Suns Vs Grizzlies 11-5-14

[Mainstreet]

This is the first time I can remember a basket being taken away on replay, referring to the Bledsoe rebound basket on a missed shot that did not hit the rim called minutes later. This is not like whether it is a 2 point shot or a 3 point shot.

 

[Mainstreet]

No Gerald Green when the Suns need to score in a hurry?

 

[sunsfan88]

Bledsoe keeps leaving Lee open.

 

[Mainstreet]

IT playing like it is garbage time right now.

 

[Mainstreet]

Dragic scores his second basket at 1:35 left in the game.

 

[Sci Fi]

lol Ryan Mcdonough.

You backed the wrong horse dude.

 

[elindholm]

Thomas's success may also be due to the fact that he usually gets to play with a true SG in Green. When Bledsoe or Dragic is in, they're usually paired with one another (or sometimes with Thomas). Since neither Dragic nor Bledsoe has SG skills, it makes the other one's job as PG that much more difficult.

 

[WildBB]

How does Plumlee fit in? You hardly see him in the 2nd halfs??

 

[Phrazbit]

Sadly, I'm hopping on the "we really miss Channing Frye" bandwagon. With the 2 attacking PGs on the court at the same time his threat from range gave them a lot of room to operate. Right now they're really having to force their offense in half court sets, especially Dragic, or they go the other route and become completely passive... especially Dragic.

Not saying we should have kept him on that contract, it was the right move to let him go. However, Tolliver as a replacement smacked of replacing Amare with Warrick. Guys with similar skill sets... but 1/10th the talent.

Hopefully TJ Warren can help with some of our half court offense issues. I believe that guy is going to be able to put the ball in the hoop, I'm just not sure how many opportunities he will get given our log jam... and that he will probably be playing along side Green, who is not exactly generous with possessions.

Also, its worth noting that we sucked balls against the Grizz last year too. Its still early to be making judgements... so just ignore anything I state above. Unless it turns out to be prophetic, in which case try to remember how brilliant this post was.

 

[sunsfan88]

Dragic needs to get it going. If ball handling is the issue, then he needs to grow the pair and go and tell Hornacek, "Hey coach, can we try a lineup of me, Gerald, Marcus, Kieff and Len for a spurt in the 2nd QTR or late 1st QTR just to see how it does"?

I doubt Hornacek says no to it if Dragic thinks it will get him going.

 

[slinslin]

Dragic has been a disaster. He looks slow, clumsy, uninspired, no touch on his jumpshot..

Dragic, Plumlee and Tolliver have been massive disappointments.

 

[Chaz]

No energy from the jump last night.

The offense looks horrible in general. I understand that Memphis is a pretty good defensive team but there is too much standing around.

 

[Chaplin]

No energy from the jump last night.

The offense looks horrible in general. I understand that Memphis is a pretty good defensive team but there is too much standing around.

I don't get this. We were ahead of one of the best teams in the league (and undefeated to boot) for the majority of the game. Sure, Memphis pulled ahead when it counted, but this kind of proclamation doesn't seem to match what is on the court.

Many of us thought we would be blown out by the Grizzlies, and we weren't.

 

[Chaz]

I don't get this. We were ahead of one of the best teams in the league (and undefeated to boot) for the majority of the game. Sure, Memphis pulled ahead when it counted, but this kind of proclamation doesn't seem to match what is on the court.

Many of us thought we would be blown out by the Grizzlies, and we weren't.

I am just telling you what I saw.
Despite the early lead I thought they looked terrible.

Markieff was the only one playing well. Bledsoe did some good things by driving to the basket but his defense was inexplicable. Tucker gave a little spark when he came in and did some good work on the boards but over all I thought they were flat and uninspired. Then the stupid turnovers in the 3rd quarter gave Memphis separation and the Suns could never get it going.

If the Suns hold Gasol and Randolph to the games they had the Suns should have blown them out.

