The Absurdity Continues...

[Duckjake]

Rosetta STONED editions are not yet available.

I knew that. It is why I didn't include you in the original post.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

My take on Whiz's status (if anyone cares) is that of course we shouldn't fire him.

I appreciate everything he's done for the franchise. Let's not forget he pulled right string with Warner vs. Leinart.

But we haven't just gone from division champs to mediocre, or to bad.

We've gone from NFC conference champions to laughing stock. To same ole sorry @ss Cardinals. We are an embarrassment. We're debating if this is the worse team in AZ cardinals history.

Whose responsible for that?

If Whiz gets the lion share of the credit for the superbowl appearance, does he not also not receive the majority of the blame for the unmitigated disaster that were watching now?

And, what makes his strategy more perplexing and, to a certain degree, infuriating, is the way he's handled the QB situation.

To say that the Dennis Green was "a year away" is laughable (sorry Rats). I heard that same crap after Stoops won the natty with a bunch of John Blake's players.

Whiz is responsible for leading this franchise, in the modern era, to places that we had, as cardinal fans, had only secretly dreamed about. We wouldn't have even dared tell each other that we thought a cardinals squad was superbowl worthy out of fear of being ridiculed (and possibly beaten).

j/k about being beaten, but up until this year's training camp, whiz had appeared to have changed the very culture of this organization.

But now...

Now we are on a runaway train to 3-13, fresh off a spankings, full on spankings I say, administered in our house, by a horrible seahawks team, the hated 49ers, and a rebuilding rams squad.

Is that ok Shane? Mulli?

Is that cool? You guys okay with the status quo at this point?

I'm not. And to me, it appears that a big part of our problem are the decisions and leadership emanating from the HC position (I could be wrong).

I'm not saying the situation isn't salvageable. I'm sure that it is. But I want to see a significant improvement in this team next year, not quantified by wins, but by at least being competitive in our games, and by logical player personnel decisions which will give us the best chance to win.

If I don't see those things, and frankly, I'm not feeling very confident that I will, then yes I will call for Whiz's firing.

This season was a Mulligan. Next year, if it becomes apparent that the team has not made substantial progress, then we need chalk up 2008 and 2009 to warner/Haley/divine intervention, and to try to identify Whiz's replacement.

 

[Rats]

My take on Whiz's status (if anyone cares) is that of course we shouldn't fire him.

I appreciate everything he's done for the franchise. Let's not forget he pulled right string with Warner vs. Leinart.

But we haven't just gone from division champs to mediocre, or to bad.

We've gone from NFC conference champions to laughing stock. To same ole sorry @ss Cardinals. We are an embarrassment. We're debating if this is the worse team in AZ cardinals history.

Whose responsible for that?

If Whiz gets the lion share of the credit for the superbowl appearance, does he not also not receive the majority of the blame for the unmitigated disaster that were watching now?

And, what makes his strategy more perplexing and, to a certain degree, infuriating, is the way he's handled the QB situation.

To say that the Dennis Green was "a year away" is laughable (sorry Rats). I heard that same crap after Stoops won the natty with a bunch of John Blake's players.

Whiz is responsible for leading this franchise, in the modern era, to places that we had, as cardinal fans, had only secretly dreamed about. We wouldn't have even dared tell each other that we thought a cardinals squad was superbowl worthy out of fear of being ridiculed (and possibly beaten).

j/k about being beaten, but up until this year's training camp, whiz had appeared to have changed the very culture of this organization.

But now...

Now we are on a runaway train to 3-13, fresh off a spankings, full on spankings I say, administered in our house, by a horrible seahawks team, the hated 49ers, and a rebuilding rams squad.

Is that ok Shane? Mulli?

Is that cool? You guys okay with the status quo at this point?

I'm not. And to me, it appears that a big part of our problem are the decisions and leadership emanating from the HC position (I could be wrong).

I'm not saying the situation isn't salvageable. I'm sure that it is. But I want to see a significant improvement in this team next year, not quantified by wins, but by at least being competitive in our games, and by logical player personnel decisions which will give us the best chance to win.

If I don't see those things, and frankly, I'm not feeling very confident that I will, then yes I will call for Whiz's firing.

