Suns @ Warriors Saturday game thread 12-28-2024

[Superbone]

"I'm not going to let a couple of turnovers take away from my aggressiveness."

Somebody needs to teach KD what the definition of a couple is.

 

[Hoop Head]

"I'm not going to let a couple of turnovers take away from my aggressiveness."

Somebody needs to teach KD what the definition of a couple is.

Dude literally said he was still learning. He's a 17 year veteran and likely to be a first ballot HOF'er. He's Carmelo with a better build for the game.

 

[leclerc]

Dunn was very good in this game. Oso oso did good. Good thing with injuries and suspensions is to give these guys playing time. This was a better loss if I can say it that way. More effort than normal.

 

[Mainstreet]

Dunn was very good in this game. Oso oso did good. Good thing with injuries and suspensions is to give these guys playing time. This was a better loss if I can say it that way. More effort than normal.

I understand what you are saying, it's good to develop Dunn and Ighodaro, but unfortunately the Suns aren't tanking for a draft pick.

 

[BirdGangThing]

Dunn was very good in this game. Oso oso did good. Good thing with injuries and suspensions is to give these guys playing time. This was a better loss if I can say it that way. More effort than normal.

im digging the attention to offensive rebounds

 

[clyde2tw]

With Okogie's D, they stayed in the game for long enough. But the predictable, uninspiring offense doomed them, in the 4th. As Tyus said, they need to get the ball to their big 3s in SPACE, which I read as using proper screening and cutting to get them kinda easy shooting looks instead of forcing them to hold the ball for too long ending up play 1-on-3. And KD was visibly to tired, to create enough separations for his jumpers, as well as pay enough attention to defense.
And they have outside big-3 nobody that have independent scoring ability like Klay, Dinwidee, Schroeder, or Wiggins, Kuminga, or even Podz, Moody. Our next big contracts Nurk, Allen, RO, JO are all inconsistent outside shooters, rookies are raw. Only option as a potential capable creator and scorer is Tyus, who is rendered a bystander most of the time.

 

[leclerc]

I understand what you are saying, it's good to develop Dunn and Ighodaro, but unfortunately the Suns aren't tanking for a draft pick.

Not talking about tanking per se, but developing guys is a good thing long term, and I think Dunn and Oso helps with energy and athleticism, which we lack. They seem to play a bit better when we have some energy guys in there.

 

[Hoop Head]

Not talking about tanking per se, but developing guys is a good thing long term, and I think Dunn and Oso helps with energy and athleticism, which we lack. They seem to play a bit better when we have some energy guys in there.

I don't see it with Oso. He's a poor man's Ben Simmons on offense, afraid to shoot outside of the paint and when he does shoot it's a badly aimed runner or floater. He leads with his hands and arms on screens like a football player on the line of scrimmage and I'm shocked he's not called for more fouls because of that. He's got some hop in step but he's never looking to do anything but kick the ball out.

On Defense he's not good or bad. He's not capable of keeping up with guys on the perimeter so I see why he's not used as a PF but he doesn't have the strength to box out or hold position inside.

I wish we could afford to send him to the G-League for a bit but he's a necessary bench piece because Plumlee sucks and Nurk can't stay healthy or playing well. Bol Bol isn't the answer either but I think if Bol² didn't look for his own offense as much maybe he'd see more court time. His selfishness is a bit of an issue for a young and unproven player but he has some skill.

 

[Superbone]

I don't see it with Oso. He's a poor man's Ben Simmons on offense, afraid to shoot outside of the paint and when he does shoot it's a badly aimed runner or floater. He leads with his hands and arms on screens like a football player on the line of scrimmage and I'm shocked he's not called for more fouls because of that. He's got some hop in step but he's never looking to do anything but kick the ball out.

I can't agree with you on that. When he does shoot those, most of them go in. I do wish he would be more aggressive offensively and occasionally attack the basket. For where we got him in the draft, you couldn't ask for much more.

 

[Mainstreet]

I don't see it with Oso. He's a poor man's Ben Simmons on offense, afraid to shoot outside of the paint and when he does shoot it's a badly aimed runner or floater. He leads with his hands and arms on screens like a football player on the line of scrimmage and I'm shocked he's not called for more fouls because of that. He's got some hop in step but he's never looking to do anything but kick the ball out.

On Defense he's not good or bad. He's not capable of keeping up with guys on the perimeter so I see why he's not used as a PF but he doesn't have the strength to box out or hold position inside.

I wish we could afford to send him to the G-League for a bit but he's a necessary bench piece because Plumlee sucks and Nurk can't stay healthy or playing well. Bol Bol isn't the answer either but I think if Bol² didn't look for his own offense as much maybe he'd see more court time. His selfishness is a bit of an issue for a young and unproven player but he has some skill.

I can't agree with you on that. When he does shoot those, most of them go in. I do wish he would be more aggressive offensively and occasionally attack the basket. For where we got him in the draft, you couldn't ask for much more.

I like Oso especially as a second round pick, but I can understand his reluctance to shoot. His outside shot is ugly.

It may be beyond rehabbing because I'm guessing it has already been tried. This is not a case where Jeff Hornacek improved his shooting by taping a couple of fingers together.

 

[Superbone]

I like Oso especially as a second round pick, but I can understand his reluctance to shoot. His outside shot is ugly.

It may be beyond rehabbing because I'm guessing it has already been tried. This is not a case where Jeff Hornacek improved his shooting by taping a couple of fingers together.

Yeah, his outside shot needs a lot of work but I was referring to his floater which has been quite accurate. I'd also like to see him try and attack the rim more often as he's a good athlete.

 

[95pro]

Yeah, his outside shot needs a lot of work but I was referring to his floater which has been quite accurate. I'd also like to see him try and attack the rim more often as he's a good athlete.

Yeah right now he just has one move. Push shot aka floater.

And I haven’t seen anything new or developing in his game. I get he’s a second round pick, but he can’t only have one move to go to.

 

[Hoop Head]

Yeah, his outside shot needs a lot of work but I was referring to his floater which has been quite accurate. I'd also like to see him try and attack the rim more often as he's a good athlete.

He's incredibly accurate 0-3 feet from the basket but falls considerably when outside of 3 feet.

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