Suns @ Clips May 18,2006 game thread

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Updated: May 18, 2006, 3:33 PM ET
Scouting report: Clippers vs. Suns Game 6

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Suns offense:
The Clippers are trying to stop Steve Nash as a scorer in this series and they have limited his points, but the Suns are doing a better job spacing and moving without the basketball around him. The Suns have had success with Nash dribbling to the foul line and having players come up from the baseline and curl around him, back toward the hoop waiting for a handoff. The Clippers continue to struggle against the pick-and-pop play on the 3-point line. The Clippers are so focused on Nash that they rarely stay with the screener to contest his shot. The Suns should allow Raja Bell to run the point more when Nash is on the bench, allowing Leandro Barbosa to play his natural shooting guard position. Sam Cassell is a worse defender than advertised. Every Suns player should look to go at him if they have him in a switch.
Suns defense: When the Suns have Nash defend Corey Maggette instead of Cassell, it might be a trap to try and get the Clippers away from going to Elton Brand. Boris Diaw has to do a better job blocking out Chris Kaman on the defensive glass. Kaman gets too many second chance opportunities, but the Suns might not have to worry about Kaman because of his shoulder injury that limited him to 20 minutes in Game 5.
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Clippers offense: The Clippers can win Game 6 by using a two-man game of Brand and Cassell. Los Angeles has a lot of players whose shot selection is questionable, but Brand almost always will make the right decision. Too many plays just end with him in the post. As good as he is, the Phoenix double team is active enough to not allow Brand an easy catch. Maggette had a poor start to Game 5 when he was defended by Nash. Maggette bailed Nash out by settling for jump shots, and would set up in the post on Brand's side of the paint, clogging the area. If this defensive pairing is a trap by the Suns' coaches, find out by running some isolation for Maggette instead of acting surprised by it. The Clippers have the athleticism to play a fastbreak game with the Suns, but not the mentality, evidenced by their carelessness with the basketball in key possessions.

Clippers defense: Los Angeles is having a difficult time deciding how it's going to switch on perimeter pick-and-rolls, and on curls towards the paint. The Clippers are going to have to switch on everything and communicate that to each other, instead of worrying about a match-up disadvantage after a switch. If the player who Nash is defending goes to the post, this can be effective keeping Nash behind everyone after a defensive rebound instead of ahead of the field waiting for an outlet pass.
Original pick: Clippers in six.
 
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If Nash starts hitting his shots in the first quarter the suns will win this game, if he does not it could go either way.
 

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The Clips are favored by five points. The O/U is 213.5.


I don't think the Suns can ride Marion and hope for missed shots tonight, like they did in game 5. They're going to have to get more offense from somewhere, either Nash making his jump-shots, or Diaw and/or Barbosa stepping up and taking a much larger role.

The good news is that the Suns have history on their side--they won both game sixes they played the last two years (and on the road in both cases). Plus, the Suns have a game in hand, so if things turn sour, they can regroup and take a couple of days to prepare for game 7.


Here's hoping the Suns close things out tonight! :thumbup:
 

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Most Valuable Prop: Sharps expect big game from Nash

By Brian Covert
Thu, May 18, 2006


Steve Nash is one tired MVP and he’ll be the first to tell you that.

“Physically, I’m not necessarily prepared to be the shot-maker I was a week or two ago,” the Phoenix Suns point guard told the East Valley Tribune Wednesday. “I’m going to feel better one of these days.”

Deciding if Nash is talking about tonight could be vital to prop bettors looking to lay money on the crafty point guard’s play in Phoenix’s critical Game 6 versus the Los Angeles Clippers.

Sportsbooks are giving odds on Nash’s cumulative points and assists for tonight’s showdown, with 30-34 points-assists being the favorite at +200.

This is surprising given Nash has only hit that number once in the last four games
, notching 17 points to go with 13 assists in the Suns 125-118 double-overtime win in Game 5 Tuesday. During this lacklustre stretch, the usually reliable Nash is shooting only 38 percent and is 0-13 from beyond the 3-point arc.

“We have 30-34 as the favorite because that’s where the money is,” says Bodog.com linesmaker Todd Allen. “We had it lower earlier but a majority of the money, which is almost all sharp money because that’s who usually plays props, so we had to bump it up.

"They must think he’ll have a pretty big game.


Nash averaged 17.5 points and 11 assists in four regular season games against Los Angeles.

Oddsmakers have made the Suns 5-point underdogs for tonight’s game. The total is set at 213 ½ points.
 

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Jason Terry is suspended for game six of the Mavericks/Spurs series, so it's much more likely that series will go seven games now.

That puts another carrot in front of the Suns tonight. If they manage to close out the Clippers, they'll get an extra two days of rest--they won't have to play again until next Wednesday. :)
 

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F-Dog said:
Jason Terry is suspended for game six of the Mavericks/Spurs series, so it's much more likely that series will go seven games now.
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Though its heartening to hear that the Mavs would have to play Game 7, I hate the prospect of the Spurs winning another game. You never know with the Spurs. A game 6 win could make them come out all guns blazing in game 7, which is scary.
I just don't want the Spurs getting anywhere near the WCF.
Can't decide Between the devil and the deep blue sea..
 
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az1965 said:
So, they don't change the pick even though now it is not possible?

Notice they said this time, "original pick, Clippers in six"
You would think they could come up with another pick now.

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Regarding playing the Mavs or Spurs, I think the Spurs are not the same team they were last year, and I also think the Mavs look better than they did last year.
This is one of those times when we may not want to ask to play the Mavs, we may get what we ask for and lose!!!
 
