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Dudes like Zaza, Delladova, Bowen... you get caught more than once trying to injure people, you should get kicked out of the league, no hyperbole there. They literally should be banned.
 

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Golden State blew out OKC last night to win the first meeting between the two this year with a score of 112-80 and they'll play each other again one more time on April 3rd. Each of their meetings has resulted in a blowout with OKC winning the previous two games 108-91 on November 22nd and 125-105 on February 6th.

Late in the 3rd quarter Zaza Pachulia tried to deliberately injure Westbrook after Westbrook went down on a drive after a collision with Nick Young. Young and Westbrook were trying for the rebound off of Westbrook's miss and Zaza was right there with them but they fell down and Zaza decided to flop onto Russ's leg in what was a blatant dirty play. No one touched Zaza and there was no cause at all for him to fall down like he did. He already has the reputation as a dirty player especially after he undercut Kawhi in the playoffs last year and the league should take action on this. It actually reminded me of when Gronkowski dropped an elbow on Tre'Davious White of the Bills after the play had been blown dead when the Bills and Patriots played in week 13 of the NFL season. Gronk got suspended for 1 game for that hit. However an NBA game shouldn't have a "play" that resembles a dirty hit from an NFL game. This isn't Zaza's first time doing something dirty either. I'd be surprised if he gets any more than a 1 game suspension but they need to watch him closely before he deliberately injures another player. Here is an ESPN article that has Westbrook being interviewed post game where he calls out Zaza for that cheap shot.


For some reason they don't show the cheap shot in that article. You can view that here, in a youtube video that someone made that also includes the Kawhi cheapshot and gets Russ' post game reaction as well as Paul George's take. It also shows another cheap shot Zaza took on Westbrook during a previous meeting after Westbrook came around a pick.

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Here is a link another video with multiple angles of the same play.


After seeing this I don't think his move that took out Kawhi can be called an accident any longer. I know some people gave him the benefit of doubt then but seeing him trying to injure another star player shows that is his MO when he's on the court. Whoever challenges the Warriors needs to watch their stars around Zaza because he'll try and get them out any way he can. It's unfortunate considering the Warriors are a great team anyway and don't need that sort of cloud hanging over their victories.

Yeah... he’s just dirty. FULL STOP. At this point he should be kicked out of the league. He intentionally took one of the best players in the game last playoffs, continues to try and injure players,start fights and provides nothing else but thuggish behavior.
 

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Yeah... he’s just dirty. FULL STOP. At this point he should be kicked out of the league. He intentionally took one of the best players in the game last playoffs, continues to try and injure players,start fights and provides nothing else but thuggish behavior.
Agree. League has to decide if they want this to be hockey or basketball. One or two errors? Fine/suspend. Pattern of behavior, bye bye.
 

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Agree. League has to decide if they want this to be hockey or basketball. One or two errors? Fine/suspend. Pattern of behavior, bye bye.

at the very minimum they need to give repeat offenders like this something that will SERIOUSLY act as deterrent... the fourth or fifth time, slap 'em with 20 games the next couple and if you reach a certain threshold in your career, you're dunzo.
 

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at the very minimum they need to give repeat offenders like this something that will SERIOUSLY act as deterrent... the fourth or fifth time, slap 'em with 20 games the next couple and if you reach a certain threshold in your career, you're dunzo.
I agree the team won’t want to lose simeonebfor 20 games and the thugs aren’t the high earners so losing 20 game checks will hurt.
 

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They need to accept that someone will retaliate against him since the league doesn't seem to care. It's only a matter of time before punches are thrown.

Exactly. Then they will punish the player that reacts to the next incident instead of taking care of the matter now. It shouldn't come down that. Pachulia should have been punished.
 

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They need to accept that someone will retaliate against him since the league doesn't seem to care. It's only a matter of time before punches are thrown.

Retaliation against Zara is pointless. Someone needs to retaliate against Curry and make it HARD.

That’s the only way GS suffers from the consequences from their thugs actions.
 

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I'm kind of surprised that Kerr puts up with that from Zaza also. It makes some sense why he turns a blind eye to a lot of the things Draymond does because he's quite possibly the most valuable player on that Warriors team but Zaza isn't anywhere close to that. He's not a difference maker and is probably the 10th best player on the Warriors roster. As a former player himself though you'd think he wouldn't tolerate cheap shots by his players, especially with that being their only contribution to that team when they're on the court. I could see keeping things quiet behind the scenes but he continues to start him every game.
 

