The 2017-2018 Around the NBA thread

[Phrazbit]

We can give them Monroe, the Milwaukee pick and the Miami pick and all our second round picks

for

Frye, Shump and the Nets pick.

If LeBron walks this summer, they can retool with three first rounders and three second rounders.

I don't see why that makes them much better right now or in the future.

They need to strike gold on that Nets pick, I don't see them giving it up unless it is for a high caliber player. That trade gives them quantity over quality... but in the NBA that formula does not fly. You'd rather have 1 all-star than 5 role players, and I really doubt they'd get close to 5 role players out of that deal.

I also do not think they're under achieving. On paper that team might look good, but it is basically LeBron (still probably the most complete player in the league), Love, a primier stretch 4... and a bunch of steaming hot garbage. Thomas has barely played and he's been awful when he has.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Well. Eric. Its beginning to look like you were right about Randle.

 

[Errntknght]

Well. Eric. Its beginning to look like you were right about Randle.

How far back in time does this refer to? I know Randle has started recently and seems to be contributing a lot. He's not starting at C but he's got to be manning the postition some of the time - there was some debate about Randle playing C a while back...

 

[SirStefan32]

How far back in time does this refer to? I know Randle has started recently and seems to be contributing a lot. He's not starting at C but he's got to be manning the postition some of the time - there was some debate about Randle playing C a while back...

It was earlier this season, before Randle was starting. There were a few of us who said we'd still prefer Bender or Chriss. Looks like Eric was right.

 

[Errntknght]

Thanx Sir... didn't recall that

 

[elindholm]

It was earlier this season, before Randle was starting. There were a few of us who said we'd still prefer Bender or Chriss. Looks like Eric was right.

Well, in fairness, I was watching him play. Maybe it's fool's gold, but to me, he doesn't warrant the "low ceiling" talk. That was the main point of disagreement.

 

[Cheesebeef]

We can give them Monroe, the Milwaukee pick and the Miami pick and all our second round picks

for

Frye, Shump and the Nets pick.

If LeBron walks this summer, they can retool with three first rounders and three second rounders.

Jesus.

First, we were gonna get the Brooklyn pick for Bledsoe... now, we’re going to get it for Greg Monroe and a bunch late first round picks?

Come the f on... again.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Jesus.

First, we were gonna get the Brooklyn pick for Bledsoe... now, we’re going to get it for Greg Monroe and a bunch late first round picks?

Come the f on... again.

Hope is free (even if it’s not based in rationality).

 

[JCSunsfan]

Jesus.

First, we were gonna get the Brooklyn pick for Bledsoe... now, we’re going to get it for Greg Monroe and a bunch late first round picks?

Come the f on... again.

Just Suns fans here. Not seriously proposing this anywhere. Its more of a harball offer type thing.

 

[hcsilla]

Pardon me, but what is that impressive in a 4th-year player making 17/9 (with questionable defense I guess) for a bad team in a few games? Even if he keeps that until the season ends?

How does that justify that we should trade a younger, cheaper prospect for him at this stage of Suns' rebuilding?

 

[JCSunsfan]

Jesus.

First, we were gonna get the Brooklyn pick for Bledsoe... now, we’re going to get it for Greg Monroe and

Jesus.

First, we were gonna get the Brooklyn pick for Bledsoe... now, we’re going to get it for Greg Monroe and a bunch late first round picks?

Come the f on... again.

A couple of things. I do not believe I suggested the Brooklyn pick for Bledsoe, just that Cleveland probably should have tried to get Bledsoe when he was available. He would be better for them than what they have right now.

Second. I am not advocating knocking on Cleveland's door with an offer. They need a center. We have one. Their fans (on other boards) think we should give him to them and take back whatever bad contracts they have out of the goodness of our hearts. Frankly, I would just rather have the extra $17 million on our books this summer. Cleveland has one trade piece anyone wants. Its that Brooklyn pick.

Third. I am not as high on that Brooklyn pick as many are. Its probably going to b a 9-10 pick in this draft. If Cleveland does trade it, it will probably be with protections. So, basically its one of the Bridges or Wendell Carter or something.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Pardon me, but what is that impressive in a 4th-year player making 17/9 (with questionable defense I guess) for a bad team in a few games? Even if he keeps that until the season ends?

How does that justify that we should trade a younger, cheaper prospect for him at this stage of Suns' rebuilding?

Since just before Christmas he has been producing pretty consistently. He is beginning to look like a legit starting pf. His team is also winning more. He was also available. He has been significantly better than Chriss or Bender.

And 17/9 are decent numbers. We would be very happy to have that from either of our young forwards. When ELindholm brought him up (in November I think) we all sort of dismissed Randle as a bust. Randle is turning out to be more than we thought.

