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Dont buy it. There was good effort across the board in that Ram game just last week. The QB play killed it nothing more or less.

Division game, still a sliver of hope for the division, and they get drove at home by another pathetic team. Yeah "Good effort". Call it like I see it. They stunk up the joint.
 

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Another pile on by the mousey little groupthink leader. Good Job

thank you!

but, as the groupthink leader, considering that I've said Wiz is completely out to lunch in recent weeks and that almost all of my confidence in him has been completely sapped, how much sense does that make to your point that the the "Whizzers think he can do no wrong" mantra? It doesn't, which only further validates my point about you being mentally ********. I wasn't asking for back-up to that point, but thanks for providing it anyway!

Good job! :)
 
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Division game, still a sliver of hope for the division, and they get drove at home by another pathetic team. Yeah "Good effort". Call it like I see it. The QB's stunk up the joint.

FTFY!
 

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I'm not going to defend Whiz after the Matt fiasco, that was so bizzarely handled and the resulting "fix" for it turned out to smell like so much ass that he lost me on that one.

Before that I was solidly a supporter of his, but maybe a lot of that was misplaced.

This year is a disaster, meltdown, turd on the field.

No one is really injured to speak of, certainly not more than average injuries and yet we stink bad.

The players are making the statement about him louder than we can, their play pretty much says it all.

He lost me there too. Most of these guys are playing for the paycheck right now and have written the season off. There are a few who just seem to love the game (Adams, LSH are a couple) but most including Fitz is mailing it in.

They can't wait until week 17 is history.
 

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Yeah sure, Qb's gave up 100+ on the ground and allowed Bradford all the time he needed but ok. I will give you that THT did show up and then they refused to use him effectivly in the second half. You have that going for you. The Qb's did suck though.
 

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Pep Boys, represent.

Thats right you do have a cute little name for yourselves....how....... gay. Not that there is anything wrong with that.
 
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Thats right you do have a cute little name for yourselves....how....... gay. Not that there is anything wrong with that.

better than the gay nicknames you give us.
 

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I'm not going to defend Whiz after the Matt fiasco, that was so bizzarely handled and the resulting "fix" for it turned out to smell like so much ass that he lost me on that one.

Conrad, I like to think you're smart and reasonable most of the time, but this is just ridiculous. Obviously the Matt situation was unfortunate, but until Matt proves that he's a decent NFL qb, it's all completely speculative. Just think about it. The NFL is a league filled with teams desperate for starting qbs. Don't you think it's a little bizarre that the guy couldn't even get a job as an NFL backup? If he really is as good as some here like to profess, do you think there is a league wide conspiracy to blackball Leinart?

After Leinart was cut, what would you have done to fix it? There were no attractive available options at QB, and we're running into the same problem that every mediocre to bad team does, we don't have a qb, and we sure as hell don't have a dominant D to prop up the team. In fact, we have a BOTTOM THREE DEFENSE.

People can speculate as much as they want about who we should have or could have brought in at QB, but these things don't happen in a vacuum. Guys like Bulger seem like a better option at face value, but the team didn't want to pony up the money. Is that on Whiz? Maybe he wanted McNabb and the team didn't think he was worth the price. (At this point, obviously it's not) Is that on Whiz?

Do I wish Leinart was the knight in shining armor and the "gift from heaven"? HELL YES, every real fan here does. But wishing it so, and then irrationally holding on to that belief when all evidence points to it not being true is the definition of obtuse.

The bottom line is, Kurt covered up a lot of warts on this team. From a weak oline that benefited from his quick release, to a mediocre running game that was propped up by teams keying on the pass with 6 DB's, to a fraud of a defense that put pressure on the offense to score on almost every drive.

It's amazing that some here thought that losing your hall of fame QB, the heart and soul of the team, and your best defensive player would not affect things. It's hard as hell to win in this league, and damn near impossible if your qb isn't elite. We have the worst qb's in football and nearly the worst defense? What do people expect?

Does that absolve Whiz of all blame? Of course not. He plays some part in personnel decisions, and it's his job to lead the team. That being said, he was dealt a crap hand, and much of that is on the personnel department. Considering Whiz has given this team the ONLY credibility it has ever had in the last....well ever, you'd think people would have enough perspective to see what he'd do with a decent qb on board. But, then again, expecting perspective from many here is a tall order.
 

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Conrad, I like to think you're smart and reasonable most of the time, but this is just ridiculous. Obviously the Matt situation was unfortunate, but until Matt proves that he's a decent NFL qb, it's all completely speculative. Just think about it. The NFL is a league filled with teams desperate for starting qbs. Don't you think it's a little bizarre that the guy couldn't even get a job as an NFL backup? If he really is as good as some here like to profess, do you think there is a league wide conspiracy to blackball Leinart?

After Leinart was cut, what would you have done to fix it? ]

I am not going to address all of your arguement but the problem I see is that you run right back into the one thing Whiz controlled (maybe, if the front office didn't make the call) HE DIDN't HAVE TO CUT HIM. We argue, in a weak division( the weakest)that Matt would have managed the game enough to win it( Ultimately all any of us care about)and the team would have rallied around him and played well enough to "hide there warts" for one more season.Not argueing that Matt was the next coming of Elway just not Gino Terretta.

You would rather argue after the fact what could have been done but the choice didn't have to be to cut Matt. Whis needs to own that. He chose to start rebuilding a year early because Matt was not his guy and he didn't see the Cards winning the division with him.
 

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Truth be told, the Pep Boys was given to us by The Smel. So we have that going for us.

What can you say....the guy has a flare for words...what are you going to do he had you guys pegged.:}
 

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Thats right you do have a cute little name for yourselves....how....... gay. Not that there is anything wrong with that.

Rats, this is your warning that you are toeing a week ban.
 

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Well we are definitely the "same old ASFN" to go with our same old Cardinals. Optomists and pessimists taking their frustrations out on each other.

Sad.
 
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