Tell Dansby's Agent...

[Mitch]

Either come to the negotiating table or go find a feasible trade...

Dansby is holding up the works...

Because of him the Cardinals can't get what they need to get done...

They can't get:

(1) His so-called good buddy Adrian Wilson re-signed.

(2) Anquan Boldin re-signed.

(3) Deals done with another three to four players who would round out this roster into a Championship caliber roster.

Let me ask you this...

What is the better scenario:

The roster as is with Dansby on it?

OR...

A roster that has AW and Q re-signed and focused, plus a roster with LB Larry Foote, DE Jason Taylor and LB Roosevelt Colvin? Plus whatever the Cardinals could get in a deal for Dansby.

Dansby is a lame duck. He's outa here.

Why sacrifice the chance to repeat as NFC Champions to accomodate a lame duck?

And really how can Dansby keep talking like a leader when everyone knows he's outa here?

If he shows the loyalty it takes to do what's best for the team, while feathering his own nest, fine.

But he's content playing this out while his teammates and the team suffers. Not good.

Something should happen with this sooner rather than later. Next year we get NOTHING for him. He's gone.

C'mon Cardinals, get aggressive with this, NOW.

 

[Catfish]

I agree, take the damned tag off and trade his A__ !!! Then we can get down to business again.

 

[WildBB]

Either come to the negotiating table or go find a feasible trade...

Dansby is holding up the works...

Because of him the Cardinals can't get what they need to get done...

They can't get:

(1) His so-called good buddy Adrian Wilson re-signed.

Why not? They're like 5M (with AW's present salary included) under the cap and have spending $$$$ for bonuses.

 

[Brewster10]

I agree, although it seem quite unlikely this organization would get those other things done.

You really think they would target Foote and Taylor?

Outside of getting Wilson resigned, i dont think this organization would do any of those other moves

 

[lauraw]

Mitch, in "Trade Dansby's a$$", I said much the same thing and I agree with your well thought out post! Where is your ST's Post? I hope I didn't miss it....

 

[Mitch]

Mitch, in "Trade Dansby's a$$", I said much the same thing and I agree with your well thought out post! Where is your ST's Post? I hope I didn't miss it....

Check my post yesterday...Cardinals' Thoughts and Roster Prediction.

I laud the STs there.

We need a resolution on Dansby now.

Not later.

Get'r done Cardinals!

 

[SuperSpck]

I agree, take the damned tag off and trade his A__ !!! Then we can get down to business again.

I think he signed it. Either way, wouldn't Wilson signing a new deal make for a more cap friendly number for his own deal?
Why not Boldin too if both contracts are backloaded?

Dansby doesn't help, but I'm not sure he's the deal breaker either.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

i like our chances to repeat alot better with Dansby on the team. AW and Boldin aren't/can't go anyhwere. If Boldin doesn't get a new contract he's outta here in two years as well. I think Dansby will be re-signed. Where did you get that he was holding up negotiations.I know your going to sya that he fired his agent when a deal was near but,according to Dansby, no deal was near.You can't take his word as gopsel on one thing and disregard on another. I think the draft had more to do with a holdup as anything. He had to get his new agent approved and then the draft. I'm sure we'll know more accurately in the next month, or so, whether Dansby will be here or not. You guys are taking one small comment about next year's free agency and making it the be all, end all. What about the numerous times he ahs said his goal is to sign a long term contract in Arizona. Graves is as much at fault in this as anyone. He's had over 2 years to get a deal done but wanted to wait to see if Dansby would stay healthy . NOw, Dansby is in the position of power and is utilizing it. What's wrong with that. Also, do you think AW and Boldin are worried whether anyone else gets their money? Or more worried about themselves getting money. Why should Dansby worry about that? He's not in charge on the teams salary, Graves is.

 

[HookemCards]

Wilson's new deal would likely clear cap space. Boldins probably wouldn't, plus I really doubt the Cards are looking to restructure him this year.

 

[AntSports Steve]

With Dansby on a one year deal and his public desire to test free agency in the uncapped year, what team would want him? You wouldn't get much in trade if he can't be signed to long term deal.

The team getting him will have the same problem getting him to sign as the Cards. Plus, why trade when you can wait till next year and get him as a free agent?

 

[lauraw]

I just wish Graves went to Starbuck's more...He's on too much prozac.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

How many sacks did Washington have last season?
How many sacks did Taylor have?
Why is he still out of work?

Has Colvin been released from "chronic care"?

Yup, let's dump Dansby for these two and Larry "two down" Foote.

 

[az1965]

Dansby is so overrated on this board, IMO... I say pull the franchise tag off and save 9 mil to spend on other players. I'm still not convinced he is someone who would continue to work his ass off once he signs a huge contract. He is clearly also not interested to negotiate a deal right now. There were issues with him until he got to his last two "contract" years.

 

[Mitch]

How many sacks did Washington have last season?
How many sacks did Taylor have?
Why is he still out of work?

Has Colvin been released from "chronic care"?

Yup, let's dump Dansby for these two and Larry "two down" Foote.

I probably shouldn't respond to your post because all you do is troll the threads and bash the posters. I think you are a real detriment to the board. You look for controversy and rarely make any intelligent or persuasive remarks.

That said, Jason Taylor has more pass rushing ability by far than any player on the roster save Adrian Wilson.

Larry Foote has two Super Bowl rings. Got a problem with that? Maybe he's a lucky charm. Ever thought about that?

Roosevelt Colvin was signed by the Patriots last year near the end of the season, came in and started the last several games, and played good, solid football.

