Suns @ Warriors

[sunsfan88]

This is one of the biggest issues with playing this two PG system:

https://vine.co/v/imjF6aQueUJ

If you notice on the play, Knight is actually contesting Thompson as well as he can. There's literally nothing more than Knight could do. However, Klay is a traditional SG and MUCH taller than Knight at 6'7 so Knight's contest doesn't even make him flinch.

If you look at most of our games this season, yes our backcourt probably scored a bunch but they also probably gave up just as much if not more to the opposing backcourt.

Against teams with a traditional SG like Klay for example, height matters and Knight and his 6'3 frame isn't scaring anyone defensively. Again, it isn't Knight's fault, he basically did the best he could do on the play above but it makes no difference.

We gave up 27 pts to Klay in that 3rd qtr alone. We had no answer because neither Bledsoe nor Knight is even close to being tall enough to defend him.

 

[SirStefan32]

This is one of the biggest issues with playing this two PG system:

https://vine.co/v/imjF6aQueUJ

If you notice on the play, Knight is actually contesting Thompson as well as he can. There's literally nothing more than Knight could do. However, Klay is a traditional SG and MUCH taller than Knight at 6'7 so Knight's contest doesn't even make him flinch.

If you look at most of our games this season, yes our backcourt probably scored a bunch but they also probably gave up just as much if not more to the opposing backcourt.

Against teams with a traditional SG like Klay for example, height matters and Knight and his 6'3 frame isn't scaring anyone defensively. Again, it isn't Knight's fault, he basically did the best he could do on the play above but it makes no difference.

We gave up 27 pts to Klay in that 3rd qtr alone. We had no answer because neither Bledsoe nor Knight is even close to being tall enough to defend him.

In all fairness, there is no guarding guys like Curry and Thompson when they heat up. You can have Alex Len and Tyson Chandler stand in front of them, and they'll still hit every shot. But, I do think that your point stands. If you are smaller at any position, you have some big disadvantages- players can shoot over you, they can post you up, etc. Theoretically, if you are smaller, you should be quicker, so you should have the advantage on the other end. It comes down to who can take the advantage of their size or quickness.

 

[nashman]

We can't judge anything based on this game that's for sure! The rotations are definitely a head scratcher most times, but this game you just got drilled by one of the best teams in history IMO. No one is stopping curry or Thomson when they get hot it's just not gonna happen. They only lose if they have an off night period.

 

[Phrazbit]

This is one of the biggest issues with playing this two PG system:

https://vine.co/v/imjF6aQueUJ

If you notice on the play, Knight is actually contesting Thompson as well as he can. There's literally nothing more than Knight could do. However, Klay is a traditional SG and MUCH taller than Knight at 6'7 so Knight's contest doesn't even make him flinch.

If you look at most of our games this season, yes our backcourt probably scored a bunch but they also probably gave up just as much if not more to the opposing backcourt.

Against teams with a traditional SG like Klay for example, height matters and Knight and his 6'3 frame isn't scaring anyone defensively. Again, it isn't Knight's fault, he basically did the best he could do on the play above but it makes no difference.

We gave up 27 pts to Klay in that 3rd qtr alone. We had no answer because neither Bledsoe nor Knight is even close to being tall enough to defend him.

Yes, clearly "one of the biggest issues" is our inability to stop a ridiculous no look pass and instant pop by a white hot shooter who virtually no one can contain.

 

[devilalum]

I think they're operating under an ultimtum to make the playoffs.

 

[WuRaider]

"We need to pick it up defensively. It just felt like we stopped helping each other on defense." - Eric Bledsoe

One of MANY issues with this team but a good place to start focusing. The only times this team has been fun to watch is when they're switching everything, running to rotate, and getting hyped about shutting the other team down.

 

[elindholm]

During the third quarter collapse, Curry kept leaking out on the break with no one other than Teletovic to try to run him down. That's an obvious recipe for failure. Well, obvious to most of this board, anyway -- I'm starting to wonder about Hornacek.

 

[Catlover]

The game is like a blur to me. I remember us being up by 4 points and I remember seeing Tucker sub in for Teletovic. That was the last sane moment I had.

 

[sunsfan88]

This play probably summed up this game. Actually, this play probably sums up this season thus far for the Suns:

https://vine.co/v/imj6PF9DV99

A perfect 4 on 1 opportunity screwed in mind boggling fashion.

