Suns Off-season Thread

[Covert Rain]

Credit to Flex man he really hit a home run here

It's more like he got on base because he was walked by the pitcher but sure go with that.

 

[Proximo]

Durant will be 34 in 3 months and there are health risks that go along with that. Ayton, Cam and 2 picks is more than fair. I wouldn't give up more than that.

Have to give up other players to make salaries work.

Durant is at about 44 mil

Ayton will be around 30
Mikal is 20
Payne is 6
Craig is 5
So that is a total of 61

So if that is the deal the other player(s) we get back would be about 17/18 - and Harris makes 18 - so that is probably the guy - if it is one guy.

 

[Covert Rain]

If anyone wants to watch a wrap-up on the Suns today here is a link to a PHNX Sports podcast.

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Pretty solid breakdown.

 

[Phrazbit]

If Durant holds the cards and if we really are his top choice, I'm doing everything I can to keep Bridges out of the trade. Toss in an extra couple years of pick swaps or something.

 

[Covert Rain]

If Durant holds the cards and if we really are his top choice, I'm doing everything I can to keep Bridges out of the trade. Toss in an extra couple years of pick swaps or something.

I heard on the radio today Durant is the first Superstar to be traded in a long time that didn't have a no trade clause, someone who had a long tenure or won titles before demanding a trade. They were saying aside from this being a player's league and Durant being Durant he doesn't exactly have the same leverage in the way other Superstars in the past have had.

Not sure if I buy it because it is a player's league, but I get what they are saying.

 

[Proximo]

If Durant holds the cards and if we really are his top choice, I'm doing everything I can to keep Bridges out of the trade. Toss in an extra couple years of pick swaps or something.

I agree, but I have a bad feeling they will demand him.

 

[Mainstreet]

Pretty solid breakdown.

Those trades leave me thinking about who the Suns can sign for the veteran minimum.

 

[Covert Rain]

Those trades leave me thinking about who can the Suns sign for the veteran minimum.

What about the MLE?

 

[Mainstreet]

I agree, but I have a bad feeling they will demand him.

I don't see how the Suns can keep Bridges out of those proposed trades.

 

[Mainstreet]

What about the MLE?

The taxpayer MLE is about $6,149,000. They still have it.

 

[Covert Rain]

The taxpayer MLE is about $6,149,000. They still have it.

No I know. I was piggy backing off of what you said. I am curious to see who they can still get for the MLE. It might be critical to round out the roster.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Have to give up other players to make salaries work.

Durant is at about 44 mil

Ayton will be around 30
Mikal is 20
Payne is 6
Craig is 5
So that is a total of 61

So if that is the deal the other player(s) we get back would be about 17/18 - and Harris makes 18 - so that is probably the guy - if it is one guy.

What ever happened to Ayton can’t be signed and traded with other guys? I thought that was the word like three days ago.

 

[Mainstreet]

No I know. I was piggy backing off of what you said. I am curious to see who they can still get for the MLE. It might be critical to round out the roster.

Let's hope the other teams have overspent.

 

[Phrazbit]

What ever happened to Ayton can’t be signed and traded with other guys? I thought that was the word like three days ago.

I don't believe that has ever been the case. I know someone was saying that but I couldn't recall that ever being a thing. Jimmy Butler's sign and trade to Miami involved 4 teams and like 20 players.

 

[Finito]

I don't believe that has ever been the case. I know someone was saying that but I couldn't recall that ever being a thing. Jimmy Butler's sign and trade to Miami involved 4 teams and like 20 players.

That’s what I thought

He can’t be combined with a player and we can only take back 19 million in a S&T with Ayton

 

[Mainstreet]

Who would dream the Suns have control of all their future draft picks... possibly 4 first round picks available for trade.

It was not an accident.

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[Covert Rain]

What ever happened to Ayton can’t be signed and traded with other guys? I thought that was the word like three days ago.

I have heard so many conflicting things on this I can't keep track. We need a sign and trade expert. I thought we could only take 19 million back but I think that is if one team is involved. I don't know. LOL.

 

[GatorAZ]

Interesting. Flex still feeling real good. He is saying KD is the one holding the power.

He is still saying deal is likely just one of Cam or Mikal, Deyandre, craig and Payne and 2 firsts. Says DA may go directly or to a 3rd team, and suns may also get one additional player back.

Brooklyn holds the power not KD. When Kawhi and AD demanded trades they could dictate their destinations because the team had to get something before they walked. A player forcing his way out with 4 years left is unprecedented. Also it’s not like KD won a championship or has good Will built up in Brooklyn. They will take their time and get the best deal possible.

 

[Mainstreet]

Brooklyn holds the power not KD. When Kawhi and AD demanded trades they could dictate their destinations because the team had to get something before they walked. A player forcing his way out with 4 years left is unprecedented. Also it’s not like KD won a championship or has good Will built up in Brooklyn. They will take their time and get the best deal possible.

At a certain point teams are going to move on. The Nets do face the risk of last team standing for the best trade.

 

[GatorAZ]

At a certain point teams are going to move on. The Nets do face the risk of last team standing for the best trade.

This is going to be a process. The Nets have to move Kyrie to get under the hard cap before moving KD. Woj said even bad teams will overpay because it’s KD. Again if KD had a no-trade clause or was a Brooklyn legend maybe he’d be able to dictate his destination.

 

[Covert Rain]

Who would dream the Suns have control of all their future draft picks... possibly 4 first round picks available for trade.

It was not an accident.

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The Suns have signaled since James Jones got here they won't hesitate to trade draft picks if it gives them a player they want. Another example is this draft. They easily could have traded future picks and didn't blink. Likely because they thought they would need them because of where they are at in the salary cap (needing options).

 

[Mainstreet]

This is going to be a process. The Nets have to move Kyrie to get under the hard cap before moving KD. Woj said even bad teams will overpay because it’s KD. Again if KD had a no-trade clause or was a Brooklyn legend maybe he’d be able to dictate his destination.

Only saying this will be a battle of attrition as time goes on.

 

[Cheesebeef]

This is going to be a process. The Nets have to move Kyrie to get under the hard cap before moving KD. Woj said even bad teams will overpay because it’s KD. Again if KD had a no-trade clause or was a Brooklyn legend maybe he’d be able to dictate his destination.

He really hasn’t done anything for that team to bend over any more than they already have.

Then again, he could just go Ben Simmons on them.

 

[Proximo]

Pretty solid breakdown.

I'm not as enthusiastic with that 3 way as they are.

We have no wings left if we make that deal. We would end up with Craig and Wainright getting big minutes or something.

 

[Germz249]

Man sucks Mcgee signed with the Mavs..