With such a glaring lack of depth at LB, the Cardinals ought to try something...but I guess that's too forward of a concept for you.

 

[Mitch]

Dansby is so overrated on this board, IMO... I say pull the franchise tag off and save 9 mil to spend on other players. I'm still not convinced he is someone who would continue to work his ass off once he signs a huge contract. He is clearly also not interested to negotiate a deal right now. There were issues with him until he got to his last two "contract" years.

65: I agree that something has to be done. He's the most over-rated Cardinal and now he's just standing in the way, on his own way out of town.

 

[az1965]

With Dansby on a one year deal and his public desire to test free agency in the uncapped year, what team would want him? You wouldn't get much in trade if he can't be signed to long term deal.

The team getting him will have the same problem getting him to sign as the Cards. Plus, why trade when you can wait till next year and get him as a free agent?

Yep, I don't think anyone would want to trade for him without a contract extension which he does not appear to be interested in right now.

 

[DoTheDew]

I agree, take the damned tag off and trade his A__ !!! Then we can get down to business again.

If we took the tag off he would become a FA and we could not trade him, he would be free to sign with another team. This team has no intention of trading him this season. If a new contract cannot be worked out and 2010 ends up a capped year, I expect us to initially tag him again, only to buy us time to seek a trade. If one cannot be found we will remove the tag and let him sign else where and get a 3rd round comp pick (I think comp picks will still work that way if there is no cap in 2010?)

 

[Mitch]

Yep, I don't think anyone would want to trade for him without a contract extension which he does not appear to be interested in right now.

The whole point of a trade would be with a team that would sign him to a contract. Otherwise, this discussion is moot. Maybe some team with cap space would bite. But, something needs to get done asap. He's holding up the works.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

I probably shouldn't respond to your post because all you do is troll the threads and bash the posters. I think you are a real detriment to the board. You look for controversy and rarely make any intelligent or persuasive remarks.

A detriment to this board. I'm sure Mitch and the Mitchettes would think so. You are confusing trolling with simply questioning your flights of fancy. Intelligent and persuasive is clearly in the mind of the writer, as you demonstrate daily. And, someone, of a certain age, who calls a player a "suck" and a "douchebag" is in no position to be tut-tuting anyone.

That said, Jason Taylor has more pass rushing ability by far than any player on the roster save Adrian Wilson.

Which conveniently ignores how pitiful the Washington pass rush was with Taylor last season.

Larry Foote has two Super Bowl rings. Got a problem with that? Maybe he's a lucky charm. Ever thought about that?

No problem with his rings. Problem, however, with the fact that he is a two down LB, and you'd want to replace a three down linebacker (Dansby) with him.

Got a problem with that?

Roosevelt Colvin was signed by the Patriots last year near the end of the season, came in and started the last several games, and played good, solid football.

Again, you conveniently ignore his health, and fail to answer the simple question: Why are he and Taylor out of work?

With such a glaring lack of depth at LB, the Cardinals ought to try something...but I guess that's too forward of a concept for you.

If I'm confusing your bipolar flights of fancy with "forward looking concepts" I can certainly live with it. No doubt, you'll be offering a new "forward looking concept" to regale us all come tomorrow.

Feel free to use the ignore button.

Just think... if you use it often enough you could create your perfect little world.

Mitch and Mitchettes... sending each other little congratulatory notes and thumbs up all around.

And, most important, no one like me asking a few straight forward questions about your latest bipolar meanderings.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Dansby is so overrated on this board, IMO... I say pull the franchise tag off and save 9 mil to spend on other players. I'm still not convinced he is someone who would continue to work his ass off once he signs a huge contract. He is clearly also not interested to negotiate a deal right now. There were issues with him until he got to his last two "contract" years.

i'm not positive but since he has signed his franchise tag, i don't think it can be pulled. Again, what shred of evidence do you have to back up him becoming lazy. He's been the best player on the defensive side of the ball for about 3-4 years running. Why does that statement not apply to Boldin, Fitz, or anyone who signs a big contract? Please explain to me why that applies to Dansby and no others.

 

[Carddan]

You can't "pull the tag" once he signed it. We are over the cap barrel on this one if he truly won't renegotiate.

 

[Jetstream Green]

The defense is better with Dansby on the field and it cannot be judged by just tackles or sacks by him alone but the performance of those around him. Pendy claimed once he was the most important guy on the field next to Wilson. But I too wish some movement would progress on Dansby because of Q...Wilson I have no worries, he seems to be about as much of a team player one can expect this day and age and he will play his remaining contract out with class and effort and hopefully the FO will respond likewise towards him.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

The big problem,in my opinion, with the Dansby negotiations is finding the right monetary value for him. It's kind of a unique situation with him and the Cards. On one hand, he's the best player on the defense and is very important to the teams success. On the other hand, he plays a position that it is at,or near, the bottom of the totem pole when it comes to how teams value each position. That's why you saw inside LB's like Maualuga,
Laurinitis,and even Curry to some extent fall on draft day. Teams just don't place as high a value at that position. It would be kind of like having the RG on offense be the highest paid player on that side of the ball. It just doesn't happen no matter how good they are.

 

[splitsecond]

It would be rather amusing to see dansby cut, and his chances of "testing the uncapped market" basically shot. but i am not sure it is worth the damage it does to the D.

 

[HookemCards]

It would be rather amusing to see dansby cut, and his chances of "testing the uncapped market" basically shot. but i am not sure it is worth the damage it does to the D.

Not sure how they would be shot. If we cut him he is a free agent, I'm sure someone of his ability would be able to sign on somewhere and pretty quick.