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I think both teams are fatigued, but If the suns can come out scoring and get ahead and sustain it for a while knowing the Mavs and Spurs are going to have to play one or two more games, this will give the suns some incentive and the Clips might not be able to come back. Lets hope Nash starts this game scoring!
 

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whoa - what? What did Terry get suspended for?
 
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[FONT=times new roman, georgia, times]Dallas G Terry suspended from Game 6[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, Georgia, Times]DALLAS, May 18 —[/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman, Georgia, Times]The Mavericks-Spurs series took another wild turn Thursday, with Dallas guard Jason Terry getting suspended from Game 6 for punching former teammate Michael Finley while chasing a loose ball in the closing seconds of Game 5. [/FONT]
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Terry and Finley jostled with 3.4 seconds left in San Antonio's 98-97 victory on Wednesday night. Terry wound up on his back, grasping the ball, but Spurs forward Manu Ginobili got a hand on it, too, to force a jump ball.
While officials were trying to sort out who had possession, Finley was visibly angry and needing to be restrained by teammates. He appeared to be making a fist and telling his teammates that someone had punched him.
Nothing was called at the time. Neither team mentioned it during postgame interviews.
''Unbelievable,'' Mavs owner Mark Cuban wrote in an e-mail to The Associated Press. ''Michael Finley does a pile driver with his hip to Jason's head while he is on the ground. Jason is on his back with Ginobili laying on top of him.
''No question he tried to get Finley off of him and he should be fined for that. But to suspend him is questionable.''
Terry missed a 15-foot jumper in the closing seconds, allowing San Antonio to keep alive its title defense.
The Mavericks still lead the series 3-2. They have another chance to advance to the conference finals with Game 6 at home. If the Spurs win, Game 7 would be Monday night in San Antonio.
Terry already had been sharing point-guard duties with Devin Harris since Game 2. Dallas' most likely move would be adding Jerry Stackhouse to the lineup.
Stackhouse and Finley tangled at the end of Game 2, with Stackhouse getting a technical foul.
Finley has been a lightning bolt all series, with his teammates and coaches offended that he's been getting booed in Dallas. Finley spent the previous nine seasons with the Mavericks, making the All-Star team twice and leaving as the fourth-leading scorer in franchise history.
After practice Thursday, Terry was finishing shooting before speaking to reporters when he was called to the locker room by coach Avery Johnson. He didn't return and he wasn't expected to take part in his local radio show scheduled for Thursday night.
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WOW - OMG, if the Mavs some how lose this series after being up 3-1 and we can somehow pull off another win and get backto the Conference Finals, with Cuban watching Nash get further than his squad AGAIN, that would be just beautiful (especially in a year where it will take a miracle to win this sucker).

I figure if we play SA, all of the last couple DYNASTIES lost to their nemesis twice before they beat them (Lakers with the Jazz, Bulls w/the Pistons, Pistons with Boston/LA), so I'll chalk this year up to that and when Amare comes back and KT is healthy, NO ONE will be talking about the Mavs next year - everyone will KNOW it's between two teams SA AND THE SUNS!

I can't believe I'm saying this - I'm actually rooting for the Spurs. I HATE the Mavs and Cuban - allthey do is bitch and moan and put Steve Nash down - screw that team.
 

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cheesebeef said:
WOW - OMG, if the Mavs some how lose this series after being up 3-1 and we can somehow pull off another win and get backto the Conference Finals, with Cuban watching Nash get further than his squad AGAIN, that would be just beautiful (especially in a year where it will take a miracle to win this sucker).

I figure if we play SA, all of the last couple DYNASTIES lost to their nemesis twice before they beat them (Lakers with the Jazz, Bulls w/the Pistons, Pistons with Boston/LA), so I'll chalk this year up to that and when Amare comes back and KT is healthy, NO ONE will be talking about the Mavs next year - everyone will KNOW it's between two teams SA AND THE SUNS!

I can't believe I'm saying this - I'm actually rooting for the Spurs. I HATE the Mavs and Cuban - allthey do is bitch and moan and put Steve Nash down - screw that team.

true,

but this year, IF both the Pistons and Spurs go down, then suddenly, we have a shot.

I say there's no way we beat either the Pistons or Spurs, but without those two, we actually would have a chance.
 

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I'm rooting for the Spurs because I'm in a playoff bracket pool, and I picked them to beat Dallas in seven. But I'd rather see the Suns play Dallas, assuming they are fortunate enough to advance.
 

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Could someone remind Marion that Brand made all-nba 2nd team and he only made 3rd team? Also if we can get the word out that Marion is going to be traded in the offseason that'd be great.
 

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cheesebeef said:
I HATE the Mavs and Cuban - allthey do is bitch and moan and put Steve Nash down - screw that team.

I really like Dirk, but that aside I agree with your loathing.
 

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Could someone remind Marion that Brand made all-nba 2nd team and he only made 3rd team? Also if we can get the word out that Marion is going to be traded in the offseason that'd be great.

:raccoon:
 

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Boris really needs to start making those layups. As Bill Walton would say, "THROW IT DOWN BIG MAN! THROW IT DOWN!"
 

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Wow, I'm shocked we're looking like crap in a game that isn't a "must-win", that never happens. :rolleyes:
 

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16-3 run by the Clippers and guess when it happens ... at the end of the qtr. Shocker

Come on guys drive the ball, then kick. Don't just be happy getting the ball within 30 feet of the basket
 

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