It’s one thing to criticize, but hating Ayton has become an obsession on this board beyond simple criticism. Much of it is merited, but there are posters who go way out of their way to take a jab. Case in point: Someone interjects with an opinion in support of Ayton and he’s “above criticism from two posters.”
Lol. Okay. I’ll just say this... don’t dish it out, if you can’t take it. And you’ve dished out plenty to other posters about Ayton for years. Hell, you just did it here with your “hawt take” mocking.. and then get pissy when someone comes back at you?
he took the timeout after the free throws anyway, it was a no brainer to challenge that play
Who was doing that?
Lol. I really think you don’t watch the games. The number is just part of the problem. Or maybe you didn’t see all the no-effort offensive rebounds he gave up. In the fourth quarter alone there were two key offensive rebounds that he gave up to Giannis where Ayton didn’t even jump.
No you are wrong. DA is our best player given that our other guys are out. The scoring was great and was absolutely critical in us staying in it. But his rebounding is disastrous and was a contributor to the loss.
Have you watched the last two games? Stats are great. But he got 30 and 8 in a loss. Other guys should have stepped up but it’s not that he “only” got 8 rebounds. It’s how he DIDN’T get more. He was passive and didn’t fight for anything. That’s the problem here. He could have had TWICE as many rebounds if he wasn’t dogging it so much. That is definitely a concern against a big time opponent. And he knows it too based on his quote after the game.
Yes and I was at multiple games the past few weeks. You have ridiculous expectations when it comes to Ayton. There are only 16 people in NBA history to average 12 rebounds or more per game in NBA history. Shaq is in the top 30 of all time averaging 10.85 per game and he was much stronger than Ayton who is getting 10.7. You guys are ridiculous.
If he was working hard to get those 8 rebounds then we wouldn’t be having this conversation. But he isn’t and hasn’t for a while now. The difference is that we all KNOW he can do better. He just isn’t.
Dear lord...now you want to argue when someone isn't or isn't working hard. The crux of your argument is he should be getting 12 a game which would make him better than most in NBA history. Based on what exactly? His draft position? What makes you think he should be rebounding more than Shaq, Tim Duncan or David Robinson?
He should be working harder. Do you dispute that? You watched the games. Do you dispute that he is doing everything he can to be aggressive and help his team win? Forget about the scoring for a minute. What else was he doing to help the team win?
I addressed that pretty clearly. I still dispute 100% the ridiculous take he should be getting 12 rebounds per game and the other ridiculous expectations that lack any perspective at all. There is no basis at all and I don't care who says it that Ayton should be rebounding better than players like Shaq, Duncan, Robinson for example. LOL. Ayton can say what he wants about wanting to do better. HE SHOULD.
Thank you! That's not even including the rebounding that was out of the lineup with Booker, Paul and Cam combined. Second chance points and rebounding has been the issue in our losses. Not one guy getting 4 more rebounds in a game.
The really disappointing thing is how badly our defense has fallen off since CP3 went down. I thought it was going to be our commitment to D that would carry us down the stretch, but outside the Portland game, it’s become like a layup line and we’re giving up a ton of offensive rebounds. And while Ayton has definitely raised his game on O with Paul out, he’s also led the way to that defensive collapse in the last six games.
Yeah I always hope to steal a game when they’re right there, but I had chalked this up to a loss so it doesn’t sting quite so much.
What is really scary? It fell that far off with a 36 year old Chris Paul. He was averaging the most steals since 2018. I think it's just his intensity. I don't think the team has anybody else to get in their face unless Paul is out there. The very definition of leadership.