This season was a Mulligan. Next year, if it becomes apparent that the team has not made substantial progress, then we need chalk up 2008 and 2009 to warner/Haley/divine intervention, and to try to identify Whiz's replacement.

I like how you ask straight out if it is ok with the Whizzers that we have the status quo and the beatdowns. Shane has answered that a few times that he is perfectly fine with what was going on even saying we would be fine with DA early on because he had faith in whiz and we would still win the division. What the hell kind of fan says this. Instead it ended up just as I said it would. Many have said to me that I called it right in many ways. All except the 7 or 8 that jump on us Whis bashers at every written sentence criticing our paragraphs or our punctuation or our grammer,or spelling even telling me to **** and come back next year in this thread today. I SAY GROW UP JACKWAGONS. It is a message board. You dont own or run it or control its content.

Dennis Green most certainly could have went 8-8 in his last season with the schedule they had and a more seasoned team with Leinart or Warner another year in his offense. That would be reasonable. Not Laughable as u say. That would have got him extended and we would have continued to extend our depth and talent which has languished ever since Whiz arrived. I disagree with you.
Contrary to what others have said I have not except in the heat of a Sunday or Monday loss said I would fire Whiz right now. I have said that if 11 straight losses happens it would open up that the team quit and he needed to be replaced. I have said all along the Bidwills will not eat his extension. He has to clean house on his assistants and get solid OC and DC's in here.

He simply plays to many mind games with his squad and it is starting to wear thin as is evident with there play on the field. They have no confidence in there leader and only the most ardent Whiz supporter would dispute this. He will have the opportunity to fix the mess he created. If he does not then next year this time he needs to hit the bricks. Graves must be sent packing as soon as the season is over. He can not be in charge of this draft. We must get a real GM. Bring back DG. No one disputes he put talent on this team only that he couldn't coach it. I disagree but we need someone like that to identify and rebuild this roster. He could keep Fitz here. There are very few guys like Fitz in todays game and if he is allowed to leave because we can't find enough offense to make him want to stay then that will be a very sad day indeed. Oh, as a fan who pays money for this team....there are no Mulligans...they put a crap product on the field and I will say so. This season has to be the worse't I have seen. No Mulligans for these guys they need to own this mess and fix it. Period IMO.

 

[Mulli]

The Absurdity Continues...

 

[Duckjake]

The Absurdity Continues...

.........Sunday afternoon in Glendale.

 

[Mulli]

.........Sunday afternoon in Glendale.

I think the Bears vs. the Patriots is on, here in Chicago at the same time. How do I watch one of the game without finding out what is happening in the other?

 

[Rats]

The Absurdity Continues...

Nice change of direction....the apology you had attached and erased had more depth. Why does this smily have your name on it? Guess you earned it some how.

 

[Mulli]

Nice change of direction....the apology you had attached and erased had more depth. Why does this smily have your name on it? Guess you earned it some how.

So I did hurt your feelings?

Now that is absurd.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Nice change of direction....the apology you had attached and erased had more depth. Why does this smily have your name on it? Guess you earned it some how.

Because he has a bizarre infatuation with the head coach of an NFL team, and has a life goal of trashing him on a message board all day every day? Oh wait...that's not Mulli...

 

[Duckjake]

I think the Bears vs. the Patriots is on, here in Chicago at the same time. How do I watch one of the game without finding out what is happening in the other?

Unusual but all the good matchups are Sunday afternoon this week.

 

[Mulli]

Is that ok Shane? Mulli?

Is that cool? You guys okay with the status quo at this point?

What makes you ask that question?

What part of "Shame on you Cardinals" is unclear?

Is the avatar picture ambiguous?

 

[Rats]

So I did hurt your feelings?

Now that is absurd.

Not in the least...none of this means anything...insignificant really.

 

[Mulli]

Not in the least...none of this means anything...insignificant really.

Then, there was no apology.

It's all good.

 

[Rats]

Because he has a bizarre infatuation with the head coach of an NFL team, and has a life goal of trashing him on a message board all day every day? Oh wait...that's not Mulli...

Oh please, all day everyday??? Many weeks I do not even post about any of this. I just get tired of reading the defenders of the realm constantly jocking this pathetic head coach....most of you need to find a better use for your time. My post count is rather low for "all day everyday". Mostly your not worth my time.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Oh please, all day everyday???

