Swope placed on reserve/retired list..

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Let's say that his symptoms clear up by 2014 off season and he wants to give it another try , I believe the Cards still retain his rights since he was under contract . If someone knows different , feel free to correct me .
 

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Risks like that are what the 6th round is for in today's NFL. I find myself wondering what's the better risk/reward: signing a 6th round dude with character issues or health issues? You could get a dude like Hernandez or someone who could risk his health permanently. Do you go that route or just take a solid fundamental guy but someone you know is only a backup, at best?

That being said, this was obviously the right move, and they probably should have spent more time and resources into finding out for sure--but then again, you're stuck with how many resources do you put on researching your 6th round guy?

There's no easy answer, they swung and missed.
 

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Let's say that his symptoms clear up by 2014 off season and he wants to give it another try , I believe the Cards still retain his rights since he was under contract . If someone knows different , feel free to correct me .

Since he signed his contract, we own his rights for the duration of it as long as we do not renounce his rights.
 

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Let's say that his symptoms clear up by 2014 off season and he wants to give it another try , I believe the Cards still retain his rights since he was under contract . If someone knows different , feel free to correct me .

I would say the chances he ever dons a Cardinal uni is zero, given those injuries plus I'm sure he's getting a signing bonus for nada. I haven't ever heard of a guy retiring from a team because of injury & then returning to play at a later date.
 

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Who cares? Swope wasn't any good to begin with. Just a name pulled out of a hat at the end of the draft like Jorrick Calvin, Quan Sturdivant, Will Davis and Chris Harrington. All guys who went on to great careers with the Cardinals.
 

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Sucks to get to the highest level of the game only to be told you'll never play a down in it. Hope he lands on his feet in his personal life.

That being said, next man up. We have a plethora of UDFA WRs who are salivating knowing that a roster spot just opened up.
 

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I'm sorry, but imo bad teams trying to rebuild don't just throw away draft picks especially when the team knows he had concussion issues coming out of college.

Agree 100%. Late first round picks and undrafted FAs should not be considered as throwaways. There are some that are going to help teams.
 

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Who cares? Swope wasn't any good to begin with. Just a name pulled out of a hat at the end of the draft like Jorrick Calvin, Quan Sturdivant, Will Davis and Chris Harrington. All guys who went on to great careers with the Cardinals.

And 2 of those guys are Aggies...go figure :D At least some of the Horns kids have contributed to the Cards program.

Hell, never draft one again cause they mostly have sucked for the Cards led by Lectric Leland ;)
 

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Sheesh!!! Sure seems like a lot of wailing and knashing of teeth over a 6th round pick. I'm glad to see the front office take chances like this. The old regime would never have done it.
 

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Agreed. This is a team that blew first round picks on Leinart, Thomas Jones, Beanie Wells, etc. I'm not terribly worried about busting out a 6th rounder. Hope the kid has a good life as a result of this, class move by the organization if you ask me not forcing him to play.
 

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Damn


He was actually my 2nd favorite pick of the draft behind Minter, and the guy I was most excited for offensively this season (or in the future).

This sucks more than alot of Cards fans know. Hes somewhat of a poor mans Jordy Nelson. Deceptively fast and a polished route runner. He gets open and puts up numbers.


We lost a major weapon today. Feel terrible for the guy.

Who cares? Swope wasn't any good to begin with. Just a name pulled out of a hat at the end of the draft like Jorrick Calvin, Quan Sturdivant, Will Davis and Chris Harrington. All guys who went on to great careers with the Cardinals.

If not for his concussions, he was a consensus borderline 1st rounder.
 
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Are we sure about that? Because I'm confused about how we're trying to "win now" with an average quarterback, an average running back, and an offensive line that's filled with question marks.

I'm gonna start a thread/poll tonight or tomorrow (after I have a chance to think through how to put it) on who we think the Arizona Cardinals are right now.

Arians will be 61 in October. Tom Moore will be 75. Tom Pratt is 77. These guys pretty much have to be in win-now mode.
 