 

[Mainstreet]

Third. I am not as high on that Brooklyn pick as many are. Its probably going to b a 9-10 pick in this draft. If Cleveland does trade it, it will probably be with protections. So, basically its one of the Bridges or Wendell Carter or something.

A 9-10 pick in this draft is not a bad thing if it were ever on the table.

 

[Hoop Head]

David Blatt tried throwing some shade at Cleveland after they lost to the Thunder with the score being 148-124. He said he hoped his team doesn't allow as many points as the Cav's did against the Thunder while he was coaching a Team Europe vs Team Asia All-Star game. Then Team Europe gave up 151 points in a loss. At least that was an All-Star game though. Blatt would be a better coach for the Cav's than Tyronn Lue has been the last year and a half.

http://nba.nbcsports.com/2018/01/21...ers-backfires-when-opponent-scores-151-video/

 

[SirStefan32]

Since just before Christmas he has been producing pretty consistently. He is beginning to look like a legit starting pf. His team is also winning more. He was also available. He has been significantly better than Chriss or Bender.

And 17/9 are decent numbers. We would be very happy to have that from either of our young forwards. When ELindholm brought him up (in November I think) we all sort of dismissed Randle as a bust. Randle is turning out to be more than we thought.

Yeah, exactly. I would be jumping up and down and doing a happy dance if Chriss or Bender averaged 17 and 9.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Since just before Christmas he has been producing pretty consistently. He is beginning to look like a legit starting pf. His team is also winning more. He was also available. He has been significantly better than Chriss or Bender.

And 17/9 are decent numbers. We would be very happy to have that from either of our young forwards. When ELindholm brought him up (in November I think) we all sort of dismissed Randle as a bust. Randle is turning out to be more than we thought.

I didn’t dismiss him. I’ve always kinda liked randle.

 

[hcsilla]

Yeah, exactly. I would be jumping up and down and doing a happy dance if Chriss or Bender averaged 17 and 9.

Cool. All you have to do is waiting for 2 years and then we all will see if Bender or Chriss averaged 17/9. After that we can compare that to what Randle have averaged in those 2 years.

 

[elindholm]

Cool. All you have to do is waiting for 2 years and then we all will see if Bender or Chriss averaged 17/9. After that we can compare that to what Randle have averaged in those 2 years.

If Bender is averaging 17 and 9 in two years, it will be the most wrong I have ever been about any young player ever. Almost all he does is shoot threes, so he'd have to be making 5 per game, and right now he's lucky to get 9 rebounds in a week.

 

[SirStefan32]

I am a huge Bender fan, but I don't see 17 and 9 in his future. I am hoping for it, but if I were a betting man, I'd bet against 17 and 9.

 

[hcsilla]

If Bender is averaging 17 and 9 in two years, it will be the most wrong I have ever been about any young player ever. Almost all he does is shoot threes, so he'd have to be making 5 per game, and right now he's lucky to get 9 rebounds in a week.

, yes, it doesn't seem likely. However, the jury is still out and the Suns are not in a hurry since they still lack core players.

However, let's calm down a bit and see how long can Randle keep 17/9, if he can at all.

 

[Mainstreet]

If Bender is averaging 17 and 9 in two years, it will be the most wrong I have ever been about any young player ever. Almost all he does is shoot threes, so he'd have to be making 5 per game, and right now he's lucky to get 9 rebounds in a week.

I knew Bender had 8 rebounds in the Nuggets game so I had to look it up.

Bender has averaged 7 rebounds in his last 5 games.

 

[SirStefan32]

I knew Bender had 8 rebounds in the Nuggets game so I had to look it up.

Bender has averaged 7 rebounds in his last 5 games.

I noticed his rebounding the last two games, but I did not realize he's been rebounding for five games. His rebounding was non-existent there for a while. He can already shoot and defend. Being able to rebound consistently, even if it's only 7-8 per game would be huge for him. I hope he can keep it up!

 

[Mainstreet]

I noticed his rebounding the last two games, but I did not realize he's been rebounding for five games. His rebounding was non-existent there for a while. He can already shoot and defend. Being able to rebound consistently, even if it's only 7-8 per game would be huge for him. I hope he can keep it up!

Now let's hope Bender can keep his rebounding numbers up. It would be a huge improvement if he can do it.

@elindholm was mostly right about Bender's rebounding deficiencies except for the past 5 games.

http://www.espn.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/4011991/dragan-bender

 

[Ronin]

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Milwaukee has fired coach Jason Kidd, league sources tell ESPN.

 

[Ronin]

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Bucks assistant coach Joe Prunty will be installed as interim coach, league sources tell ESPN. He will coach Bucks against Phoenix tonight.