The 2017-2018 Around the NBA thread

[Mainstreet]

Remember when Shabazz was being touted as the next big thing?

I remember. There were plenty of rumors years back the Suns were interested in him. Still, I think he is a good addition for the Bucks. Shabazz' 3-point shooting is a weakness. However, it is hard to believe he is only age 25.

 

[SirStefan32]

Remember when Shabazz was being touted as the next big thing?

Yep, there was a movement on this very board to tank for Baz.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Yep, there was a movement on this very board to tank for Baz.

What? I have no recollection of that at all.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Yep, there was a movement on this very board to tank for Baz.

Uh... from who? I don’t remember that at all.

 

[JCSunsfan]

For those of you that dare, you can go back and read this thread.
http://www.arizonasportsfans.com/forum/threads/2012-2013-nba-prospects-thread.187116/page-64

The first part of the thread is just not fair, it was early in the year. But you can see how we all were all over the board about players. But it WAS one of the worst drafts in NBA history.

General consensus. We all kinda like Oladipo.
Almost universal miss. The Freak, TJ.

 

[Mainstreet]

Plenty of talk early on the thread to vindicate @SirStefan32 on Shabazz being worthy of the Suns pick.

Also plenty of posts that says @AzStevenCal should have been a scout.

I wouldn't take Shabazz, period. There is a chance that he will become a star in the league, something below but approaching the Paul Pierce level but I wouldn't risk it. I say below because even if he can still be dominant once he's playing against other adults, adults that are as strong as him and far more athletic, he's never going to defend. It's pretty clear that isn't in the cards for this guy. I don't think it's possible to watch this guy play regularly and actually like him. Does anyone really want to place this team's future in the hands of a me-first prima donna that has almost as good a chance to be a bust as he does to be a star?

Steve

http://www.arizonasportsfans.com/forum/threads/2012-2013-nba-prospects-thread.187116/page-10

 

[Cheesebeef]

Plenty of talk early on the thread to vindicate @SirStefan32 on Shabazz being worthy of the Suns pick.

Also plenty of posts that says @AzStevenCal should have been a scout.



http://www.arizonasportsfans.com/forum/threads/2012-2013-nba-prospects-thread.187116/page-10

Let’s not get ahead of ourselves. Steve desperately wanted Bennett... the biggest number one pick bust maybe ever.

 

[JCSunsfan]

I could not find anyone that wanted Giannis in any way. I wonder who the Giannis is in this draft.

 

[Mainstreet]

Let’s not get ahead of ourselves. Steve desperately wanted Bennett... the biggest number one pick bust maybe ever.

Mario Bennett?

 

[Cheesebeef]

Plenty of talk early on the thread to vindicate @SirStefan32 on Shabazz being worthy of the Suns pick.


http://www.arizonasportsfans.com/forum/threads/2012-2013-nba-prospects-thread.187116/page-10

Except that’s not what Stefan said. He said there was a “movement” to tank for Shabbaz... when all I saw was one person say “suck for shabazz”. Hardly a “movement” especially since a lot of talk after that he wasn’t what people were expecting or might need to get away from Homeland to flourish.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Mario Bennett?

No... that massive number 1 Pick bust the Cavs took in that draft.

 

[Mainstreet]

No... that massive number 1 Pick bust the Cavs took in that draft.

I messed up on Anthony Bennett. Probably persuaded AzStevenCal to like him... if he did.

 

[Mainstreet]

Except that’s not what Stefan said. He said there was a “movement” to tank for Shabbaz... when all I saw was one person say “suck for shabazz”. Hardly a “movement” especially since a lot of talk after that he wasn’t what people were expecting or might need to get away from Homeland to flourish.

Every movement has a leader. I saw posters who wanted Shabazz.

 

[SirStefan32]

Thanks guys! I was too busy to look it up. Thanks for finding it!

 

[Cheesebeef]

Every movement has a leader. I saw posters who wanted Shabazz.

Yeah... they also have followers, which that “movement” didn’t. I mean, you do realize there’s a mountain of difference between some posters wanting Shabazz and wanting to tank for Shabazz, right?

This kind of specious, I can’t admit I’m wrong so I’ll move the goalposts on the argument is super annoying and what leads to a lot of my snark.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Thanks guys! I was too busy to look it up. Thanks for finding it!

Do you really think that thread shows a movement to tank for Shabazz?

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Every movement has a leader. I saw posters who wanted Shabazz.

Wanting him and wanting tank for him are two different things.

There have always been players I wanted. I haven’t overtly called for a tank until the last two years due to the value of the players matched with my perception of how bad the team was likely to be that season.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Yeah... they also have followers, which that “movement” didn’t. I mean, you do realize there’s a mountain of difference between some posters wanting Shabazz and wanting to tank for Shabazz, right?

This kind of specious, I can’t admit I’m wrong so I’ll move the goalposts on the argument is super annoying and what leads to a lot of my snark.

Jeez we should just merge our profiles already and call ourselves Cheesy-z-clown or Ouchbeef.

 

[Mainstreet]

Yeah... they also have followers, which that “movement” didn’t. I mean, you do realize there’s a mountain of difference between some posters wanting Shabazz and wanting to tank for Shabazz, right?

This kind of specious, I can’t admit I’m wrong so I’ll move the goalposts on the argument is super annoying and what leads to a lot of my snark.

Sometimes arguments are made for the fun of it.

No excuse for snark though.

 

[Mainstreet]

Wanting him and wanting tank for him are two different things.

There have always been players I wanted. I haven’t overtly called for a tank until the last two years due to the value of the players matched with my perception of how bad the team was likely to be that season.

Every time tank is mentioned you pop up.

I defer to your judgement.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Sometimes arguments are made for the fun of it.

No excuse for snark though.

So, it’s okay to just troll making arguments where they don’t exist, but snark is right out?

Makes sense.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Jeez we should just merge our profiles already and call ourselves Cheesy-z-clown or Ouchbeef.

I kinda like Beefy-Z-Clown

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I kinda like Beefy-Z-Clown

Maybe just Beefclown.

 

[Mainstreet]

So, it’s okay to just troll making arguments where they don’t exist, but snark is right out?

Makes sense.

When comments are made in good taste and plausible (not to mention humor), I have no problem with it.

Snark is out.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Maybe just Beefclown.

Clownbeef has a better ring to it.