because they know they will not get the ball if it's not from a drive and kick situation.

Yup, it's quite sad.

 

[SirStefan32]

Bennett is one big dude in terms of a wide body.

'Bazz is a big boy too.

 

[sunsfan88]

The TWolves are exposing the Suns right now.

Jon Barry is wondering why the Suns are taking jumpers instead of driving....um bro because we the Suns!

 

[AzStevenCal]

It's nice to see Goran attacking. Maybe the rest of the guys will take the cue.

Steve

 

[Mainstreet]

Honestly, everybody sees that except for most of this board. It's so bad that players are not even moving without the ball anymore because they know they will not get the ball if it's not from a drive and kick situation.

Where do you get this stuff from? Do you make it up.

 

[sunsfan88]

This is why I think it's hilarious when people think Bledsoe is the Suns best player.

Um no Dragic is.

The people who think Bledsoe is better usually come AFTER the game to post it because they know they have no proof to suggest otherwise during the game itself.

I expect Bledsoe to eventually get it going and probably end with like 16-18 PTs and like 6-8 rebounds or assists. But if it wasn't for Goran, this game would have been over in the 1st QTR.

 

[SirStefan32]

Where do you get this stuff from? Do you make it up.

From watching games.

 

[AzStevenCal]

This is why I think it's hilarious when people think Bledsoe is the Suns best player.

Um no Dragic is.

The people who think Bledsoe is better usually come AFTER the game to post it because they know they have no proof to suggest otherwise during the game itself.

I expect Bledsoe to eventually get it going and probably end with like 16-18 PTs and like 6-8 rebounds or assists. But if it wasn't for Goran, this game would have been over in the 1st QTR.

More nonsense. Check the stats. Tonight Dragic is clearly our best player but one game is not a season. So far this season, Goran has been slightly better on offense but Bledsoe has been our best player.

Steve

 

[SirStefan32]

This is why I think it's hilarious when people think Bledsoe is the Suns best player.

Um no Dragic is.

The people who think Bledsoe is better usually come AFTER the game to post it because they know they have no proof to suggest otherwise during the game itself.

I expect Bledsoe to eventually get it going and probably end with like 16-18 PTs and like 6-8 rebounds or assists. But if it wasn't for Goran, this game would have been over in the 1st QTR.

Bledsoe very well may be the better individual player, but these three (Bled, Goran, and IT) are just not a very good fit. Goran and Bled should both have 16 points and 8 assists off of each other.

 

[Cheesebeef]

From watching games.

Is that the same place you get people thinking Bledsoe is LeBron/Jordan/Kobe?

 

[Mainstreet]

From watching games.

No you are talking about "most of this board." The Suns faults are plain to see. The Suns do play too much isolation basketball.

 

[SirStefan32]

No you are talking about "most of this board." The Suns faults are plain to see. The Suns do play too much isolation basketball.

Ah! Sorry about that. I misunderstood your post. My apologies.

 

[Mainstreet]

Mr. Bledsoe. You do not have to take the last shot.

 

[Cheesebeef]

No you are talking about "most of this board." The Suns faults are plain to see. The Suns do play too much isolation basketball.

And even people who think Bledsoe can be a really good player acknowledge the above.

But it's much easier to paint those people as fanboy psychophants rather then actually engage in a discussion they want to be completely black and white.

 

[AzStevenCal]

No you are talking about "most of this board." The Suns faults are plain to see. The Suns do play too much isolation basketball.

Yes they do. But the drive and kick is also complained about here and that's our bread and butter. I'm not saying that's a great offensive plan but it's clearly what Jeff wants them to do. When the defenders sag off of our ball handlers, our offense tends to stagnate and if we don't make that unguarded shot we're in trouble. Tonight's been a good example of it.

Steve

 

[SirStefan32]

Mr. Bledsoe. You do not have to take the last shot.

See, THAT's what I mean- people like Cheese and Steve refuse to acknowledge that Bledsoe is selfish. Watching one game, everyone can see exactly what happened there happen several times, and people refuse to acknowledge it.

On a different note, as much as Bledsoe pissed me off with that play, the previous failed fastbreak was even worse. You have three (not, one, not two, but THREE) point guards in the game, and Morris decides to lead the fastbreak, turning the ball over resulting in an easy dunk for the Wolves.

 

[sunsfan88]

Hornacek needs to stop being so stubborn and realize that the 3 PG crap won't work against certain teams.

Minnesota is one of them. Their too big and athletic.

IT is getting destroyed out there he's too small against guys like Zach Lavine.

 

[Mainstreet]

Ah! Sorry about that. I misunderstood your post. My apologies.

I just thought we had already been through this category stuff.

 

[sunsfan88]

More nonsense. Check the stats. Tonight Dragic is clearly our best player but one game is not a season. So far this season, Goran has been slightly better on offense but Bledsoe has been our best player.

Steve

Bledsoe's defense has been overrated. Mo Williams is killing him today, Brandon Knight killed him last game. Westbrook LOVES playing against Bledsoe as well he always goes off on him.

Tyreke Evans killed him too and they had to make Dragic guard Evans to slow him down.

Goran hadn't been much worse than Bledsoe defensively this year.

Mr. Bledsoe. You do not have to take the last shot.

Yes. Yes he does. There's no such thing called pass.

Honestly though, I would rather him do something with it than IT.

 

[SirStefan32]

Hornacek needs to stop being so stubborn and realize that the 3 PG crap won't work against certain teams.

Minnesota is one of them. Their too big and athletic.

IT is getting destroyed out there he's too small against guys like Zach Lavine.

That's what BC and I bitch about all the time- it's not just the Center spot. Suns are outmatched physically on just about every position. Neither Dragic nor Bledsoe can guard guys like Bazz or Wiggins (even though Bazz hasn't taken advantage of this tonight).

You can survive being outmatched physically on one position, but not 4.

 

[Mainstreet]

See, THAT's what I mean- people like Cheese and Steve refuse to acknowledge that Bledsoe is selfish. Watching one game, everyone can see exactly what happened there happen several times, and people refuse to acknowledge it.

On a different note, as much as Bledsoe pissed me off with that play, the previous failed fastbreak was even worse. You have three (not, one, not two, but THREE) point guards in the game, and Morris decides to lead the fastbreak, turning the ball over resulting in an easy dunk for the Wolves.

I haven't seen this. They break down the game much like everyone else. I refuse to pit Dragic versus Bledsoe. That's not to say I cannot criticize parts of their game.