Suns make late Love-Bledsoe offer

[PDXChris]

With just hours to go before a planned megadeal the would send Kevin Love to Cleveland, the Phoenix Suns reached out to the Minnesota Timberwolves on Thursday to ask once more about the possibility of acquiring Love in a sign-and-trade for guard Eric Bledsoe, sources told ESPN.com.

DO IT!! I don't want him going to Cleveland.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/1...ledsoe-minnesota-timberwolves-kevin-love-deal

 

[Azlen]

This really doesn't make a whole lot of sense. I wonder if it came from Bledsoe's agent as a way to make the Suns look stupid.

 

[Shaggy]

Doubt it even comes close to happening. Is the deal down tomorrow?

 

[elindholm]

This really doesn't make a whole lot of sense. I wonder if it came from Bledsoe's agent as a way to make the Suns look stupid.

Maybe. Obviously the Wolves have made a deal they're comfortable with, and Bledsoe isn't a better offer than what they're getting. This looks pretty dumb.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Maybe. Obviously the Wolves have made a deal they're comfortable with, and Bledsoe isn't a better offer than what they're getting. This looks pretty dumb.

this looks really stupid on our part if true.

 

[Ronin]

DO IT!! I don't want him going to Cleveland.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/1...ledsoe-minnesota-timberwolves-kevin-love-deal

Man if we end up with Kyrie Irving in return....I'm going to be very upset.

whoops I thought the Suns were involved in the PHI/CLE/Minn trade

 

[BC867]

this looks really stupid on our part if true.

'An empty move by the Suns to make it look like are trying to bring a front court superstar to Phoenix? With nothing to lose. Except to illustrate to the league and fans alike that we have a dysfunctional roster.

 

[Mainstreet]

I don't the Suns would throw this out there again at the last minute unless there were some more moving parts. Still think the Suns might be trying to expand the trade, not undo it.

 

[Azlen]

I'm sure there's probably more to the story than is being reported. I have a hard time believing that anybody associated with the Suns thought they wouldn't be laughed at with this offer. There has to be something more going on.

 

[Iceman]

I love how the suns are at least in the mix of stirring a bunch of things up. The lebron thing (which was probably not even an option for lebron) and now this. Might as well give it a shot!

 

[unseenaz]

Let love go to the cavs, we get wiggins, the twolves get
Bledsoe and who ever else they originally were getting from the cavs

 

[elindholm]

Let love go to the cavs, we get wiggins, the twolves get
Bledsoe and who ever else they originally were getting from the cavs

Why would the Wolves prefer Bledsoe to Wiggins?

 

[JCSunsfan]

'An empty move by the Suns to make it look like are trying to bring a front court superstar to Phoenix? With nothing to lose. Except to illustrate to the league and fans alike that we have a dysfunctional roster.

Please. This roster is not dysfunctional.

They are showing Bledsoe that they are trying everything. Eric thinks he is all that. But Minnesota would not take him over a rookie with no guarantee of performance but potential.

Hard for Eric to say he is a supermax player when a team will take a rookie over him.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Why would the Wolves prefer Bledsoe to Wiggins?

That is the point that Bledsoe needs to understand. If the Cavs have a choice between giving up Kyrie or Wiggins, they give up Wiggins. If Minny has a choice between receiving Kyrie, Bledsoe, or Wiggins, they take Wiggins. There you go Eric. There is your market value.

This is not a real offer, it is a statement.

If it WAS a real offer, I think a deal where Love and Bledsoe ended up in Cleveland, Kyrie goes to Minny, and Wiggins to Phoenix would be just fine. I would give up picks to go along with it all.

 

[Errntknght]

I don't think Minnie sees Rubio as a problem like most of us do. They'd probably be more than willing to trade him straight up for Bledsoe if the latter wasn't demanding the max. Suppose we did offer enough to entice the Wolves - Warren, Goodwin and Markieff, say, - it would just give Love another chance to say he wouldn't sign with us. Well, they probably thought it would show Eric we're trying to work a deal for him.

 

[JCSunsfan]

If Bledsoe takes the QO, he is stupid. It is really hard to negotiate with stupid.

 

[Shaggy]

So basically, with the QO, he gets $3.7 mill for this year rather then the 4 year $48 mill, which turns into $12 mill a year? Of course he is stupid if he takes the QO, but it sounds like he is going to if this trade deal doesn't work out.

 

[PDXChris]

If Bledsoe takes the QO, he is stupid. It is really hard to negotiate with stupid.

Ben Gordon did the same thing with the Bulls made a lot more money with Detroit the following year than he would have in Chicago. It is a risk, but can work out, so to call it stupid at this point of the game is short sighted.

 

[PDXChris]

So basically, with the QO, he gets $3.7 mill for this year rather then the 4 year $48 mill, which turns into $12 mill a year? Of course he is stupid if he takes the QO, but it sounds like he is going to if this trade deal doesn't work out.

If he gets a max or near max deal next summer, how is he stupid? He makes up most of the difference in the first year.

 

[Shaggy]

Well he is betting that he will do better and not get hurt. If he gets hurt, no one will want him for max or even what phx offered him.

 

[Cheesebeef]

If he gets a max or near max deal next summer, how is he stupid? He makes up most of the difference in the first year.

yup... and I can almost guarantee you that if he stays relatively healthy, the Lakers are going to throw the max at him.

 

[Shaggy]

He was hurt most of the season and when he did play he played well, yet he has no other offers at max and what makes him think it will be different next year? He's going to be taking a huge risk and he could lose money come next year.

 

[Cheesebeef]

He was hurt most of the season and when he did play he played well, yet he has no other offers at max and what makes him think it will be different next year? He's going to be taking a huge risk and he could lose money come next year.

it is a huge risk, but the reward could be much greater. if he gets through the season unscathed, he's probably one of the top 3 unrestricted FA on the market.

 

[JCSunsfan]

If he gets a max or near max deal next summer, how is he stupid? He makes up most of the difference in the first year.

Not sure how your math works. He loses $8.3 million this year (and that based on a 12 mil per year offer. The Suns frontloaded the deal so it is actually more. He can also negotiate up another million or so a year.)

Next year, he can sign a max contract starting at 15 million for four years. He does not make what he loses this year until he is three quarters of the way through the next deal. Plus, if he really believes in himself, it takes him an extra year to get to the next level of free agency. So, he doesn't get his absolute max payday until he is 29 instead of 28. With his injury history, that could cost him alot--especially since he can mitigate most of that risk by negotiating it up with the Suns now.

Taking the QO is stupid. There is just no other way around it.

 

[elindholm]

Commenter on the ESPN article for this: "I heard Jessica Alba was married but just thought I'd propose anyway."