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I would rather take a guy like Swope in the 6th round who has 2nd-3rd round talent with the risk he may not play than take Ryan Lindley in the 6th round who is healthy but wishes he had UDFA talent
 

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I would rather take a guy like Swope in the 6th round who has 2nd-3rd round talent with the risk he may not play than take Ryan Lindley in the 6th round who is healthy but wishes he had UDFA talent

This is exactly what I came to say. I'd rather take a gamble with an extra late round pick like that then go with a guy that has no injury issues and no upside.
 

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Damn


He was actually my 2nd favorite pick of the draft behind Minter, and the guy I was most excited for offensively this season (or in the future).

This sucks more than alot of Cards fans know. Hes somewhat of a poor mans Jordy Nelson. Deceptively fast and a polished route runner. He gets open and puts up numbers.


We lost a major weapon today. Feel terrible for the guy.



If not for his concussions, he was a consensus borderline 1st rounder.

All I can say is he must have been mishandled in college, because he never missed a single play, much less a game.
 

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Who cares? Swope wasn't any good to begin with. Just a name pulled out of a hat at the end of the draft like Jorrick Calvin, Quan Sturdivant, Will Davis and Chris Harrington. All guys who went on to great careers with the Cardinals.

And he was still better than any Longhorns WR in the last few years.
 

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I'm sorry, but imo bad teams trying to rebuild don't just throw away draft picks especially when the team knows he had concussion issues coming out of college.
Agree completely.

Everyone is using the logic, "well, it's only a 6th round pick", but it still was a wasted pick because everybody knew his head was a mess. I know 6th round picks have very little value but, then again, some are talking about wanting Nate Potter to start at LT this year.
 

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Sheesh!!! Sure seems like a lot of wailing and knashing of teeth over a 6th round pick. I'm glad to see the front office take chances like this. The old regime would never have done it.
But it wasn't taking a chance. It was wasting a pick.

I'm not too worried about it or waling, but it was a wasted pick.

For the record one last time. I specifically texted my scouting friend during the draft around round 3 about Swope. He replied, great kid, good player, but his brains are scrambled eggs from concussions. So, it's not like the info wasn't out there.

Again, not a huge deal but still a worthless pick.
 

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Who cares? Swope wasn't any good to begin with. Just a name pulled out of a hat at the end of the draft like Jorrick Calvin, Quan Sturdivant, Will Davis and Chris Harrington. All guys who went on to great careers with the Cardinals.

That's a load of crap. His concern was health issues, not talent issues. He didn't drop to the 6th round because he was a sloppy route runner, or had poor hands, or was slow. He dropped to the 6th round because it was highly likely he wouldn't be healthy enough to play a down of football and that's exactly what happened.

And do those saying it was a waste of a pick, oh darn we lost out on a spare 6th round pick so we couldn't draft another Jorrick Calvin, Quan Sturdivant, Will Davis and Chris Harrington. Losing a 6th round pick is nothing.
 

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The most disturbing thing to me is the team knew he had serious head issues & still drafted him. :bang:

I need to set up a poll for whether it's ironic or poetic that you keep using the :bang: emoticon to demonstrate your frustration about Swopes HEAD Injuries. Maybe you are suffering from concussions and this subject hits to close to home for you. ;)


All I can say is he must have been mishandled in college, because he never missed a single play, much less a game.

This has to be the case. He passed his baseline at the combine but gets concussed during OTA's?

I'm not sure if he will be able to come back and try the NFL again but you can see by his quotes that he truly wants to. I give it a 95% chance he never plays again but that's what the miss rate for 6th rd draft picks is anyways.
 

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It was a high-risk/high reward proposition in the first place.

The whole concept of "risk" is that you might lose. (Otherwise it's not a risk).

We rolled the dice on Swope and lost. There will be other times when we roll the dice and win. (Hopefully we win those deals more times than we lose. In fact, if the upside is continually much higher than the downside, you don't have to win 50% of those battles - you may only have to win 20 - 25% of them in order to achieve positive pay-out).
 

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I see high risk as what every NFL team takes when they make their selection in the First Round of the Annual NFL Draft .
 
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