Suns offering blake griffin 4 years $130m

[SirStefan32]

If the medical staff signs off on this, I am all for this. They were right about Amare, and I trust them on Blake.

 

[hsandhu]

Sarver didn't even have faith in our training staff in 2010.

You're the only person Ive seen arguing signing ama

I've been a tank guy for a few years. But I think I like this deal. If he comes for 4 years I think it works.

It makes us relevant again in a national stage.

Blake, Jackson, chriss give us three high flyers. And bookers brilliance likely means lots of highlights. Again, relevance. More appealing to other FAs.

There are 96 minutes at the power positions to likely divide 4 ways:
Blake - 30-33
Chriss - 25-30
Bender - 15-20
Tyson/Len/williams - 13- 26
I don't see that stunting anyone's growth.

Blake is a high level starter for 2 or 3 years and then becomes an enviable backup who can get buckets with the second squad when our young guns are peaking.

We have a ton of young talent. There's no need to tank. And if the young guys start to learn to win, that's a bonus. If they make the playoffs, that's gravy. If they don't, we add a bit more lottery talent.

But just no on Aldridge or millsap. Too old.

Agreed with most of what you said, but len will be gone if they sign griffin, which is fine.

I break it down as len for 5 years at 70 or blake at 4 years for 130, I'll take blake.

I would still like to keep alan williams, but it would be tough unless they move knight, Chandler or dudley... since we don't have Alans bird rights, early bird will only get him like 5 million as starting salary.

 

[Matt L]

More often than not, these guys take the most money they can get, which in this case will be the Clippers at $175 million. I hope they do sign him but I would be very surprised if he doesn't receive (and sign) the max from the Clippers.

 

[JCSunsfan]

More often than not, these guys take the most money they can get, which in this case will be the Clippers at $175 million. I hope they do sign him but I would be very surprised if he doesn't receive (and sign) the max from the Clippers.

I don't think the Clippers are going to offer him the max.

 

[Matt L]

I don't think the Clippers are going to offer him the max.

If that's the case, I guess it would come down to his preference and fit. I am pretty sure he gave these four cities, New York, Boston, Toronto and Phoenix. Won reported Boston is targeting Griffin. Knicks are kind of a mess right now and I can't say that I actually follow the Raptors to give any prediction on if they will get involved or not. My gut says if all things are equal he would choose Boston. That said, he probably takes whichever deal that gives him the greatest security, 4 years, guaranteed, no team options.

 

[outcent13]

Chriss came on the draft special on ktar and stated matter of factly that he was told he will be playing the five spot.

This would be a solid pickup that puts the suns in the top five in the west in my opinion . Athletic team with a chippy personality.

 

[3rdside]

Chriss came on the draft special on ktar and stated matter of factly that he was told he will be playing the five spot.

This would be a solid pickup that puts the suns in the top five in the west in my opinion . Athletic team with a chippy personality.

A little too chippy maybe - griffin as a locker room leader is a locker room i'd worry about.


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[mojorizen7]

I'm not the only one who thinks it's a bad idea.

You're right. It's a bad idea.

 

[Errntknght]

Pro seems to be somewhat ahead but there's a solid anti bloc...

 

[sunsfan88]

You're the only person Ive seen arguing signing ama

I didn't have a problem with not signing Amare even though in hindsight I would MUCH rather have injured Amare than the trio of Childress, Warrick and Turkoglu any day of the week.

Even now I think not signing Amare was ultimately the right move.

That said...my point is that if Sarver wasn't willing to pay Amare then, it makes zero sense why he would be willing to play Griffin now.

 

[sunsfan88]

Chriss came on the draft special on ktar and stated matter of factly that he was told he will be playing the five spot.

This would be a solid pickup that puts the suns in the top five in the west in my opinion . Athletic team with a chippy personality.

Suns have a chance to be the worst rebounding team in NBA history (iirc the suns might have the current record on that too) next season if Chriss is going to play extensive mins at the 5 because he is a piss poor rebounder. There's probably a better chance of the 5'8 Tyler Ulis grabbing an important rebound in a game than there is of Chriss.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Chriss came on the draft special on ktar and stated matter of factly that he was told he will be playing the five spot.

This would be a solid pickup that puts the suns in the top five in the west in my opinion . Athletic team with a chippy personality.

He said tThat he would play some minutes at the five. Not that it would be his primary position.

 

[Folster]

Has anybody considered that landing Griffin could prompt McDonough to drastically expedite the timeline. There are talks of Paul George being open to extending in places like Boston and Cleveland and now there are rumors of the Wizards trying to work a Otto Porter sign and trade for him.

If we land Griffin, does McDonough make that call to Indy? We have the assets to land George. If we had assurances that he would extend with us, do you do it?

Bledsoe, Booker, George, Griffin, Chandler.

I'd imagine we'd have to give up one of Bender and Chriss, and one of Warren and Jackson and possibly picks. We'd be cashing in a lot of chips much like the Celts did when they added KG and Allen.

