Suns @ Heat 2-25-19

[Hoop Head]

Why do all opposing Centers look like All-Star's against Ayton? There's something to that. A number of backups have had career games against him and then guys like Whiteside that have been All-Star's look like Hall of Famers.

 

[Mainstreet]

Four personal fouls on Booker.

 

[SunnyBaller]

Why do all opposing Centers look like All-Star's against Ayton? There's something to that. A number of backups have had career games against him and then guys like Whiteside that have been All-Star's look like Hall of Famers.

Just because I knew posts like this would be coming I've been keep track closely and only 8 pts from Whiteside are on ayton , the other nine are his teammates

 

[Hoop Head]

I don’t think I’ve ever seen Ayton jump to try to block a shot. It’s such a reflexive move for every other human that’s ever played the sport.

Tyson Chandler did the same while he was a Sun. I'm not sure if he ever jumped on defense in just over 3 seasons. That's part of why I didn't want him kept as a mentor for Ayton, I didn't see the positive since he was a shell of his former self. We kept him just long enough to teach Ayton bad habits during training camp, it seems.

 

[Finito]

I mean seriously is this how you evaluate all 5 year veterans, you watch them play 4 or 5 games and then claim that is who they are?

They have this thing called career statistics - and I will give you a hint - they do a very good job of telling you how good a player is.

He is 100% a better player than he was in his first few games with us, and he is 100% not as good as he played in his last game. It really is not that tough to know whether a player is performing at their normal standard when you have years of stats to review, which in Johnson's case are actually very close year to year.

Oh I’m sorry is he a good player? Did I miss this? Oh did the heat just trade us this stud for Ryan Anderson? Man what a job by James Jones stealing such a high quality player like Johnson for Anderson. I mean damn back court 2020 Johnson/Booker right, right guys?

Lillard/CJ
Curry/Klay
Paul/Harden
Johnson/Booker

Lol. Yeah I know who he is and he’s not good so you can stop that BS. I’d much rather play our rookie PG and give them minutes than a guy like Johnson who is pretty much who he’s gonna be at this point in his career.

 

[Hoop Head]

Just because I knew posts like this would be coming I've been keep track closely and only 8 pts from Whiteside are on ayton , the other nine are his teammates

Thank's for that. I just turned the game on and heard TC & Leander talking about Whiteside with Westphal and showed his shot chart. I assumed most was against Ayton but they didn't cover that and I didn't see it either.

Ayton has still been the starting Center for us against a number of teams that had their Center put up monster numbers. How much is on Ayton and others is questionable but I think his own line about how he's a good defender is a bit off.

 

[AzStevenCal]

I don’t think I’ve ever seen Ayton jump to try to block a shot. It’s such a reflexive move for every other human that’s ever played the sport.

I've seen him jump to block shots many teams but it's usually on a close out.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Four personal fouls on Booker.

He must have really pissed off the refs, the last two quick fouls were not worth a whistle. They are allowing a lot of contact so it's not at all consistent with what they've been calling IMO.

 

[Mainstreet]

The Suns have turned aggressive without Booker.

 

[Mainstreet]

He must have really pissed off the refs, the last two quick fouls were not worth a whistle. They are allowing a lot of contact so it's not at all consistent with what they've been calling IMO.

They are probably tired of hearing Booker complain.

 

[Mainstreet]

Tyler Johnson has 13 points, 4 assists, 1 steal and 0 turnovers thus far.

 

[AzStevenCal]

They are probably tired of hearing Booker complain.

It was probably for a specific reaction. Booker complains too much but so does most of the league and he's nowhere near the top IMO so I suspect he said something they didn't like.

 

[SunnyBaller]

Thank's for that. I just turned the game on and heard TC & Leander talking about Whiteside with Westphal and showed his shot chart. I assumed most was against Ayton but they didn't cover that and I didn't see it either.

Ayton has still been the starting Center for us against a number of teams that had their Center put up monster numbers. How much is on Ayton and others is questionable but I think his own line about how he's a good defender is a bit off.

That's exactly it, I'm not gonna claim he's a great defender because he has alot to learn but the opposing center numbers are not all on him, just want to put his defense in a better perspective, he's been ok tonight, good in this second half so far

 

[sunsfan88]

Whiteside is just owning Ayton.

 

[Mainstreet]

It was probably for a specific reaction. Booker complains too much but so does most of the league and he's nowhere near the top IMO so I suspect he said something they didn't like.

Whatever the reaction, I missed it. Booker has built up reputation of sorts around the league and it comes back to haunt him.

 

[Bufalay]

Accidentally staggering booker and aytons minutes has worked.

 

[Hoop Head]

I really like that court Miami has and their jerseys. Those have to be the best "City" jerseys that the NBA has put out.

 

[Mainstreet]

End of 3rd quarter:

Heat 87 - Suns 84

 

[slinslin]

Whiteside is just owning Ayton.

The hell you are talking about, Ayton has been owning in the third quarter.

Most of Whitesides production has come off of Ayton being forced to help on others and nobody picking up Whiteside or not being able to.

 

[Mainstreet]

Tyler is the only starter with a + (+/-). He has a +4.

 

[Mainstreet]

Daniels has been the Suns hidden weapon tonight.

 

[Hoop Head]

Daniels has been the Suns hidden weapon tonight.

Daniels should have been used more than he has. I know he doesn't bring a lot to the table but he's better than Crawford and if his shot is falling he can be a huge help extending the defense, if nothing else. We could have gotten something in a trade for him if we used him throughout January.

 

[Bufalay]

Daniels has been the Suns hidden weapon tonight.

He’s been consistently pretty good all year. I don’t get why his minutes have been so inconsistent. Even his defense has been passable.

 

[Mainstreet]

Daniels should have been used more than he has. I know he doesn't bring a lot to the table but he's better than Crawford and if his shot is falling he can be a huge help extending the defense, if nothing else. We could have gotten something in a trade for him if we used him throughout January.

He’s been consistently pretty good all year. I don’t get why his minutes have been so inconsistent. Even his defense has been passable.

I agree.

It's like the Suns do not know how to use Daniels. I'm surprised he wasn't traded.

 

[Bufalay]

Taurasi is killing us.