 

[Mainstreet]

This play probably summed up this game. Actually, this play probably sums up this season thus far for the Suns:

https://vine.co/v/imj6PF9DV99

A perfect 4 on 1 opportunity screwed in mind boggling fashion.

The video was hilarious and sad at the same time.

 

[Mainstreet]

I think they're operating under an ultimtum to make the playoffs.

Then they better get a different ultimatum because something is wrong with the way the Suns play.

 

[sunsfan88]

The video was hilarious and sad at the same time.

I'm hoping to see it on Shaqtin'a Fool just because I want to hear what Kenny, Chuck and Shaq have to say about it

 

[Mainstreet]

I'm hoping to see it on Shaqtin'a Fool just because I want to hear what Kenny, Chuck and Shaq have to say about it

It looked to be a pretty play until the end. I'm still trying to figure who messed up the most on the play. Maybe Leuer should have taken the shot because he passed earlier on the play and got the ball back close enough to shoot it. However, Leuer was defended but Chandler did not make himself available at the rim. Some weird stuff.

 

[JCSunsfan]

You always have to be ready for the pass on the break. Chandler was the problem.

 

[SirStefan32]

There is a bigger issue (or bigger issues, probably) with that play. One Warrior was in the position to defend three Suns. If you have the numbers, spread out. Bledsoe should have been further to the right, and Chandler should have moved left. Knight was far enough behind that I'll give him a pass.

Bledsoe also should have passed to Chandler directly instead of passing it back to Leuer in the middle. Alternatively, Leuer should have handed the ball to Knight instead of passing it to Chandler.

 

[elindholm]

There is a bigger issue (or bigger issues, probably) with that play. One Warrior was in the position to defend three Suns. If you have the numbers, spread out. Bledsoe should have been further to the right, and Chandler should have moved left. Knight was far enough behind that I'll give him a pass.

Bledsoe also should have passed to Chandler directly instead of passing it back to Leuer in the middle. Alternatively, Leuer should have handed the ball to Knight instead of passing it to Chandler.

More generally, the Suns have at least two, and usually three, players standing around on offense at all times. It's stupid to declare to the defense that Players X, Y, and Z can be ignored for the next 24 seconds. Everyone needs to be a threat, not just in some abstract sense, but in the actual way that the play develops. You don't have a football team line up for a pass play with only one eligible receiver.

 

[SirStefan32]

More generally, the Suns have at least two, and usually three, players standing around on offense at all times. It's stupid to declare to the defense that Players X, Y, and Z can be ignored for the next 24 seconds. Everyone needs to be a threat, not just in some abstract sense, but in the actual way that the play develops. You don't have a football team line up for a pass play with only one eligible receiver.

Yes, I completely agree. This has been the case for a while. They are awful when it comes to moving without the ball. TJ Warren is really the only player on the Suns' roster who is actually good at this.

 

[slinslin]

There is a bigger issue (or bigger issues, probably) with that play. One Warrior was in the position to defend three Suns. If you have the numbers, spread out. Bledsoe should have been further to the right, and Chandler should have moved left. Knight was far enough behind that I'll give him a pass.

Bledsoe also should have passed to Chandler directly instead of passing it back to Leuer in the middle. Alternatively, Leuer should have handed the ball to Knight instead of passing it to Chandler.

Eh what? Leuer should have simply dunked (probably not athletic enough) it or layed it in. There was no problem with that play otherwise, Leuer had an easy transition basket with Bogut backpeddling in the restricted circle. Worst case he would have gotten 2 freethrows and a foul on the Warriors.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I think our young guys (Len, Booker and Warren) and Bledsoe have charisma as well as talent.

you and I have very different version of charisma then.

 

[devilalum]

you and I have very different version of charisma then.

I'm not feelin it either. The Suns are boring AND a national joke (4on1)

Knight is articulate but I wouldn't call him charasmatic either.

 

[leclerc]

Seriously, Hornacek your team blows and your playing the best team in the league, realize your not gonna win and give these kids some ******** quality minutes. Goodwin and Booker should have both had 20+ mins tonight each.

Come on already. I'm losing faith in the coach or whoever handles the rotations.