 

[82CardsGrad]

I don't care what the game dynamics are... a stud, near-max PG should never turn the ball over 9 times.
Hoping Bledsoe finds the path toward maturity and develops into a more steady, consistent presence on the court. 9 TO's is hideous!!!

 

[Chaz]

I don't care what the game dynamics are... a stud, near-max PG should never turn the ball over 9 times.
Hoping Bledsoe finds the path toward maturity and develops into a more steady, consistent presence on the court. 9 TO's is hideous!!!

I don't think he is a very smart offensive player. He is a scoring guard and great going to the basket and his outside shot is improving but he doesn't seem to have any idea how to run an offense.

 

[95pro]

I don't think he is a very smart offensive player. He is a scoring guard and great going to the basket and his outside shot is improving but he doesn't seem to have any idea how to run an offense.

He knows how or when to make the obvious pass,which are hard to come by with good defensive teams, but creating and making opportunities aren't in his vision.

 

[WuRaider]

Tolliver is useless, first real bad move by McD

 

[slinslin]

I don't care what the game dynamics are... a stud, near-max PG should never turn the ball over 9 times.
Hoping Bledsoe finds the path toward maturity and develops into a more steady, consistent presence on the court. 9 TO's is hideous!!!

That's hilarious.

Jason Kidd had plenty turnover triple doubles. It happens. If Len and Plumlee had better hands he would not have had near 9 turnovers.

Typical bitching about Bledsoe when he was one of the bigger contributors last night but Dragic who has been non-existant gets a pass, 0% from 3pt range.

 

[Broseph]

If we Played 100 games against Memphis, Suns would lose 90

 

[WuRaider]

Still early, they'll be ok.

Game recognize game:

"It's just such opposing styles of play and it could go the other way just as easy," Memphis coach Dave Joerger said. "I like their team a lot and Jeff does a great job with them. To have the firepower they have offensively – the speed and quickness – when it all comes together, they're going to win 10, 12 in a row at some point this season."

http://www.azcentral.com/story/spor...lowed-memphis-grizzlies-home-defeat/18577009/

 

[82CardsGrad]

That's hilarious.

Jason Kidd had plenty turnover triple doubles. It happens. If Len and Plumlee had better hands he would not have had near 9 turnovers.

Typical bitching about Bledsoe when he was one of the bigger contributors last night but Dragic who has been non-existant gets a pass, 0% from 3pt range.

Is Bledsoe supposed to be the leader of this team? We certainly pay him as if he is. I think it's safe to hold Bledsoe to a higher standard than Dragic, and a standard that most other max players are held to. 9 turnovers in a game against a key rival is just hideous, period...

 

[Phrazbit]

Is Bledsoe supposed to be the leader of this team? We certainly pay him as if he is. I think it's safe to hold Bledsoe to a higher standard than Dragic, and a standard that most other max players are held to. 9 turnovers in a game against a key rival is just hideous, period...

I'd hardly call Memphis a key rival. But this stuff with Bledsoe vs Dragic and the silly standard Bledsoe is held to compared to Goran has been going on since the start of last season and I'm sure it will be going on next year when Goran is making as much or more than Bledsoe.

 

[82CardsGrad]

I'd hardly call Memphis a key rival. But this stuff with Bledsoe vs Dragic and the silly standard Bledsoe is held to compared to Goran has been going on since the start of last season and I'm sure it will be going on next year when Goran is making as much or more than Bledsoe.

Why wouldn't Memphis be a key rival?? They are one of the elite teams in the west, no? I believe the Suns view them as a key rival and a team they know they need to figure out, particularly since they have now lost 5 straight to the Grizzlies...

And, do you really believe the Suns will pay Dragic more than Bledsoe??

 

[elindholm]

It's too late for us to wring our hands over Bledsoe. We knew what he was: an undersized shooting guard who is good at getting to the rim and above-average defensively, but turnover-prone, not a very good outside shooter, and with a questionable attitude. He's a good player and might get better, but nothing about his nature is going to make a fundamental change. Given the range of NBA salaries, he's fairly compensated, maybe just a bit on the high side. But he's not a top-15 player and most likely never will be.