Do you pull the trigger?

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Has anybody considered that landing Griffin could prompt McDonough to drastically expedite the timeline. There are talks of Paul George being open to extending in places like Boston and Cleveland and now there are rumors of the Wizards trying to work a Otto Porter sign and trade for him.

If we land Griffin, does McDonough make that call to Indy? We have the assets to land George. If we had assurances that he would extend with us, do you do it?

Bledsoe, Booker, George, Griffin, Chandler.

I'd imagine we'd have to give up one of Bender and Chriss, and one of Warren and Jackson and possibly picks. We'd be cashing in a lot of chips much like the Celts did when they added KG and Allen.

Do you pull the trigger?

I look at it as, would that team compete with the warriors? Here's my thoughts:

Curry >>>>>>>> Bledsoe
Booker >> klay (recognizing klay is better defensively, but I think Booker is just scratching surface and will improve at greater rate than klay)
Durant >> George
Griffin = green
Centers are stiffs on both sides if bender doesn't develop
Benches favors theire short term and ours long term due to age

So I don't see us getting over on the Warriors with that team. Pre-Durant to warriors I think I do it, but in the current environment I don't think so.

 

[devilalum]

I look at it as, would that team compete with the warriors? Here's my thoughts:

Curry >>>>>>>> Bledsoe
Booker >> klay (recognizing klay is better defensively, but I think Booker is just scratching surface and will improve at greater rate than klay)
Durant >> George
Griffin = green
Centers are stiffs on both sides if bender doesn't develop
Benches favors theire short term and ours long term due to age

So I don't see us getting over on the Warriors with that team. Pre-Durant to warriors I think I do it, but in the current environment I don't think so.

Nobody's beating the Warriors for the next couple of years unless they have an injury to one of their big 4. Even then it would depend. IMO Griffin gets the Suns into the playoff mix. Then in 3 or 4 years when the kids are peaking and the Warriors are breaking down............

 

[overseascardfan]

I wonder if Blake tells PHX that they need to acquire his boy DJ if they want to sign him, remember rumor was LAC were interested in #4 pick for DJ supposedly.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Nobody's beating the Warriors for the next couple of years unless they have an injury to one of their big 4. Even then it would depend. IMO Griffin gets the Suns into the playoff mix. Then in 3 or 4 years when the kids are peaking and the Warriors are breaking down............

Teams that seem to be locks for years to come can turn south pretty quickly. Its amazing how often it happens. Once key injury, one wrong personnel tweak, and it can all change.

Keep charging ahead.

 

[elindholm]

Bledsoe, Booker, George, Griffin, Chandler.

I'd imagine we'd have to give up one of Bender and Chriss, and one of Warren and Jackson and possibly picks. We'd be cashing in a lot of chips much like the Celts did when they added KG and Allen.

Do you pull the trigger?

Not interested. That's a "very good" lineup with no top-five player (probably not even a top-ten player). Teams that look like that very rarely turn out to be contenders.

 

[iRobot]

I don't get why people are all about a rush to get back into the playoffs. We have something brewing here with this youth that could put us in the playoffs every year if we just ride the wave and build it right.

 

[JCSunsfan]

I don't get why people are all about a rush to get back into the playoffs. We have something brewing here with this youth that could put us in the playoffs every year if we just ride the wave and build it right.

Is there anything wrong with getting better now. How is taking longer "right"? Do we need to add any more promising youth? We have more than we can develop at the moment. This team now needs to begin learning how to win. That is what is "right."

I am not sure Blake is the answer. His age is OK. His skill set is unbelievable. But, as a person, I am not fond of him.

 

[StreetTruckinTitan]

We'd be a team that other teams would hate to play. Were already getting a rep and adding Blake would only compound that. Not in a dirty way but hard, physical style of ball that teams coming here are going to know theyre in for a fight. How can you not love that?

 

[elindholm]

We'd be a team that other teams would hate to play. Were already getting a rep and adding Blake would only compound that. Not in a dirty way but hard, physical style of ball that teams coming here are going to know theyre in for a fight. How can you not love that?

The Suns "already" had a reputation as one of the tougher teams in the league? That's the first I've heard of that.

 

[Chaplin]

Did anyone here know Blake tried his hand at standup?

 

[Cheesebeef]

We'd be a team that other teams would hate to play. Were already getting a rep and adding Blake would only compound that. Not in a dirty way but hard, physical style of ball that teams coming here are going to know theyre in for a fight. How can you not love that?

again, where do you guys get the impression that Blake is hard/physical? He's got great physical skills (which are eroding due to injuries), but he's not a bruiser down low, has no post moves and doesn't play tough defense at all.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Not interested. That's a "very good" lineup with no top-five player (probably not even a top-ten player). Teams that look like that very rarely turn out to be contenders.

You don't think paul George is a top 10 player? Who do you rank above him?