Suns @ Mavericks Sunday game thread 3-5-2023

[clyde2tw]

He was yelling that it should have been an offensive foul. Which is correct.

yeah, Okogie gave him fits all game long. He was shoving with his off arm in this case, just as he did in the previous one, originally called offensive fouls which Mavs challenged with success.

 

[Muggz]

That’s not what he did though. He yelled at the ref for not calling an obvious foul. Luka got his feelings hurt for Book suggesting he did something wrong. That’s not on Book. That’s Luka being a whiny little $&@“ again.

Book said " could you call one of those 2 fouls please?"

 

[Phrazbit]

Luke, 8-23, 4 assists, 5 turnovers... 19 FT attempts.

We certainly made him work for it.

 

[GatorAZ]

Honest question. Is Terrence Ross above average at any aspect of basketball?

 

[leclerc]

Well, if we're axing him because of Ayton's bad habit of mentally checking out, that seems like blame.

If they feel like going a new direction, whatever, go for it, but if we're going to axe people until Ayton learns how to stay motivated, I expect heads to perpetually roll.

I think he is who he is.

Thrilled he checked back into this game though.

If they axe Monty (I like the dude, but we need a better coach) it's not just for Ayton, it's for the lack of adjustments. That's in my opinion at least. Suns have been lousy with big man coaching for years.

 

[Muggz]

Luka needs someone to punch him in the face or upend him on a lay up. **** that clown

Pass a can around, I'm available but not cheap.
There is a nice Luka discount running atm.

 

[Mainstreet]

Who would think Ish Wainright would be the difference maker going 4-5 from three for 12 points.

 

[BirdGangThing]

Who would think Ish Wainright would be the difference maker going 4-5 from three for 12 points.

So clutch!

 

[leclerc]

Man watching Durant hit that jumper gave me flashbacks to watching dirk for all those years. Such a sweet closer, that is a gift to have that ability to close games like that. Luka missed a shot he should have made and now has to stew in it. Love the Booker/Luka feud. This is exactly what basketball needs. Great score line, every time I checked the score it seemed like it was tied. Hope they meet in the playoffs again.

Yeah but I have nightmares from time to time from last year, where Chris and Booker look at each other and say take what the defense gives you, and that lit a fire in Luka and then the Suns went down quickly and really ugly.

 

[Absolute Zero]

Again, give Okogie some credit for causing Luka to miss that layup.

I didn't realize Okogie was in. Ran out to the car on the break and didn't get back in time.

 

[Finito]

Well, if we're axing him because of Ayton's bad habit of mentally checking out, that seems like blame.

If they feel like going a new direction, whatever, go for it, but if we're going to axe people until Ayton learns how to stay motivated, I expect heads to perpetually roll.

I think he is who he is.

Thrilled he checked back into this game though.

You’re not letting Monty go because of Ayton. If you’re trying to say Ayton is a coach killer I don’t think anyone here would agree with that.

Monty’s problem is he can’t make adjustments. He gets stuck in his ways and has no idea how to get out of his own way at times.

 

[Phrazbit]

Honest question. Is Terrence Ross above average at any aspect of basketball?

He's a decent outside shooter and great athlete... but he didn't get waived because he's a stud.

 

[BirdGangThing]

Lakers (without Lebron) throttling the warriors (with Curry) early

 

[Phrazbit]

You’re not letting Monty go because of Ayton. If you’re trying to say Ayton is a coach killer I don’t think anyone here would agree with that.

Monty’s problem is he can’t make adjustments. He gets stuck in his ways and has no idea how to get out of his own way at times.

If they axe Monty (I like the dude, but we need a better coach) it's not just for Ayton, it's for the lack of adjustments. That's in my opinion at least. Suns have been lousy with big man coaching for years.

Not talking about Monty in that post. Chap and I were talking about Mark Bryant.

 

[clyde2tw]

Honest question. Is Terrence Ross above average at any aspect of basketball?

Ross has bad habits on D, just as DA does, vulnerable for foul calls. He is good at shooting open 3s, better than other subs

 

[Mainstreet]

Some interesting stats on Booker and Durant.

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[leclerc]

Ross is like Warren. He gives you scoring off the bench. Okogie is a stud. He plays hard and he plays defense. I think he gives us more than Craig and others (Ish, I love you man), but if he's being left alone and can't hit the 3 coach Monty needs to make a substitution. I think he fits well with the starting lineup. He brings toughness and defense and he's been great the previous 8 games or something. Hope he forgets this one quick and keeps practicing the corner 3's. They should all practice hitting open 3's LOL.

 

[TJ]

Luke, 8-23, 4 assists, 5 turnovers... 19 FT attempts.

We certainly made him work for it.

Yeah this is something we couldn’t do with Mikal.

 

[leclerc]

Not talking about Monty in that post. Chap and I were talking about Mark Bryant.

OK, sorry, I missed that one. Still think the big man coaching should be improved. Ayton is a specimen and needs proper coaching, both basketball and mentally.

 

[Mainstreet]

Ayton wasn't allowed to touch anyone today but still made a huge shot down the stretch.

 

[Phrazbit]

Yeah this is something we couldn’t do with Mikal.

Luka has actually shot comparatively poorly against us during his career. The issue has been, as it was today, that the only team in the NBA he averages more FT attempts against per game, is the Clippers.

EDIT: Actually... after today, it's probably us who allow him the most FT per game.

 

[TJ]

If they axe Monty (I like the dude, but we need a better coach) it's not just for Ayton, it's for the lack of adjustments. That's in my opinion at least. Suns have been lousy with big man coaching for years.

Bryant has done well in helping Ayton with some of the touch shots around the rim making him look like Hakeem in that respect. However, he hasn’t developed his game beyond that. Bryant wasn’t an outside shooter in the NBA, and I think Ayton wants more perimeter touches. So how could Mark Bryan be the best coach for him?

People can use words like “want,” “engagement,” and other mentalistic terms to try and discount Ayton, but the organization has not done a great job in trying to unlock his full potential.

 

[TJ]

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He missed the shot, but this is dog **** that he didn’t get called for the push off

 

[BirdGangThing]

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He missed the shot, but this is dog **** that he didn’t get called for the push off

That's what Booker was telling the ref and that's what pissed the man baby off

 

[leclerc]

I know Luka is a sore loser and this probably ruined his day.

Thanks guys! Great game, I'm calling it a night.