Suns @ Clippers Thursday game thread, October 31st, 2024

[Mainstreet]

I would say his footwork is slower in getting into his shooting motion.

JMHO, but Allen needs to play his way into basketball shape. He is too good a player to be shooting .333% from the field.

 

[SirStefan32]

I don't know. He looks less comfortable at the new weight.

I agree, but I really think he just hasn't found his rhythm yet. He had some injuries, just had a kid- he is just not ready to play yet. He'll get there.

 

[Mainstreet]

I agree, but I really think he just hasn't found his rhythm yet. He had some injuries, just had a kid- he is just not ready to play yet. He'll get there.

In time, Allen should be fine, but I don't think the extra weight and muscle did him any favor.

 

[Mainstreet]

I't's good to hear Kevin Durant is happy with the coaching staff and veteran players the Suns have on their roster.

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[Hoop Head]

I agree, but I really think he just hasn't found his rhythm yet. He had some injuries, just had a kid- he is just not ready to play yet. He'll get there.

It will be easier to make these decisions when we hit December 15th, or whatever the date around there is when players signed in the off-season can be dealt. Then we'll have a better idea of how everyone is playing in this system and who might be expendable.

 

[Mainstreet]

The Clippers led by 21 points in the 3rd quarter before the Suns woke up.

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[Mainstreet]

Nice to hear Devin Booker say his ankle is fine.

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[GatorAZ]

What a comeback. Thought they called it a night at halftime.

 

[Mainstreet]

Royce O'Neale's 21 point were a career high.

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[Mainstreet]

What a comeback. Thought they called it a night at halftime.

I thought the same. It sure looked like it.

 

[GatorAZ]

Thank goodness for Royce O'Neale stepping up tonight off the bench for 21 points on 7-8 shooting.

He’s 05’ Q-Rich shooting form and all.

 

[Mainstreet]

He’s 05’ Q-Rich shooting form and all.

Really had thought about the comparison. Royce does so many good things on the court. Great to have a bench player like him.

 

[GatorAZ]

Hopefully Grayson made a strong enough impression on other teams because he's our best trade chip. If Dunn and O'Neale can keep up their level of play then there's no minutes available for Grayson. Once Beal returns there will be fewer minutes to go around as well.


We need a strong rebounding PF who can slide over play C also. We don't have that and if Grayson can bring one in then the Suns need to weigh their options.

With Beal being so injury prone and Tyus only here for one year it would have to be a killer trade. Plus he can only be traded for a contract(s) equalling about $14-16m. Not sure what the options are.

 

[Mainstreet]

The Clippers may be like the Suns in the 4th quarter last season.

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[JCSunsfan]

Tyus Jones adds so much stability to this team. He is like Steve Nash in a plain wrapper. Not as flashy but so effective, his shooting is solid.

 

[Hoop Head]

With Beal being so injury prone and Tyus only here for one year it would have to be a killer trade. Plus he can only be traded for a contract(s) equalling about $14-16m. Not sure what the options are.

We can go lower. Grayson's cap hit is $15.6, I believe. So we can go lower but not higher. You can sort salaries on Spotrac. Bobby Portis is who I'd want the most that fits that criteria. The below is just PF's. You can view C's also. Of course rookies or rookie contracts like Paolo aren't happening.

NBA Contracts

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[clyde2tw]

We can go lower. Grayson's cap hit is $15.6, I believe. So we can go lower but not higher. You can sort salaries on Spotrac. Bobby Portis is who I'd want the most that fits that criteria. The below is just PF's. You can view C's also. Of course rookies or rookie contracts like Paolo aren't happening.

NBA Contracts

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Pistons Stewart also fits.

 

[Phrazbit]

It's the way Allen came into camp that has me concerned. IMO, the extra weight-muscle has effected his shot.

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I don’t think it’s muscle, he’s got “dad bod” going on.

He spent the offseason with his late pregnancy wife… putting on weight is understandable. I hope he’s trying to slim down.

He was never quick for his position, now he looks flat out slow.

6’4”guards guards who don’t play good or physical defense should not be anywhere near his current weight.

 

[Phrazbit]

Nice to hear Devin Booker say his ankle is fine.

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This scared me live, but I think he might have been embellishing a bit because he didn’t get the call. Dude clearly was in Booker’s landing zone.

 

[Carolinacacti]

Can we put the 4th quarter holoween night mares of last year to bed

 

[Sparky16]

Thank goodness for Royce O'Neale stepping up tonight off the bench for 21 points on 7-8 shooting.

This is what the clown Vogel could not figure out last year, finding the hot hand and rolling with it. Allen will have his games when he is the one.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

Apparently the Suns made 15 shots in a row in the 3rd quarter. Wonder what the record is for that sort of thing.

 

[BirdGangThing]

Apparently the Suns made 15 shots in a row in the 3rd quarter. Wonder what the record is for that sort of thing.

*while playing defense

 

[Hoop Head]

Can we put the 4th quarter holoween night mares of last year to bed

Way too early to make that call but this team shows more tenacity for sure. I'm certain people believed we'd turn it all around for at least half of last season. I'm not sure when the tide turned but I'd say around the All-Star Break or trade deadline is when the majority of Suns fans saw Vogel's days were numbered and admitted that team was headed nowhere.

This appears to be more than a new chapter but potentially a new story altogether. Budenholzer has depth, isn't afraid to ride the hot hand, and will sit anyone who isn't contributing. He sat Nurk for almost the entire 2nd quarter and kept him on a short leash. He also sat KD for a long stretch in the 2nd half and pulled Allen for taking bad shots. Ball movement was fantastic with Tyus, Booker, O'Neale, Dunn, and Plumlee out there. They turned things around.

 

[JCSunsfan]

It might actually be easier to manage this team with Beal out—or other players out on any given night.

I am really impressed with Bud so far. And Tyus makes such a difference; especially in the 4th. It is so good to see passing rather than ISO ball all 4th quarter.