Suns have 6th pick and 32nd pick in 2019 draft.

[AzStevenCal]

Well considering they are in rebuild mode with an aging pg (arguably the most important position) who wants out and you have a pg prospect that has franchise changing potential then yes I absolutely believe them, but if you want a real trade scenario that Memphis might consider it'd be this

Memphis gets:
Mikal bridges
TJ
#6
Top 3 protected pick next year

Sun's get:
Parsons
And #2

That might actually make them take it

For us, I think that's as much of an overpay as the other trade proposal was a steal - maybe even more so.

 

[SunnyBaller]

Sorry, but I think you're in a fantasy world in this draft. Morant is the #2 prospect, but in an actual decent draft (like last year for example), he wouldn't even be top 5. This board tends to either overvalue or undervalue our assets, and you are definitely undervaluing them.

JC simply posted that he didn't think Memphis would do it, which I somewhat agree with, but I was speculating on what it would take for them to consider it. We strongly disagree on that point, obviously.

I didn't say my trade scenario wasn't an over pay but that's what you'd have to do to move up in this draft , when you look at the original posted trade we gave up nothing of real value to move up in this draft #6 isn't worth much, as much as sun's fans my self included like Josh's potential he has no trade value (maybe 2nd round pick at the moment) and we swapped one expiring contract for another , they won't trade away the second pick for a worse prospect and alittle bit of cap space

 

[SunnyBaller]

Why on earth would we even consider that

Any rational team wouldn't , sarver maybe , but that's the only way I'd see us getting the 2nd pick, I wouldn't make that trade but you have to look at it from Memphis point if view and they aren't taking less than a trade similar to that

 

[Chaplin]

I didn't say my trade scenario wasn't an over pay but that's what you'd have to do to move up in this draft , when you look at the original posted trade we gave up nothing of real value to move up in this draft #6 isn't worth much, as much as sun's fans my self included like Josh's potential he has no trade value (maybe 2nd round pick at the moment) and we swapped one expiring contract for another , they won't trade away the second pick for a worse prospect and alittle bit of cap space

I think that's the disconnect. There is no doubt Memphis would say YES immediately to that, but I think they would say yes, or at least consider it, for something far less. It's that top 3 protected pick last year that I have most of my issues with. First, I don't think we'd even contemplate that, and second, I don't think the value of the #2 would necessitate Memphis demanding it. This isn't Luka Doncic or DeAndre Ayton we're talking about here. I know people like Morant, but if he is the true #2 prospect in this class, then this class REALLY sucks.

 

[JCSunsfan]

I mean if we are talking about Coby White vs Dinwiddie - yeah I would do that deal I guess. But if Garland or Culver is still on the board I would be against it.

Do you think Culver could play with Book?

 

[SunnyBaller]

I think that's the disconnect. There is no doubt Memphis would say YES immediately to that, but I think they would say yes, or at least consider it, for something far less. It's that top 3 protected pick last year that I have most of my issues with. First, I don't think we'd even contemplate that, and second, I don't think the value of the #2 would necessitate Memphis demanding it. This isn't Luka Doncic or DeAndre Ayton we're talking about here. I know people like Morant, but if he is the true #2 prospect in this class, then this class REALLY sucks.

I mean that pick could probably have more protection but since the new lottery rules I really don't know if that made that pick more valuable or less

 

[1Sun]

If you want to go by Booker's words, he's the one that when asked late in the season how come he was playing so well said "I'm finally healthy". But even playing at less than full strength he was still easily our best player, which should tell you something about the roster. And I'd love to see that quote from Booker where he says "I am not a point guard, I have never been a point guard and I never will be a point guard". I know he's talked about being new to the position and it not being his first choice, hopefully you have something much stronger to back up your claim?

He said he was able to get healthy BECAUSE he was no longer playing the point all the time.

 

[Mainstreet]

Here are some thoughts about who the Suns should draft. Garland comes in first with White second.

https://www.nba.com/suns/gallery/2019-phoenix-suns-mock-draft-tracker

 

[1Sun]

No he doesn't.

He has 1 year left at 25 million. - But it would make getting Randle nearly impossible.

The starting PG would be Ja Morant.

I would do that deal too, but I don't think the Memphis would.

And I maintain that Ja Morant is at least 2-3 years away from being able to be even an average NBA starter, which leaves us without a starting point guard or power forward next year, which sets Monty up to fail and sets up a repeat of the debacle of the past two seasons, which has Booker and Ayton wanting out.

This team absolutely cannot afford not to properly address the starting point guard position, if not both starting point guard and starting power forward, this offseason. It would kill the franchise once and for all.

 

[1Sun]

That... and that Tyler Johnson is a better option at that contract than Parsons is. And I would venture to say, yes, that is the case. Tyler gets a lot of flak on this board for some reason.

Because he sucks...but at least he is not the walking corpse Parsons is.

