The 2019-2020 Around the NBA thread

[95pro]

Marcus Morris is still making enemies around the league. I am so glad we got ride of both of them.

https://sports.yahoo.com/gregg-popo...ure-that-left-spurs-blindsided-032132149.html

I think the morris brothers are doing well, i think it was more McD than either of these guys. Klutch didn't do Marcus well if i remember correctly.

 

[Phrazbit]

I think the morris brothers are doing well, i think it was more McD than either of these guys. Klutch didn't do Marcus well if i remember correctly.

The Morris brothers beat up some dude at a pick up game and trashed the fans, that is what got them ran outta town... you blame McD for that?

 

[JCSunsfan]

The Morris brothers beat up some dude at a pick up game and trashed the fans, that is what got them ran outta town... you blame McD for that?

An old dude, and put him in the hospital!

 

[95pro]

The Morris brothers beat up some dude at a pick up game and trashed the fans, that is what got them ran outta town... you blame McD for that?

I forgot about that

 

[Mainstreet]

Reportedly Porzingis is ready to go for the Mavericks. Doncic and Porzingis should be tough for opponents.


Dwain Price‏Verified account @DwainPrice

Carlisle said Porzingis' rehab is complete. @dallasmavs @NBA

10:03 AM - 30 Sep 2019 from Dallas, TX

 

[Mainstreet]

Kyle Kuzma said to become a face of Puma.


Shams Charania‏Verified account @ShamsCharania

Lakers forward Kyle Kuzma (@kylekuzma) has signed a five-year endorsement deal with Puma, becoming a face of the company, sources tell @TheAthleticNBA @Stadium.

7:26 AM - 2 Oct 2019

 

[GatorAZ]

Lilliard should just stop. Crediting Shaq’s titles to Kobe is a terrible take (and I’m a Kobe defender). If you want to say he rode Wade’s coattails it would be accurate.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

Lilliard should just stop. Crediting Shaq’s titles to Kobe is a terrible take (and I’m a Kobe defender). If you want to say he rode Wade’s coattails it would be accurate.

NOt sure I agree with that either. He may not have been as important as Wade to that championship team, but they absolutely don't win that title with a lesser center either.

 

[GatorAZ]

NOt sure I agree with that either. He may not have been as important as Wade to that championship team, but they absolutely don't win that title with a lesser center either.

For sure but Wade was superhuman in the postseason. Everyone talks about his finals and how it was officiated but he was actually better in the ECF vs Detroit with half the free throws. Detroit won 64 games that year and had homecourt. Wade posted nearly a .70 TS% in that series. Shaq was great too.

Looking at that roster outside of Wade/Shaq it was complete over the hill garbage. Not sure we wouldn’t have run them out the gym even without Amare.

 

[Mainstreet]

I guess Spencer Dinwiddie is going ahead with idea to use his contract as an investment vehicle.

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[Mainstreet]

Kellan Olson‏Verified account @KellanOlson

T.J. Warren had a game-high 30 points in his first preseason game (and win) with the Pacers.

9:38 AM - 4 Oct 2019

 

[Mainstreet]

This might have been posted but Zion measured 6'6" without shoes.

Zion Williams was officially measured at 6-foot-6 without shoes as the NBA installs new rules for teams to verify accurate player heights.

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/255589/Zion-Williamson-Officially-Measured-At-6-Foot-6

This might impact him playing small ball center.

 

[Mainstreet]

Lakers sign David Stockton.


Shams Charania‏Verified account @ShamsCharania

The Lakers have signed guard David Stockton, son of Hall of Famer John Stockton.

11:21 AM - 4 Oct 2019

 

[JCSunsfan]

Kellan Olson‏Verified account @KellanOlson

T.J. Warren had a game-high 30 points in his first preseason game (and win) with the Pacers.

9:38 AM - 4 Oct 2019

This should not surprise us. We all know TJ is a prolific scorer.

We do have to get over the idea of "winning" trades. The point is to get the best roster you can. Sometimes it is worth it to "lose" a trade to get the roster where you want it. I think McD's problem was this type of thinking (among other problems). He wanted to win every trade, either in the initial evaluation or down the road. He did not think about roster balance at all it seemed.

 

[BC867]

This might have been posted but Zion measured 6'6" without shoes.

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/255589/Zion-Williamson-Officially-Measured-At-6-Foot-6

This might impact him playing small ball center.

But if the new sneaker-less measurement applies to all NBA players, their proportions would remain the same.

The Chuckster was honest about his 6'6" actually being 6'4 1/2", while all of the others went by the taller heights.
But it didn't change a thing about competing on the court.

And, as I've posted before, the bulk of a Center is just as important as his height concerning dominance in the paint.

I haven't posted in a while that my favorite Barkley ploy on defense was when he leaned into the back of the player
on offense then, at just the right moment, took a couple of steps back as the the player with the ball started leaning
into (what he thought was) Chuck, but was nothing but space, as he went toppling backwards.

 

[Mainstreet]

This should not surprise us. We all know TJ is a prolific scorer.

