Suns interested in Barry

[slinslin]

Nelson also always took special care of Nash not to play him too many minutes so he wouldn't break down at the end of the season again.

Nash is either injury prone or not durable enough to play really big time minutes.

 

[Mainstreet]

Originally posted by Scotsman13

it was michael finley. just a little bit bette player then barry

What can I say. When the Suns are good they're very good. I really liked Michael Finley. A really great find.

I do, however, think Brent Barry would have had a much better career if he had been drafted by Phoenix... the right fit for the right team.

 

[George O'Brien]

Barry struggled when he was with the Clippers but really picked it up in recent years.

I'm curious about the claim that Barry has had a lot of injuries. He was injured this past season, but still came back and put up some very nice numbers. He played

03-04 59 games
02-03 75 games
01-02 81 games
00-01 67 games
99-01 80 games

 

[slinslin]

The best-case scenario for Casey Jacobsen IMO is that he turns out to be another Brent Barry, but he's got a ways to improve yet before the comparison makes much sense.

Casey has plans to participate in the dunk contest anytime soon?

 

[Biclops]

Can anyone who say Barry play tell me how he is as a PG?

Does he run the half court well?

Does he run the break well?

I am for all for having Barry. Having a 6-6 PG with the ability to shoot from the outside will be more important as Amare starts dominating the low post.

In the future, even if Barbosa or Vujanic takes over the PG position... I believe Barry can easily fill in as the 6th man playing both guard position

 

[George O'Brien]

Can anyone who say Barry play tell me how he is as a PG?

Does he run the half court well?

Does he run the break well?

I am for all for having Barry. Having a 6-6 PG with the ability to shoot from the outside will be more important as Amare starts dominating the low post.

In the future, even if Barbosa or Vujanic takes over the PG position... I believe Barry can easily fill in as the 6th man playing both guard position

One of the advantages of having a guy who is a pure shooter is longevity. Guys like Steve Kerr and Reggie Miller can play for ever because there is always a place for a great shooter.

If three years from now Barbosa is ready to become THE guy at PG, somehow I think Barry would still get his minutes.

 

[slinslin]

What intention would Barry have to come here to be the 6th man for a team than has won less than 30 games last season and doesn't seem prepared to make any major deals.

 

[Biclops]

I do not know what Barry is looking for in a team but if we offer a
four year deal starting at a mid-level exception he might be willing to sign with
us

Barry would not be the six man... at least for now. I woud like for him to start for at least 2-3 years until Barbosa or Vujanic is ready to take over the PG duty. I hope at that age he would be happy to come off the bench as either PG or SG.

 

[George O'Brien]

What intention would Barry have to come here to be the 6th man for a team than has won less than 30 games last season and doesn't seem prepared to make any major deals.

Besides getting more money?

Objectively I think he sees what most of us see - a young team with an emerging superstar and some other strong pieces. In 2002-03 the Suns went to the playoffs when Amare was only a rookie and if he had been healthy the Suns would have been in the hunt. If someone wanted to bet on the team with the best chance of making the biggest jump in the standings, the Suns would be a possible pick.

Obviously it would take convincing him they really want him, but joining the core of team that my be taking off could be pretty attractive.

 

[Dylan]

I think Barry has the right mindset for a shooter. Cool, confident, will kill you with the dagger shot. Always liked him. Handles the ball real well. Takes it to the hoop. Excellent instincts. Ice in his veins.

I think he would be perfect for the Suns. Try a zone on him and he'll kill you overhead or take it right through.

Every team needs one. Rather have him than Okur. With Barry, you know what you are going to get.. and you will get it.

 

[George O'Brien]

I think Barry has the right mindset for a shooter. Cool, confident, will kill you with the dagger shot. Always liked him. Handles the ball real well. Takes it to the hoop. Excellent instincts. Ice in his veins.

I think he would be perfect for the Suns. Try a zone on him and he'll kill you overhead or take it right through.

Every team needs one. Rather have him than Okur. With Barry, you know what you are going to get.. and you will get it.

One of the interesting things about Barry is that he is willing to take a backseat to other stars for the good of the team. He played several years with Payton and then with Ray Allen. Those guys took the shots, but he fed them the ball and forced opponents to play him tight to open up PaytonAllen and Lewis.

