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I’m so tired of Ayton’s soft act. His complaining about the refs is laughable. How can he watch Giannis attack the basket with ferocity while Ayton continues to lay soft layups around the rim. Wake up!
“Only the refs can stop me” foulfoulfoulfoulfoulfoulfoul. Yeah this was really introspective. It was blaming the refs 100%. This has nothing to do with bias.
 

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I fail to see the logic in that statement. We ask Ayton to be more of a vocal leader on this team, and when he brings up a valid point, he should keep his mouth shut?
Vocal leader on this team means among the players. Thus far, with his aversion to contact as our Center,
he is not walking the walk. I, personally, would rather see him set a personal example, then be a leader on
the team, then to the Press only when he earns it by example. Especially considering the suspended games
he cost the Suns.

He is too young to be a leader on the team. Upton on the D-backs was a good example of that. He settled
into mediocrity when he was asked to be more than a young slugging right fielder.

Instant gratification is a lot to ask from a young, somewhat naive, ballplayer.
 

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Vocal leader on this team means among the players. Thus far, with his aversion to contact as our Center,
he is not walking the walk. I, personally, would rather see him set a personal example, then be a leader on
the team, then to the Press only when he earns it by example. Especially considering the suspended games
he cost the Suns.

He is too young to be a leader on the team. Upton on the D-backs was a good example of that. He settled
into mediocrity when he was asked to be more than a young slugging right fielder.

Instant gratification is a lot to ask from a young, somewhat naive, ballplayer.
I’m still waiting to for someone to point out where anyone asked Ayton to become a vocal leader . . .
 

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Vocal leader on this team means among the players. Thus far, with his aversion to contact as our Center,
he is not walking the walk. I, personally, would rather see him set a personal example, then be a leader on
the team, then to the Press only when he earns it by example. Especially considering the suspended games
he cost the Suns.

He is too young to be a leader on the team. Upton on the D-backs was a good example of that. He settled
into mediocrity when he was asked to be more than a young slugging right fielder.

Instant gratification is a lot to ask from a young, somewhat naive, ballplayer.
This is a bad take. You didn’t even address my point.

The only people who hold the suspension over Ayton’s head are the jaded fans. He’s apologized to the team and has been forgiven. He’s loved in the locker room. To continue to hold on to that as a reason to scold him is out of either sheer hatred or ignorance.

The Phoenix Suns organization has moved on from it; it’s time for you to do the same.
 

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Ayton puts up consistemt 20/10 with 3 blocks a night and solid defense, I got no problem with him. Booker we know will score and now he is playing defense. Oubre is becoming a consistent performer. We need upgrades at PF and PG, more at PF right now. We need a leader and maybe a vet presence at either PG or PF could provide that. Rubio is more of a fit in guy it looks like from the outside as a fan looking in.

That's why trading for Kennard puzzles me.
 

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Ayton puts up consistemt 20/10 with 3 blocks a night and solid defense, I got no problem with him. Booker we know will score and now he is playing defense. Oubre is becoming a consistent performer. We need upgrades at PF and PG, more at PF right now. We need a leader and maybe a vet presence at either PG or PF could provide that. Rubio is more of a fit in guy it looks like from the outside as a fan looking in.

That's why trading for Kennard puzzles me.
Or 18 points 12 rebounds and 1.5 blocks as are his real stats.
 

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Our lack of depth just really nails home to me how poorly we've drafted. Being in the lottery for the last decade, our team should be stocked with NBA talent. Yet, Booker is the only remaining pick prior to 2018. Awful, awful drafting.
 

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I’m still waiting to for someone to point out where anyone asked Ayton to become a vocal leader . . .
I think that what he is probably thinking about is the expectation that the center calls out defenses and direct defenses. Folks made a lot about Baynes doing this early. I am not sure that is so much being a leader as it is just doing his job on the floor. A center has to actually do the things that centers need to do.
 

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Our lack of depth just really nails home to me how poorly we've drafted. Being in the lottery for the last decade, our team should be stocked with NBA talent. Yet, Booker is the only remaining pick prior to 2018. Awful, awful drafting.
Isn't our lack of depth really about injuries? Wouldn't other teams struggle too with so many injuries?
 

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Isn't our lack of depth really about injuries? Wouldn't other teams struggle too with so many injuries?
With the exception of Rubio and Baynes (who we might have seen didn't have the
stamina for a full season), the other injured players are either inferior or unproven.

Able to stay healthy or not, they were not the answers to take us to the next level.
 
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