We do have to get over the idea of "winning" trades. The point is to get the best roster you can. Sometimes it is worth it to "lose" a trade to get the roster where you want it. I think McD's problem was this type of thinking (among other problems). He wanted to win every trade, either in the initial evaluation or down the road. He did not think about roster balance at all it seemed.

In this case, yes. I think Warren wanted to be traded. He probably should have been traded earlier.

However, I can see Warren's name coming up if Oubre and Bridges are not ready to go to start the season. They haven't been able to practice in training camp thus far but I haven't heard anything about today.

 

[JCSunsfan]

In this case, yes. I think Warren wanted to be traded. He probably should have been traded earlier.

However, I can see Warren's name coming up if Oubre and Bridges are not ready to go to start the season. They haven't been able to practice in training camp thus far but I haven't heard anything about today.

There is just no way Oubre, Bridges, TJ, and Saric should be on the same roster. The first three are true SF's and Saric takes the stretch four role away from Oubre and TJ. Sometimes you just have to commit to your roster. They could choose two of three. They chose Oubre and Bridges. Both are more complete players than TJ even though TJ is the more prolific scorer. But when you have Booker, the other skills matter more. Its about the roster balance.

 

[Mainstreet]

But if the new sneaker-less measurement applies to all NBA players, their proportions would remain the same.

The Chuckster was honest about his 6'6" actually being 6'4 1/2", while all of the others went by the taller heights.
But it didn't change a thing about competing on the court.

And, as I've posted before, the bulk of a Center is just as important as his height concerning dominance in the paint.

I haven't posted in a while that my favorite Barkley ploy on defense was when he leaned into the back of the player
on offense then, at just the right moment took a couple of steps back as the the player with the ball started leaning
into (what he thought was) Chuck, but was nothing but space, as he went toppling backwards.

Exactly. Zion takes up space and is strong and athletic much like Barkley. It shouldn't be a problem for him.

Those are classic Barkley moves you describe. Also Barkley had the rear end which he used to clear room.

I'd like to know the correct height of every player without shoes.

 

[Chaplin]

There is just no way Oubre, Bridges, TJ, and Saric should be on the same roster. The first three are true SF's and Saric takes the stretch four role away from Oubre and TJ. Sometimes you just have to commit to your roster. They could choose two of three. They chose Oubre and Bridges. Both are more complete players than TJ even though TJ is the more prolific scorer. But when you have Booker, the other skills matter more. Its about the roster balance.

But TJ is so below average in virtually every other category. I can't for the life of me even picture him as a player on the team as constructed today.

Also keep in mind, the Pacers were playing the Kings in a meaningless game. In the East, he's going to face much better defense when games actually count.

 

[Carolinacacti]

TJ most improved player award, sixth man award and you know he will stay healthy all year. Jackson, TJ < Oubre, Bridges.

 

[Mainstreet]

TJ most improved player award, sixth man award and you know he will stay healthy all year. Jackson, TJ < Oubre, Bridges.

It could happen. Warren may prove to be a steal for the Pacers but that doesn't mean it would have worked for the Suns.

 

[Finito]

This should not surprise us. We all know TJ is a prolific scorer.

We do have to get over the idea of "winning" trades. The point is to get the best roster you can. Sometimes it is worth it to "lose" a trade to get the roster where you want it. I think McD's problem was this type of thinking (among other problems). He wanted to win every trade, either in the initial evaluation or down the road. He did not think about roster balance at all it seemed.

“Prolific” um no. Meaningless points then yes.

I honestly don’t ever remember TJ taking over a game or even late game heroics.

 

[Mainstreet]

Can in-game betting for games at the arena be on the horizon? I hope not.

In a partnership announced Thursday, betting company William Hill and Monumental Sports & Entertainment, which owns pro basketball and hockey teams in the nation's capital, said they would open a sports book inside Capital One Arena as soon as necessary approvals are obtained.

No estimated opening date was given, but signs at the arena indicate a 2020 opening is contemplated.

https://www.espn.com/chalk/story/_/id/27761431/william-hill-open-sports-book-capital-one-arena

 

[Hoop Head]

“Prolific” um no. Meaningless points then yes.

I honestly don’t ever remember TJ taking over a game or even late game heroics.

Glad you mentioned that. I don't think there was a game where TJ took over with his scoring like Booker has, or others around the league. I can't think of one either. To go a little further with it, I can't think of a game in the 2nd half of last season where I thought "If only TJ was playing, we'd win".

He's a very good 3rd option for a team but he won't win you games and ideally he would be a sixth man. Since he didn't like coming off the bench here, it was time to move on. Maybe he accepts that role on a team like the Pacers, who should be playoff contenders, but his time here was up.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Cmon. Credit where credit is due. TJ is a prolific scorer, and not just in garbage minutes. He is not the "carry a team on his back all by himself" type of scorer, but he can score in bunches and in important minutes. His speed from catch to score is as good as I have ever seen. Its his defense and rebounding that are not where they should be. I don't care much about his passing because his offensive efficiency makes it foolish for him to pass to less efficient players.