The 2022 NBA Play-In Tournament + Playoffs Thread

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

You've obviously forgotten about Elfrid Payton's hair.

Point taken.

 

[GatorAZ]

I don’t have a problem with the result of player getting injured impacting the penalty further. Had GP not gotten hurt on that play it’s not getting blown up the way it has but that’s a significant injury so a message should be sent. Brooks has been so bad it probably won’t affect them negatively TBH.

 

[Cheesebeef]

The reason is because of the injury. Green’s foul— I’m sorry-/was less severe than this one by far. And, if people are going to claim that whar green did was intentional then bye no means people state what Brooks did was anything less than intentional.

I get it, we all demonize people we hate and make excuses for the people we like.

No one here likes Brooks. Green is a piece of crap on the court. Plain and simple.

 

[Russ Smith]

I don’t have a problem with the result of player getting injured impacting the penalty further. Had GP not gotten hurt on that play it’s not getting blown up the way it has but that’s a significant injury so a message should be sent. Brooks has been so bad it probably won’t affect them negatively TBH.

Agreed for years people get hurt in the playoffs and everyone says if you injure someone on a flagrant foul you should have to sit out until that player gets back. Nobody ever does anything about it though. The league seems to be somewhat doing something by saying if your flagrant injures someone, we're suspending you 1 game.

I fully expect that with Brooks, if it doesn't happen no problem. And yes you could easily argue that Melton was WAY better than Brooks. Brooks defends but so does Melton. 2 of the biggest plays of the game were his block on Poole and his block on Curry.

 

[nashman]

Again the league said the reason for the suspensions before was the flagrant caused an injury. Greens' didn't so no suspension, Brooks did so he'll probably get one.

I can't figure out how to freeze it and screenshot but find a reverse angle and look at it you will see how far away from the ball Brooks is when he swings. Unless he is plastic man he was not going to reach that ball from where he was. He did exactly what he intended to do a hard foul. It's just because of where Payton was, in the air, he was unable to land safely. I don't believe he intended to injure Payton, but he wasn't trying to block the shot he was trying to foul Payton.

Ok so you don’t believe he intended to injure just foul, therefore NOT a dirty play right? He was just trying to hard foul not give up a layup which is not a dirty play. Forget the result as that was more about how Payton tried to catch himself and not an intended result of a foul.

 

[Russ Smith]

Ok so you don’t believe he intended to injure just foul, therefore NOT a dirty play right? He was just trying to hard foul not give up a layup which is not a dirty play. Forget the result as that was more about how Payton tried to catch himself and not an intended result of a foul.

OK I see where the issue is we have a different definition of a dirty foul. To me a dirty play is when you knowingly put the other guy at risk. Hitting a guy in the air like that is a dirty play. That's why Draymonds was an issue he hit the guy in the air first and then pulled him down. Both of those potentially can cause injury.

Marcus Smart put Steph on the injury list but it was a fluke play diving for a ball. Some people said they thought it was reckless or dirty, I didn't, he was going for the ball ish happens. Dillon Brooks wasn't making a basketball play IMO he was trying to foul him, hard, and it went wrong.

It's also why I hate guys like Grayson Allen who trip people or people who try to draw charges too close to the basket. IF you know the guy is going to be in the air on the way down when the contact happens that's risky.

Brooks I said this in this exact thread in the first game, going back to Oregon he does this thing on inbounds where he's guarding the guy who wants the ball. He puts his foot between there feet and bodies them up so the only way they can move is forward, if they go left or right they trip over his foot, they can't back up because his body is there. He did it twice to Steph in the first game and once knocked him down, you could see Steph telling the ref he's trying to trip me. Did that his entire career at Oregon. He's trying to make you only have one way to go the problem is it almost guarantees a trip if you don't go that way.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Marcus Smart put Steph on the injury list but it was a fluke play diving for a ball. Some people said they thought it was reckless or dirty, I didn't, he was going for the ball ish happens. Dillon Brooks wasn't making a basketball play IMO he was trying to foul him, hard, and it went wrong.

It's also why I hate guys like Grayson Allen who trip people or people who try to draw charges too close to the basket. IF you know the guy is going to be in the air on the way down when the contact happens that's risky.

Brooks I said this in this exact thread in the first game, going back to Oregon he does this thing on inbounds where he's guarding the guy who wants the ball. He puts his foot between there feet and bodies them up so the only way they can move is forward, if they go left or right they trip over his foot, they can't back up because his body is there. He did it twice to Steph in the first game and once knocked him down, you could see Steph telling the ref he's trying to trip me. Did that his entire career at Oregon. He's trying to make you only have one way to go the problem is it almost guarantees a trip if you don't go that way.