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I'm kind of surprised that Kerr puts up with that from Zaza also. It makes some sense why he turns a blind eye to a lot of the things Draymond does because he's quite possibly the most valuable player on that Warriors team but Zaza isn't anywhere close to that. He's not a difference maker and is probably the 10th best player on the Warriors roster. As a former player himself though you'd think he wouldn't tolerate cheap shots by his players, especially with that being their only contribution to that team when they're on the court. I could see keeping things quiet behind the scenes but he continues to start him every game.

I'm not sure why we would expect better from Kerr.

Popovich tolerated Bruce Bowen and Robert Horry.
 

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Retaliation against Zara is pointless. Someone needs to retaliate against Curry and make it HARD.

That’s the only way GS suffers from the consequences from their thugs actions.
I hate this thought, but cheese is right. Pitchers don’t plunk pitchers they plunk the other teams best hitter. Goons in hockey target the best player on the other team. It would be targeting curry or Durant that would be the equalizer.
 

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I hate this thought, but cheese is right. Pitchers don’t plunk pitchers they plunk the other teams best hitter. Goons in hockey target the best player on the other team. It would be targeting curry or Durant that would be the equalizer.

The NBA league office needs to do it's job, plain and simple, and take punitive actions against Pachulia.

It's a shame the NBA did not take care of it given the clear opportunity.

I don't like the idea of retaliating against a player not involved... I know it happens but I do not like it. IMO, it takes the opposing team down to the same level.
 

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The NBA league office needs to do it's job, plain and simple, and take punitive actions against Pachulia.

It's a shame the NBA did not take care of it given the clear opportunity.

I don't like the idea of retaliating against a player not involved... I know it happens but I do not like it. IMO, it takes the opposing team down to the same level.

If you retaliate against Zaza, you’re doing EXACTLY what they want you to.

Should learned that with Horry. They want your best players to retaliate and explode to take them out if the game. Losing Zaza does nothing, and is well worth it to get into your team’s head.
 

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I hate this thought, but cheese is right. Pitchers don’t plunk pitchers they plunk the other teams best hitter. Goons in hockey target the best player on the other team. It would be targeting curry or Durant that would be the equalizer.

The NBA league office needs to do it's job, plain and simple, and take punitive actions against Pachulia.

It's a shame the NBA did not take care of it given the clear opportunity.

I don't like the idea of retaliating against a player not involved... I know it happens but I do not like it. IMO, it takes the opposing team down to the same level.


The NBA is different than baseball or football with all of the players having direct contact with each other, no separate offense or defense. I know there could be someone who takes a shot at Curry or Durant because of Zaza but I think it's more likely that Zaza tries another cheap shot and a player immediately takes a swing at him. If it's a situation like him falling on Westbrook then I could see someone like Melo or Steven Adams confronting him immediately afterwards. They're not going to try punching Curry on the other side of the floor because Zaza did something 40 feet away. They'll approach Zaza and take a shot at him.
 

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The NBA is different than baseball or football with all of the players having direct contact with each other, no separate offense or defense. I know there could be someone who takes a shot at Curry or Durant because of Zaza but I think it's more likely that Zaza tries another cheap shot and a player immediately takes a swing at him. If it's a situation like him falling on Westbrook then I could see someone like Melo or Steven Adams confronting him immediately afterwards. They're not going to try punching Curry on the other side of the floor because Zaza did something 40 feet away. They'll approach Zaza and take a shot at him.

Wha? No ones saying someone’s going to punch Curry. I’m talking about someone going Zaza on him, “accidentally” taking a shot at his legs.
 

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Wha? No ones saying someone’s going to punch Curry. I’m talking about someone going Zaza on him, “accidentally” taking a shot at his legs.

Originally I said that someone is going to end up throwing punches because of what he does and that's what the league seems to worry about more than other cheap shots being handed out. They suspend players for throwing punches whether they connect or not and have zero tolerance for actual fights but let cheap shots like this go without penalty so I think it's safe to say they're more concerned with someone throwing punches than players being dirty. Yes, someone may take a cheap shot at Curry or Durant, and I acknowledged that, but I think it's much more likely that someone throw punches at Zaza for doing things like this. Basketball isn't like baseball where they have to wait to retaliate. Rather than picking a fight with Curry or Durant, Zaza will get taken out because of this. Cheap shotting Curry or Durant would be close to picking a fight, especially if it's clearly in retaliation to something Zaza does. That's what I'm saying.
 

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