The 2018-2019 Around the NBA thread

[95pro]

Maybe the Suns are waiting for the Rockets to actually waive Melo? Dare I say he might help. That's how far we've fallen. With Melo we wouldn't be scoring 9 points in the 1st quarter. I'm surprised by that stat about how this is the first time in the shot clock era a team has been held under 10 points in the 1st quarter in back to back games. That's worse than last year 30-40 point blowouts to start the year. We still lose by 30-40 but we just get a head start doing so.

We don’t rebound or play defense anyway, bring him on.

 

[AzStevenCal]

We don’t rebound or play defense anyway, bring him on.

I don't like him but he's still good enough to be the 9th or 10th player on an average roster so that would make him our 3rd best so yeah, he'd probably improve us a little. But I think he ends up in LA, or at least I hope he does.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

We don’t rebound or play defense anyway, bring him on.

Except all he would do is further perpetuate that thing that we should be trying to get away from. We should be searching for PF type players that will strive on hustle and athleticism. I would imagine we could find someone in the g-league that could bring some of the same things as Holmes, but at the PF position.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Maybe the Suns are waiting for the Rockets to actually waive Melo? Dare I say he might help.

I don't know. I feel like that's saying to a stage 4 lung-cancer patient that why don't we inject you with a little pancreatic cancer... maybe it will help.

the locker-room situation between players and coach is already pretty rough from reports. bringing in a team destroyer like Melo to a team that's already destroyed doesn't seem like the move in any way shape or form. would only make us somehow more dysfunctional and probably even more completely clueless in the eyes of the rest of the league and media.

 

[AzStevenCal]

I don't know. I feel like that's saying to a stage 4 lung-cancer patient that why don't we inject you with a little pancreatic cancer... maybe it will help.

the locker-room situation between players and coach is already pretty rough from reports. bringing in a team destroyer like Melo to a team that's already destroyed doesn't seem like the move in any way shape or form. would only make us somehow more dysfunctional and probably even more completely clueless in the eyes of the rest of the league and media.

The only part of this I would disagree with is that surprisingly we've heard mostly good things from the younger guys about Carmelo as a teammate. He could be the greatest teammate in the world and I wouldn't want him on the Suns but locker room chemistry might not be impaired by his addition. He might unite them against coaching or management but at this point, I'm not sure how much of a negative that would be.

 

[Hoop Head]

So the Cav's traded George Hill and their 2022 2nd round pick to the Bucks for Delladova, John Henson, and a future 1st round pick, as well their 2nd round pick in 2021. The Wizards are involved also and are getting Sam Dekker from the Cavs and sending them Jason Smith and a future 2nd round pick. I've checked a few sites and can't find info on the 1st the Bucks are sending except for it's a ways away since they owe the Suns a pick, so it won't remove protection from our pick to make it convey sooner so the Cavs can get their pick. The Bucks pick becomes unprotected with us in 2021 so the soonest the pick they traded the Cavs would be 2023, I think, unless there is something about it conveying sooner if the pick they owe us ends up coming our way sooner.

https://sports.yahoo.com/bucks-acquired-george-hill-trade-means-cavs-000900861.html

I checked the Bucks site and CBS sports as well as another Yahoo article and none had info on the 1st. The main reason the Bucks did this is George Hill is only guaranteed 1 million in salary next year while Henson and Delladova were on their books for a while longer. They have Brodgon, Bledsoe, and Middleton hitting free agency this summer and will need cash sooner than later so it makes sense for them to rent Hill for now. They're deep at PG now though, I hope there is something in the works with Ariza for Brodgon and filler.

 

[Hoop Head]

Report coming out that the Lakers have zero interest in adding Melo. I know they were rumored to be a destination and a lot of people thought that might happen also with the Lebron connection.

https://sports.yahoo.com/report-lakers-no-interest-acquiring-carmelo-anthony-181839073.html

A writer for the LA Times says it's not happening either, as another source saying they don't want Melo.

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Who knows if he finds another team soon. I'm sure someone will gamble on him later this year as the playoffs get closer.

I think it's a good thing the Suns haven't tried inquiring about him. That is a move I feared Sarver would want to make, thinking he would help, and with James Jones in the front office and him being Lebron's buddy it didn't seem that far fetched because Lebron has said he thinks Melo can still play and help a team and that his career shouldn't end like this. That doesn't mean he wants him in LA though. Glad he hasn't talked his buddy James Jones into it though.

 

[GatorAZ]

Steph has hit 84/168 on 3-pt shots this year.

 

[Russ Smith]

Steph has hit 84/168 on 3-pt shots this year.

That's why the injury thing is so disheartening he's been shooting at an amazing level this year. 10.5 3s per game making exactly half of them, shooting over 51% overall, and 93% from the line.

BTW they didn't say it but it looked like Steph aggravated the injury last night in the last 5-10 seconds of the game. Just took an awkward step while dribbling out the clock and then grimaced and dropped the ball. While all teh players were walking off, Steph looked quite uncomfortable.

 

[sdscard4]

Lucky he has a great shot cause I think his wheels can't hold up much longer. I will be glad to see the Warriors become human again

 

[Mainstreet]

I wonder if the Suns will go after Ntilikina. He is supposed to have defensive skills which might be effective playing besides Booker.