If I was running the Suns, I would run more plays designed to get Barry the shot in the same way the Pacers do with Reggie Miller. In any case, the Suns tend to create a lot of open looks for the PG because of the having guys who are threats to got to the basket. Eisley kept getting into trouble because he was constantly being tempted to take long jumpers, which he rarely hit. Barbosa shot 40% for three because teams were more concerned about Amare, Shawn, and JJ going to the basket.

 

[Dylan]

One of the interesting things about Barry is that he is willing to take a backseat to other stars for the good of the team. He played several years with Payton and then with Ray Allen. Those guys took the shots, but he fed them the ball and forced opponents to play him tight to open up PaytonAllen and Lewis.

If I was running the Suns, I would run more plays designed to get Barry the shot in the same way the Pacers do with Reggie Miller. In any case, the Suns tend to create a lot of open looks for the PG because of the having guys who are threats to got to the basket. Eisley kept getting into trouble because he was constantly being tempted to take long jumpers, which he rarely hit. Barbosa shot 40% for three because teams were more concerned about Amare, Shawn, and JJ going to the basket.

Exactly. Even though he is a PG, and he does that well, when I think of Barry I think of a guy that if you let him have a clear shot, with his height, and he is playing against you, you see him get the ball and be open and you say 'Oh no!'

So if you can create the looks for him, he can change a game.

As you said, he will defer, but he will take that shot when it is there.

 

[Joe Mama]

What intention would Barry have to come here to be the 6th man for a team than has won less than 30 games last season and doesn't seem prepared to make any major deals.

well, I don't think and very would be a sixth man here, but I agree that it would be a difficult recruiting job for the Colangeli. There will be several teams that fared much better last season who will be hot after him. I think San Antonio is going to make a major push for him. Of course if they re-sign Ginobili that would leave Barry as the sixth man because I believe Manu will expect to start.

The biggest concerns about signing Brent Barry would be his age and his health. He is 33 years old and missed 23 games last season. Over the last five seasons he has missed an average of 10 games per season.

Joe Mama

 

[Biclops]

I am more worried about his health than age

He will be a great addition for us if he can stay someonewhat healthy

Can anyone tell me how he missed 23 games last year?
Is that injury okay now? Does he need surgery? Did he get surgery?

Brent Barry might be 33 but I like how George O'Brien said one of the advantages of having a guy who is a pure shooter is longevity. Even if he gets old, as long as he is healthy, he will always make the defense pay for leaving him open.

Hopefully by the time Barry is 36 or 37, Barbosa will be taking over the PG spot and Barry will be the designated back up.

 

[coloradosun]

Brent Barry over the last 5 years

I think it was an ankle just like Amare.


Just looked up some stats, since B Barry has been with Sonic(5 years)
he has averaged

72 games a year
47% from the field
44% from 3pt
82% from the line
4.6 assists
1.3 steals

That's over the last five years and the final one at point guard.

He and Wally Szerbiak were the only players in the league to shoot over 50% from the field last year.

Not bad for an old man.

 

[Biclops]

Last season, he only played 59 games but averaged...

PPG 10.8
RPG 3.5
APG 5.8 (His career high as 16 assists against Milwakee)
SPG 1.44
TO 2.36

FG% .504
3P% .452 (Ranked #2 in the NBA!!)
FT% .827

He also got selected as 2003-2004 NBA All-Interview Team

These numbers are nothing flashy (excepting for his shooting percentage...Wow) but he is someone I think that could stablize the PG position and definately help the Suns

 

[George O'Brien]

Last season, he only played 59 games but averaged...

PPG 10.8
RPG 3.5
APG 5.8 (His career high as 16 assists against Milwakee)
SPG 1.44
TO 2.36

FG% .504
3P% .452 (Ranked #2 in the NBA!!)
FT% .827

He also got selected as 2003-2004 NBA All-Interview Team

These numbers are nothing flashy (excepting for his shooting percentage...Wow) but he is someone I think that could stablize the PG position and definately help the Suns

If he ends up on the bench in two years because he slows down, he is still going to be a big threat. By contrast, as Nash slows down his value will drop dramatically since he is not big enough to play the SG slot.

 

[coloradosun]

That's a very good point. Jon Barry has been a very good sixth man and I think the team mentality is built in to their wiring, I'm sure that Brent could be just as valuable off the bench in a year or two. Steve Kerr made a career of making key shots coming off the bench in his later years.With he and JJ in the backcourt together you actually have two SPG's (Shooting Point Guards) with long wingspans which can be huge benefit on defense.

The "All Interview Team" speaks volumes about his importance in the lockerroom, I think that also sayes a lot about his leadership.