Exaggeration for effect. In any event, it's an absurd amount.

Many weeks I do not even post about any of this.

Ha, maybe outside of the last month, that's true.

I just get tired of reading the defenders of the realm constantly jocking this pathetic head coach....

Unfortunately, you don't seem to have the capacity to understand what we're saying, although it's been explained to you ad nauseum. One more time. Listen carefully, and re-read several times to make sure that you grasp this:

A great man once said:

"show me an "in Whiz we trust" post in the last 5 weeks on this board. He is being criticized and openly by most of us for many things. Just not to the point where about 5 of you(whom I could all name) pull every little thing out and blow it out of complete proportion and just spew the "he should be fired line"

most of you need to find a better use for your time.

Sad but true. My capacity to refute the same nonsense from the obtuse crowd is running low. Some people just don't listen.
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[Rats]

Exaggeration for effect. In any event, it's an absurd amount.



Ha, maybe outside of the last month, that's true.



Unfortunately, you don't seem to have the capacity to understand what we're saying, although it's been explained to you ad nauseum. One more time. Listen carefully, and re-read several times to make sure that you grasp this:

A great man once said:

"show me an "in Whiz we trust" post in the last 5 weeks on this board. He is being criticized and openly by most of us for many things. Just not to the point where about 5 of you(whom I could all name) pull every little thing out and blow it out of complete proportion and just spew the "he should be fired line"



Sad but true. My capacity to refute the same nonsense from the obtuse crowd is running low. Some people just don't listen.

[/QUOTE]
He is not so great....and that was an exaggeration on your part....the last 2 weeks I had not even posted about any of this outside of on game day to vent. I do not usually engage this drivel and rarely start a thread about it. I just respond. I don't believe any of the Whiz guys have got it right. I have been consistant in that and right about his talent eval, his play calling, his staff and personel hires. He is not a good headcoach IMO. This is not nonsense and more and more are agreeing with it everyday which you admit in your post above. Guess you "and 5 others" are the ones haveing trouble handling the truth.

 

[Cheesebeef]

He is not so great....and that was an exaggeration on your part....the last 2 weeks I had not even posted about any of this outside of on game day to vent. I do not usually engage this drivel and rarely start a thread about it. I just respond. I don't believe any of the Whiz guys have got it right. I have been consistant in that and right about his talent eval, his play calling, his staff and personel hires. He is not a good headcoach IMO. This is not nonsense and more and more are agreeing with it everyday which you admit in your post above. Guess you "and 5 others" are the ones haveing trouble handling the truth.

i have to believe that you are somewhat mentally ********. i mean, your responses almost never makes sense, nor ever address what the poster has previously written.

 

[conraddobler]

I'm not going to defend Whiz after the Matt fiasco, that was so bizzarely handled and the resulting "fix" for it turned out to smell like so much ass that he lost me on that one.

Before that I was solidly a supporter of his, but maybe a lot of that was misplaced.

This year is a disaster, meltdown, turd on the field.

No one is really injured to speak of, certainly not more than average injuries and yet we stink bad.

The players are making the statement about him louder than we can, their play pretty much says it all.

 

[Cards Czar]

Rosetta STONED editions are not yet available.

I got to use the pre addition, and let me say WOW dude, here's to Rosetta Stone. Now an offical Stoner!

 

[Rats]

i have to believe that you are somewhat mentally ********. i mean, your responses almost never makes sense, nor ever address what the poster has previously written.

Another pile on by the mousey little groupthink leader. Good Job

 

[Mulli]

Another pile on by the mousey little groupthink leader. Good Job

 

[desertdawg]

I got to use the pre addition, and let me say WOW dude, here's to Rosetta Stone. Now an offical Stoner!

Dude, Rosetta got it going on.

 

[Rats]

The players are making the statement about him louder than we can, their play pretty much says it all.

They have quit on him and us. You have called it.

 

[Shane]

They have quit on him and us. You have called it.

Dont buy it. There was good effort across the board in that Ram game just last week. The QB play killed it nothing more or less.

 

[desertdawg]

The QB play killed it nothing more or less.

There is our season's description stated perfectly.