Frank Ntilikina hasn't played since November 28th as he missed his third straight game with a DNP-CD.

“We have to know who’s moving forward out of this group. And it won’t be every single player on this roster, unfortunately,” remarked Fizdale.

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/251846/Frank-Ntilikina-Misses-Third-Straight-Game-With-DNP-CD

 

[Hoop Head]

I wonder if the Suns will go after Ntilikina. He is supposed to have defensive skills which might be effective playing besides Booker.

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/251846/Frank-Ntilikina-Misses-Third-Straight-Game-With-DNP-CD

If he's available for a similar cost as Elfrid Payton was last year, which cost a 2nd round pick, and I'd include an additional 2nd rounder as well for him. To make salaries work I guess either Bender or Daniels would also need to be included. Perhaps that is why Daniels saw a bit more time recently?

I'd rather not trade Bender right now unless we know of a big who can be had for our 3rd Center. So Daniels and a couple 2nd's for French Frank? It works with their salaries and perhaps he helps fill our PG gap. However if New York is willing to give up a on lottery pick from last year I'm not sure he'll help much.

Ntilikina would cost us an extra $5 million next year but though but I guess if we're not paying Bender, or Chriss, that might not be so bad. Last time I tried to look up how much cap space we'd have ew had both of them in question, I believe, or Chriss might have already been deal but Bender's option hadn't been declined.

 

[AzStevenCal]

If Frank had been a 2nd round pick, nobody here would even mention his name. He was horrible when he entered the league, he is no better today. He has a 2 to 1 assist ratio and he can't shoot; IOW he can't play the 1 or the 2 so why bother?

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

If Frank had been a 2nd round pick, nobody here would even mention his name. He was horrible when he entered the league, he is no better today. He has a 2 to 1 assist ratio and he can't shoot; IOW he can't play the 1 or the 2 so why bother?

Yup agree. He’s the guard version of bender. High draft pick selected on potential that’s not really there. If the knicks are cutting him loose he’s gotta be bad.

 

[Mainstreet]

If he's available for a similar cost as Elfrid Payton was last year, which cost a 2nd round pick, and I'd include an additional 2nd rounder as well for him. To make salaries work I guess either Bender or Daniels would also need to be included. Perhaps that is why Daniels saw a bit more time recently?

I'd rather not trade Bender right now unless we know of a big who can be had for our 3rd Center. So Daniels and a couple 2nd's for French Frank? It works with their salaries and perhaps he helps fill our PG gap. However if New York is willing to give up a on lottery pick from last year I'm not sure he'll help much.

Ntilikina would cost us an extra $5 million next year but though but I guess if we're not paying Bender, or Chriss, that might not be so bad. Last time I tried to look up how much cap space we'd have ew had both of them in question, I believe, or Chriss might have already been deal but Bender's option hadn't been declined.

If the Suns have better trade options than Ntilikina I'd prefer they go another direction. I'm not sure Okobo Melton or even Evans will not be better. That said, his contract should be easy to move if it doesn't work out. Also he is only 20 years old.

I'm not so sure Daniels does not have better trade value so I wouldn't give the Knicks anything extra unless it is a conditional second round pick.

 

[AzStevenCal]

If the Suns have better trade options than Ntilikina I'd prefer they go another direction. I'm not sure Okobo Melton or even Evans will not be better. That said, his contract should be easy to move if it doesn't work out. Also he is only 20 years old.

I'm not so sure Daniels does not have better trade value so I wouldn't give the Knicks anything extra unless it is a conditional second round pick.

I'd give up a 2nd rounder for any player that we thought had even an outside chance of helping us. I don't see that in Frank but who knows?

 

[Mainstreet]

I'd give up a 2nd rounder for any player that we thought had even an outside chance of helping us. I don't see that in Frank but who knows?

The Suns second round pick in 2019 might be the first pick in the second round so I'm not prone to trade it away so easily. To a team that knows how to draft, this is almost like a first round pick. The Suns gave up a lesser second round pick for Payton whom I thought more highly.

However, since the Suns are not scouting the 2019 draft, they may consider their second round pick like play money.

 

[Proximo]

If Frank had been a 2nd round pick, nobody here would even mention his name. He was horrible when he entered the league, he is no better today. He has a 2 to 1 assist ratio and he can't shoot; IOW he can't play the 1 or the 2 so why bother?

If he can't even get a minute for the knicks as a second year player, why on god's green earth do people want him?

Let me spell it out - that means he is not an NBA player - those are available all over in the g-league with no trade required and no guaranteed salary

 

[GatorAZ]

Now that’s accountability!

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[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Now that’s accountability!

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Good for him.

 

[Ronin]

Luka Donic has a fire in his belly....can’t teach that.

 

[sunsfan88]

Luka Donic has a fire in his belly....can’t teach that.

Hope this doesn't end up like one of those times when taking the big over the wing who went right afterwards ends up really wrong.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Hope this doesn't end up like one of those times when taking the big over the wing who went right afterwards ends up really wrong.

Except he didn’t go right after. Bagley did.

 

[sunsfan88]

Except he didn’t go right after. Bagley did.

Stand corrected.

 

[Beaver]

PHX/LAL taking Ariza. JJ trying to help out his buddy Lebron again.