Suns @ Pelicans 11-10-18

[Finito]

Eddie Johnson recycling the same growth speech for 4 years now

Dude it's getting very very old

Anyone else footing for them to win by 30

 

[AzStevenCal]

I expect some improvement high hopes I know. Just sad all these high picks and still one of the worst teams in the NBA

Yeah, we really wasted the Bender/Chriss draft and that's a large part of why we simply don't have enough talent and maturity to compete. IMO the only reason we're not losing by 40 every night is a lack of motivation on the part of our opponents. I expected us to trade for a PG and still be bad, we didn't pick up a PG and we are REALLY bad.

 

[SirStefan32]

So, I think I want Okobo and Bridges to replace Canaan and Ariza in the starting unit. Maybe Canaan and Ariza will play better against the second string guys.

 

[ColdPickleNachos]

So, I think I want Okobo and Bridges to replace Canaan and Ariza in the starting unit. Maybe Canaan and Ariza will play better against the second string guys.

Honestly, what do they have to lose at this point?

 

[AzStevenCal]

So, I think I want Okobo and Bridges to replace Canaan and Ariza in the starting unit. Maybe Canaan and Ariza will play better against the second string guys.

I agree about Okobo and Bridges. As for Ariza, he isn't this bad. He must have Tyson Chandler disease.

 

[Mainstreet]

The Suns are wasting Booker as a point guard.

 

[AzStevenCal]

The Suns are wasting Booker as a point guard.

Yeah, that's the main reason I'd try and make a Fultz trade. Even if he fails can he really be worse than what we have? And I really want Booker back in his spot.

 

[sdscard4]

Our big 2 plus Warren and Bridges are the only ones worth keeping maybe Okobo. Trade everyone else ...4 years and this is what we got. 3 of them are from this year lol ....a freaking joke

 

[Mainstreet]

Yeah, that's the main reason I'd try and make a Fultz trade. Even if he fails can he really be worse than what we have? And I really want Booker back in his spot.

The Suns need to do something unless they are tanking for another early draft pick.

I hope it's not true because the Suns are losing Booker along the way.

It bothers me because I'm not hearing much from the Suns front office since Jones became in charge.

 

[sdscard4]

You can tell Booker is pissed...

 

[AzStevenCal]

Our big 2 plus Warren and Bridges are the only ones worth keeping maybe Okobo. Trade everyone else ...4 years and this is what we got. 3 of them are from this year lol ....a freaking joke

I'd keep Holmes at the right price and either Melton or Canaan, whichever they feel will make the best backup down the road. But I don't think anyone wants to see much more of Ariza, Anderson and Crawford.

 

[Mainstreet]

I'd keep Holmes at the right price and either Melton or Canaan, whichever they feel will make the best backup down the road. But I don't think anyone wants to see much more of Ariza, Anderson and Crawford.

It's been a long time since since I've seen this much dead wood on a roster.

Bender and Daniels can be added to this list.

 

[Bufalay]

Crawford might be a better starter than Canaan. He can dribble the ball and seems to want to pass when he’s out there with booker and ayton. Those dumb passes he was throwing to chandler make a lot more sense to ayton.

 

[95pro]

The Suns are wasting Booker as a point guard.

Agreed! I have no idea why Booker is setting up Canaan for a 3. We should have a real facilitator setting up booker and not the other way around. I've also said teams are willing to let Canaan beat us.

 

[Hoop Head]

I'm tired of seeing people blame the 2016 draft for us sucking. Yes, that draft sucked for us but that's no excuse. The Sixers struck out in 2 drafts with Noel and Okafor but they're a playoff team already. They also have a big question mark with Fultz that is similar to JJ. They made a similar signing as we did with Ariza in Reddick. There are a lot of similarities but the Suns are awful and the Sixers just added Jimmy Butler and might be able to get to the NBA finals. Why are we that much worse? I know they're in the East but they would be a playoff team in the West still.

 

[elindholm]

Could one of his worst decisions by the end of the year be burying Bender on the bench?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA oh wait you're serious?

 

[95pro]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA oh wait you're serious?

haha a lot of sarcasm. I've always been down on Bender. I'm not as down on Coach as some are, culture doesn't change over night as it will be a progressive thing i hope.

We have a hole dug for us already, as far a personnel and the development of them, as well as some players just not being that good.

 

[StreetTruckinTitan]

You can tell Booker is pissed...

I fully expect Booker to force the Suns to trade him off the team. If not this season then in the off season for sure. I dont blame him for having to put up with the ineptness from the owner and management of this team.

 

[Mainstreet]

Agreed! I have no idea why Booker is setting up Canaan for a 3. We should have a real facilitator setting up booker and not the other way around. I've also said teams are willing to let Canaan beat us.

For awhile Booker reminded me a bit of Kobe in that 2006 playoff game against the Suns where he made it a point to pass more and shoot less.

The Suns need Booker as a scorer.

 

[Sunburn]

I fully expect Booker to force the Suns to trade him off the team. If not this season then in the off season for sure. I dont blame him for having to put up with the ineptness from the owner and management of this team.

Where is this narrative coming from?

 

[AzStevenCal]

I'm tired of seeing people blame the 2016 draft for us sucking. Yes, that draft sucked for us but that's no excuse. The Sixers struck out in 2 drafts with Noel and Okafor but they're a playoff team already. They also have a big question mark with Fultz that is similar to JJ. They made a similar signing as we did with Ariza in Reddick. There are a lot of similarities but the Suns are awful and the Sixers just added Jimmy Butler and might be able to get to the NBA finals. Why are we that much worse? I know they're in the East but they would be a playoff team in the West still.

It's not an excuse, it's reality. And it would be reality even if this were a winning ballclub. That draft should have propelled us forward instead of setting us back. It doesn't mean we should lose every game from now on but it's one of several mistakes that are haunting us right now. Philly started on their complete rebuild before we did and though they made mistakes, they made a smart coaching hire and stayed with him through their historically bad seasons. We're not that smart, we may well fire Koko before too much longer and set us back another year or two.

 

[95pro]

Where is this narrative coming from?

Just his demeanor. I can sense it too. He's starting to bark at players after the opponent scores. I'm not sure whats going on or being said but just by watching those little things you can tell something is awry.

 

[Mainstreet]

It's not an excuse, it's reality. And it would be reality even if this were a winning ballclub. That draft should have propelled us forward instead of setting us back. It doesn't mean we should lose every game from now on but it's one of several mistakes that are haunting us right now. Philly started on their complete rebuild before we did and though they made mistakes, they made a smart coaching hire and stayed with him through their historically bad seasons. We're not that smart, we may well fire Koko before too much longer and set us back another year or two.

In addition to the 2016 draft, it's also the Len draft (2013) and possibly the 2017 draft as well.

I do not have any confidence in the Suns front office to right the ship. Every time the Suns start making changes they seem to get worse.

 

[95pro]

On the positive side, Warren! Another good game by Warren, i swear he takes much abuse battling big guys. Last year we saw the effects of not having Ayton but against the Pelican's duo Warren did provide!

 

[Mainstreet]

Just his demeanor. I can sense it too. He's starting to bark at players after the opponent scores. I'm not sure whats going on or being said but just by watching those little things you can tell something is awry.

I see some of the same. Booker is clearly frustrated. He does not want to be on a perpetual losing team.