Suns withdraw Brooks qualifying offer

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Good. What an awful and now backwards trade.
 

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Good. What an awful and now backwards trade.
Indeed it was. Brooks is a chucker who couldn't guard a chair. It would've been smarter and easier to just trade Nash when he had high value,kept Dragic and promoted him, and saved the number one pick.

Oh well,it doesn't matter now. I've actually got to hand it to the Suns for re-aquiring Goran and basically admitting their earlier mistake with the Brooks trade.
 

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Who did Houston draft with that pick we gave them?

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Nikola Mirotic, but he was traded to Minni who then traded him to the Bulls. He's supposed to be very good and a name we'll definitely hear down the line.
 

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Turned out to be a horrible move, but Dragic was horrible that season. Still a mystery what got into that kid.

I'm happy with Telfair and Marshall at the point guard for next season. We need help at the wing and alongside The Polish Hammer now.

Update: What the hell? Is Dragic back in town? Then Marshall will have to ride the pine if he can't beat Telfair out of the rotation. If we can't run Dragic and Marshall at the same time and have a guard rotation of Dragic, Shannon Brown/Somebody else, Marshall and Telfair. I hope Telfair's been working on his three.
 
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Turned out to be a horrible move, but Dragic was horrible that season. Still a mystery what got into that kid.

I'm happy with Telfair and Marshall at the point guard for next season. We need help at the wing and alongside The Polish Hammer now.

Update: What the hell? Is Dragic back in town? Then Marshall will have to ride the pine if he can't beat Telfair out of the rotation. If we can't run Dragic and Marshall at the same time and have a guard rotation of Dragic, Shannon Brown/Somebody else, Marshall and Telfair. I hope Telfair's been working on his three.

The NBA where you don't have time enough to blink. :lol:
 

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Turned out to be a horrible move, but Dragic was horrible that season. Still a mystery what got into that kid.

I'm happy with Telfair and Marshall at the point guard for next season. We need help at the wing and alongside The Polish Hammer now.

Update: What the hell? Is Dragic back in town? Then Marshall will have to ride the pine if he can't beat Telfair out of the rotation. If we can't run Dragic and Marshall at the same time and have a guard rotation of Dragic, Shannon Brown/Somebody else, Marshall and Telfair. I hope Telfair's been working on his three.

I think gentry will be under orders to give Marshall minutes wherever he can. I mean the hope would be that he looks good enough that Gentry wants to find ways to get him on the floor. I would like to see what happens at the shooting guard position before I worry too much about point guard playing time. We may be forced to put a lot of two point guard lineups out there.

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I agree that Brooks didn't work out well in Phoenix either, but mark my words, this board is going to tearing its hair out over Dragic this coming season.
 

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I agree that Brooks didn't work out well in Phoenix either, but mark my words, this board is going to tearing its hair out over Dragic this coming season.

Dragic is a nice piece. He played really well for the Rockets. The Suns are gonna suck but it won't be any more Dragic's fault than the rest of the team.
 

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If Brooks outplays Dragic this coming season, the entire front office should be fired.
 

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If Brooks outplays Dragic this coming season, the entire front office should be fired.

If Dragic play as well as he did late last season, i don't think he will. I just don't see Brooks returning to the form he was two seasons ago.
I do see him playing better than he did for us, i suspect his injury affected his play while with the Suns
 

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And Brooks is meeting with Houston and will most likely resign there.
http://houston.sbnation.com/houston...2457/houston-rockets-free-agency-aaron-brooks

I don't know, I liked Brooks. I thought he added something special. We started that winning streak on the road once he arrived, then the injuries hit.

But Dragic is now very solid so I think all worked out well in the end.

I think Brooks has real promise in this league in an Eddie House role. He was not on the Suns roster long enough to make a good evaluation. He will do well wherever he lands.
 

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For a month! He played well for a month at a time for the Suns, too. The problem is that he then reverts to being lousy.