 

[1Sun]

I mean if we are talking about Coby White vs Dinwiddie - yeah I would do that deal I guess. But if Garland or Culver is still on the board I would be against it.

Where would Culver play???

 

[1Sun]

Well considering they are in rebuild mode with an aging pg (arguably the most important position) who wants out and you have a pg prospect that has franchise changing potential then yes I absolutely believe them, but if you want a real trade scenario that Memphis might consider it'd be this

Memphis gets:
Mikal bridges
TJ
#6
Top 3 protected pick next year

Sun's get:
Parsons
And #2

That might actually make them take it

And then we might as well trade Booker and Ayton, because even with them, this team wouldn't be competitive until their contracts are up, and they will have asked out in the meantime.

 

[1Sun]

Why on earth would we even consider that

Stupidity?

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Someone on RealGM, not a Suns fan suggested Tyler Johnson, Josh Jackson and #6 for Chandler Parsons and #2.

I believe I would do that trade.

In a heartbeat.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Well considering they are in rebuild mode with an aging pg (arguably the most important position) who wants out and you have a pg prospect that has franchise changing potential then yes I absolutely believe them, but if you want a real trade scenario that Memphis might consider it'd be this

Memphis gets:
Mikal bridges
TJ
#6
Top 3 protected pick next year

Sun's get:
Parsons
And #2

That might actually make them take it

That’s an over pay

 

[Yuma]

This guy barely plays any games. Really? At least the Chandlet Parsons Wikipedia Page doesn't show many per season. 34, 36, 25 over the last three seasons?

 

[SunnyBaller]

That’s an over pay

I know I said it was an over pay , but realistically if the sun's wanted #2 that badly they would have to overpay, my example was a tad much but the original proposed trade was asinine

 

[SunnyBaller]

And then we might as well trade Booker and Ayton, because even with them, this team wouldn't be competitive until their contracts are up, and they will have asked out in the meantime.

You might have missed some of my other posts with this but I wasnt suggesting this, I was stating what would most likely be given up if the sun's actually wanted morant that bad because Memphis isn't trading out of #2

 

[1Sun]

You might have missed some of my other posts with this but I wasnt suggesting this, I was stating what would most likely be given up if the sun's actually wanted morant that bad because Memphis isn't trading out of #2

I get that. My point was that if the Suns wanted Morant that bad, they would be gutting their franchise for him, basically becoming the NBA's version of Morant's Murray State team.

 

[Mainstreet]

A random thought but I wonder if the Suns have explored trading the Bucks pick to Milwaukee for #30. It probably doesn't get much better.

It seems feasible if the Suns want to get a point guard like Ty Jerome or a big man like Mfiondu Kabengele. They are right on the bubble for the Bucks pick.

They could easily trade number #6 in this situation and still get two players in the draft who have a good chance of making the team with #30 and #32.

 

[Hoop Head]

A random thought but I wonder if the Suns have explored trading the Bucks pick to Milwaukee for #30. It probably doesn't get much better.

It seems feasible if the Suns want to get a point guard like Ty Jerome or a big man like Mfiondu Kabengele.

They could easily trade number #6 in this situation and still get two players in the draft who have a good chance of making the team with #30 and #32.

That pick has more value in a future trade than it does trading it away for #30. That would be selling it off at it's lowest possible value since that is as far as it can fall and this is also considered a weak draft so adding the #30 right now doesn't make a lot of sense.

 

[Mainstreet]

That pick has more value in a future trade than it does trading it away for #30. That would be selling it off at it's lowest possible value since that is as far as it can fall and this is also considered a weak draft so adding the #30 right now doesn't make a lot of sense.

It makes sense if the Suns like a player that falls to that spot who may not make it to #32. It gives the Bucks more flexibility to make future trades.

Again this would probably be a trade made when the Bucks are on the clock so the Suns would know who is there.

There are good players available even in a weak draft if a team can spot them. IMO, this is a deep draft. Just not a lot of top talent available early.

 

[Yuma]

It makes sense if the Suns like a player that falls to that spot who may not make it to #32. It gives the Bucks more flexibility to make future trades.

Again this would probably be a trade made when the Bucks are on the clock so the Suns would know who is there.

There are good players available even in a weak draft if a team can spot them. IMO, this is a deep draft. Just not a lot of top talent available early.

I came away with that feeling that there are a lot of good jump shooters who will not get drafted this year. A team should be able to add a shot maker to the end of the bench this year.

 

[Mainstreet]

I came away with that feeling that there are a lot of good jump shooters who will not get drafted this year. A team should be able to add a shot maker to the end of the bench this year.

The Suns do seem to like Kyle Guy but he is projected to go later in the 2nd round.

He can shoot the lights out.

 

[Chaplin]

Some interesting stuff going on about Dinwiddie. Talking about the #6 and Warren or Jackson to Brooklyn for Dinwiddie, the #17 and maybe another prospect. Then we could package the #17 and #32 to move up to 10-14 to grab Clarke.