I disagree on the Marcus Smart foul, IMO he was channeling Bruce Bowen (something he does often). I know I'm in the distinct minority on this but I've watched it many times and I'm convinced he intentionally dove at Curry's leg. Yes, he was diving for the ball too but he dove to the Curry side of the ball for no reason other than to make contact. And Smart processes the game quickly and has excellent control of his body, he knew exactly what he was doing.

 

[Phrazbit]

It was dirty and it warrants a suspension... however, I also think that when you employ Draymond Green you're asking for the opposition to play reckless.

I have no doubt that Green will wipe someone out at some point in this series and claim it was retaliation, but for him it is in his nature.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

No one here likes Brooks. Green is a piece of crap on the court. Plain and simple.

Pretty much this. I actually like draymond more than brooks but think he’s much dirtier b

 

[Mainstreet]

Gary Payton II will miss at least three weeks and has not been ruled out for the Finals.

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[Hoop Head]

Gary Payton II will miss at least three weeks and has not been ruled out for the Finals.

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He's done. While I can see holding out some hope, there's no way that he returns for even game 7 in the finals and that's if each series lasts as long as possible. That sort of injury will take about 6-8 weeks to heal to the point where he can start rehabbing.

 

[Russ Smith]

Gary Payton II will miss at least three weeks and has not been ruled out for the Finals.

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Yeah locally it's 3 to 5 weeks which is good because it means it probably is NOT a radial head fracture the fracture is something else.

 

[Mainstreet]

He's done. While I can see holding out some hope, there's no way that he returns for even game 7 in the finals and that's if each series lasts as long as possible. That sort of injury will take about 6-8 weeks to heal to the point where he can start rehabbing.

Yeah locally it's 3 to 5 weeks which is good because it means it probably is NOT a radial head fracture the fracture is something else.

It's something to watch. The whole thing now is making it to the Finals.

 

[Russ Smith]

It's something to watch. The whole thing now is making it to the Finals.

Oh I said that earlier without him getting past Memphis is much harder he's the best defensive guard we have to put on Ja.

Also, the primary concern I have is Payton's career. If it is a radial head fracture it could be a huge issue. Again Chris Mullin was on last night after the game, you can find it online he said dirty play, not basketball, if you did that on a playground you'd start a brawl. Dorrell Wright who's on the same show said if you did that in my hood your own team would not defend you if a brawl happened.

But then Mullin talked about the actual injury. Again not that long ago he disclosed he'd worked with Payton off and on this year on his shooting, said us lefties have to stick together. everyone who's ever coached Payton has had the same idea if he can just improve his shooting and playmaking he'd be a hell of a role player. He finally found that role this year, improved shot, fit the system perfectly. There's lots of talk the Warriors may not be able to afford to keep him because other teams want him now, he's in a contract year. And then he breaks his elbow. If it's a radial head fracture the odds of him coming back 100% are lower and it could impact his future career.

So I'm really hoping this report is true even if he can't get back in time to play again in the playoffs I'm hoping he can play next year, hopefully for the W's.

 

[Suns_fan69]

That sucks for GP, he was such a feel good story this year.

 

[GatorAZ]

The hell is up with the schedule? I mean it benefits the Suns assuming we wrap up the series earlier and get to rest but when’s the last time there were no NBA games on a night in b2b weeks?

 

[Russ Smith]

Dillon Brooks suspended for game 3 as expected.

 

[Suns_fan69]

The hell is up with the schedule? I mean it benefits the Suns assuming we wrap up the series earlier and get to rest but when’s the last time there were no NBA games on a night in b2b weeks?

Honestly, I thought this was a disadvantage for Phoenix, but given Luka's minutes, having this steady slate of games means no meaningful recovery for Dallas. If Phoenix can wrap this quick, they can get that rest between series.

 

[Dback Jon]

Honestly, I thought this was a disadvantage for Phoenix, but given Luka's minutes, having this steady slate of games means no meaningful recovery for Dallas. If Phoenix can wrap this quick, they can get that rest between series.

Agreed

 

[JCSunsfan]

Dillon Brooks suspended for game 3 as expected.

If Kerr had not said anything, he would not have been suspended.

 

[Russ Smith]

If Kerr had not said anything, he would not have been suspended.

No it's consistent with the other players who got injured by flagrant fouls. The person who committed the foul got suspended 1 game.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

If Kerr had not said anything, he would not have been suspended.

This is untrue.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

CP3 deserve an Oscar for this performance.

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[Chaplin]

CP3 deserve an Oscar for this performance.

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To be fair we can’t see what is going on with Brunson’s right arm but CP definitely sold it.

 

[Russ Smith]

I would not have guessed it but Draymond is averaging 42 assists per "100 possessions used" which is apparently by far the best ratio in the playoffs. I assume they're talking about usage.

I honestly feel like his passing has been off way too many turnovers but statistically I'm wrong.