He never played that well game in and game out like he did the last 2 months Eric and more importantly never had the opportunity he did in Houston. So that explains his inconsistency at least to me. PG is like RB in the NFL. You need reps to get into a rhythm. Plus I think at the time the Suns wanted him to be Nash when he went out on floor. That is a losing proposition and one of the biggest reasons non one succeeded in that role.

Do you forget the San Antonio playoff game? when you see that kind of flash, you know you got the raw material to work with. His play (much moreso then his actual numbers) validated he needed the time. I think you are taking a big swing and miss on this prediction. He's gone get 17 and 7 this year and that's good enough for me based on his contract and who he will have around him.
 
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For a month! He played well for a month at a time for the Suns, too. The problem is that he then reverts to being lousy.


In the 28 games (two months) that Dragic started for the Rockets, he averaged 16.1 ppg, 8.4 apg, 3.5 rpg, and 1.8 spg. That's pretty solid and 28 games is decent sample size. While starting, his combined points, rebounds, and assists average (28) is tied for 9th best amongst point guards.
 

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I remember Brooks, up and comer in the League then got injured right? Chip on his shoulder and started acting mental before he ever truely healed up right? About 4 foot tall, great 3 ponit shot when he's not too angry, just angry. 100 pounds, little to no defense, he was good for a steal every now and then. Said he came here to focus to get his career back on track but just kept going with the crazy head., chucking the ball at the refs.
 
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He was playing with an abomination of a 2nd unit during his last season here. His statistics immediately improved even during that same year in Houston.

He is an up tempo... slightly frantic, PG. When you surround him with trash like Childress, Warrick, Turkeyglue (who thought he was a PG at the time) he had no hope to succeed.
 

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It could also be Houston has a plug and play PG system which would help account for the success of Lowry, Brooks and Dragic there. They don't seem overly concerned who plays this position.
 

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He never played that well game in and game out like he did the last 2 months Eric and more importantly never had the opportunity he did in Houston. So that explains his inconsistency at least to me. PG is like RB in the NFL. You need reps to get into a rhythm. Plus I think at the time the Suns wanted him to be Nash when he went out on floor. That is a losing proposition and one of the biggest reasons non one succeeded in that role.
+1
Goran got into a nice rhythm defensively and as a facilitator on that Suns WCF 2nd unit.
Then that 2nd unit was sort of defused the following season chemistry-wise.
Some suggest that Dragic was tanking etc...i dont believe that,but he was definately bad. Maybe he felt that he was ready to take that next step as a starter but that oportunity seemed light years away wish Nash in front of him...who knows.

I do know that there wont be another Nash to replace Nash and fans will have to realize that. If anyone expects this offense to run smoothly from this point on they need to wake up and be realistic. Dragic/Marshall will have their work cut out making this roster look good offensively.

There WILL BE bumps in the road....regardless of who our PG is. Thats life w/out Nash running the show.....Mr Elindholm ;)
 

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If Brooks outplays Dragic this coming season, the entire front office should be fired.
However Brooks and Dragic play this coming season, the entire Front Office (including the owner) should be fired.

The Front Office is not "Major League" calibre. Only Alvin Gentry and Steve Nash, and to a lesser degree Marcin Gortat, Grant Hill and Jared Dudley have kept the world from seeing just how inept they are.

We'll see how much more obvious it becomes next season when it will be down to Gentry's coaching and Gortat and Dudley's playing as the only solid plusses on the team. I believe that Dragic could be a "+", but it will be difficult with this supporting cast.
 

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It could also be Houston has a plug and play PG system which would help account for the success of Lowry, Brooks and Dragic there. They don't seem overly concerned who plays this position.
Yes. I've been trying to explain this for years concerning all PG's who've been asked to come in here and backup Nashball. They've all struggled.

Dragic is a guy who would benefit greatly from having a strong offensive presence in the paint. Something we dont really have....yet.
 

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