Suns hire Frank Vogel as next head coach

[RON_IN_OC]

Espo on PHX Suns Podcast on hiring Frank Vogel: "Some people wanted a Ferrari, we got a Honda Accord. That's good. It gets good mileage and it gets you where you need to go. It doesn't have to be flashy."

Was Kevin Young the Ferrari?

 

[AzStevenCal]

Yep, I mostly eat chicken and fish. Plus, the occasional filet mignon which is one of the leaner cuts of red meat.

I like to go to BJ's and have a ribeye steak every now and then. Obviously, it's not at all lean but it's delicious and I never do it more than twice a year. My favorite meal is a tossup between shredded beef tacos and spaghetti but I dream about them far more often than I eat them. I eat a Chicken Al Pastor bowl from Chipotle at least once a month but otherwise my normal routine is 2 or 3 ounces of grilled chicken 3 times a week a salmon filet 2 times a week and all my other meals are veggies or pinto beans.

 

[Yuma]

Was Kevin Young the Ferrari?

I think he meant guys like Tyron Lue and Steve Kerr.

 

[clyde2tw]

Locked on Suns Podcast brings this up, and said we would have to get him for our MLE, AND beg him by saying how nice it is in PHX, and playing with Book and Durant. Yes I totally agree that with his three point shooting we could spread the floor on offense and he would get great looks.

Not only 3pt shooting, he might be the best C to defend Jokic one-one as both are not that quick. His rim protection is also among the best in NBA. We also could reunite him with his twin Robin here for nice retirement location, 3 years down.

 

[Mainstreet]

Locked on Suns Podcast brings this up, and said we would have to get him for our MLE, AND beg him by saying how nice it is in PHX, and playing with Book and Durant. Yes I totally agree that with his three point shooting we could spread the floor on offense and he would get great looks.

I doubt the Suns are going to get Brook Lopez for the taxpayer MLE. Maybe he would consider the non-taxpayer MLE.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Just the fact that I think it's ridiculous that somebody nearly 50 years old isn't old enough to mentor anybody.

I think his point is that a 50 year old doesn’t typically mentor his successor in coaching because a 50 year old isn’t retiring anytime soon. The successor would have to wait 10 or more years if his mentor is successful.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I can totally see that how they structured the salaries. Maybe 2-3 years down the road Young takes over.

But why would a 49 year old coach with a championship to his name knowingly sign on for that duty?

 

[Yuma]

But why would a 49 year old coach with a championship to his name knowingly sign on for that duty?

Seriously, what coaches reach the end of their contracts anymore?

 

[Superbone]

Seriously, what coaches reach the end of their contracts anymore?

The very best ones. Pop, Spoelstra,...and I guess that's the end of the list.

 

[Covert Rain]

I think your GUESSES are a little out there but you've remarked a few times now about Book wanting Young as HC. Is that based on anything substantive or just a guess? I know they had a good relationship but so did Monty and Booker so I wouldn't read much into it. Just curious where that's coming from.

Gambo reported this and it was repeated on national radio immediately after the search began. Not sure where some posters got it from but it was reported from jump that Booker liked Young for the job.

 

[az jam]

If the Suns really do very well under Vogel, like win the NBA or at least get to the finals, Young will be a hot name around the league for any openings.

 

[Germz249]

Was Kevin Young the Ferrari?

If so then it sounds like we have a Honda Accord to get us to work Monday through Thursday and a Ferrari for Friday and the weekend lol.

Sounds like a perfect match to me.. Can't drive the GTR to work every day.. thats why I have the Prius lol.

 

[Mainstreet]

Oh, I see. I was talking about mentoring his replacement, as in, Young would take over in a year or two. Kind of like Cotton and Westphal.

This would be the ideal scenario. However, I'm not sure how the Suns would go about structuring the contracts.

Maybe options could be built into the contracts?

 

[Peter Sheldon]

If the Suns really do very well under Vogel, like win the NBA or at least get to the finals, Young will be a hot name around the league for any openings.

....but that's a good problem to have!

 

[AzStevenCal]

This would be the ideal scenario. However, I'm not sure how the Suns would go about structuring the contracts.

Maybe options could be built into the contracts?

I think there's been a misunderstanding here. I wasn't suggesting they'd done that, I was saying it's unlikely because that kind of situation usually involves a much older coach. I'd be okay if it happened. I just doubt that Vogel is at that stage in his career where he'd willingly take a job that by design came with an even shorter than usual shelf life.

 

[Mainstreet]

I think there's been a misunderstanding here. I wasn't suggesting they'd done that, I was saying it's unlikely because that kind of situation usually involves a much older coach. I'd be okay if it happened. I just doubt that Vogel is at that stage in his career where he'd willingly take a job that by design came with an even shorter than usual shelf life.

I understand. These were my thoughts.

There does seem to be some effort by the Suns to have their cake and eat it too by hiring Frank Vogel as the head coach and paying Kevin Young $2 million a season to be the associate head coach. They clearly want to keep him.

 

[BirdGangThing]

If the Suns really do very well under Vogel, like win the NBA or at least get to the finals, Young will be a hot name around the league for any openings.

If Young's offense is top notch he will be a hot name regardless - but it sure would be nice to make the Finals again

 

[Yuma]

I posted a link earlier to a podcast with a Lakers podcaster who says the sentiment of the Laker fans is that Vogel needs an offensive minded coach to compliment his defensive acumen. So the Suns have achieved what Laker fans wanted by pairing Vogel with an offense minded assistant.

 

[Ronin]

xc_hide_links_from_guests_guests_error_hide_media

 

[Covert Rain]

If Young's offense is top notch he will be a hot name regardless - but it sure would be nice to make the Finals again

You would think that teams would jump at the chance to hire him away from us. Having said that, rumor is they made him the highest paid assistant so maybe that was necessary to prevent him from jumping to another opportunity.

 

[Zobaczcie suki]

xc_hide_links_from_guests_guests_error_hide_media

 

[Yuma]

Windhorst: "CP3 will be a sun, not at $30 million, and he says they have other options than stretching him. Ayton will be on the Suns, and thinks Vogel got the job on how he would handle Ayton."

 

[Chaplin]

xc_hide_links_from_guests_guests_error_hide_media

This is one of the better videos I've seen about the situation. And Windhorst really loves Book.

 

[nashman]

Windhorst: "CP3 will be a sun, not at $30 million, and he says they have other options than stretching him. Ayton will be on the Suns, and thinks Vogel got the job on how he would handle Ayton."

Little discouraged, not sure how you’re gonna fill out a roster if you keep DA and Paul. DA is what he is at this point I don’t think a different coach is all of a sudden gonna make him aggressive and not lazy and lackadaisical! I hope I’m wrong but just running back the same team seems… we’ll just stupid at this point! We need gaurd depth and bigs that actually play big!

 

[Yuma]

Little discouraged, not sure how you’re gonna fill out a roster if you keep DA and Paul. DA is what he is at this point I don’t think a different coach is all of a sudden gonna make him aggressive and not lazy and lackadaisical! I hope I’m wrong but just running back the same team seems… we’ll just stupid at this point! We need gaurd depth and bigs that actually play big!

I am thinking Windhorst brought up not paying Paul $30 million to add to their ability to bring guys in.