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The Ayton Plan
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According to the CBA the Suns have to classify bonuses as either "Likely" or "Unlikely". Likely bonuses are included in this year's cap. "Unlikely" bonuses met count towards next years cap. I get they concerned about the cap situation. The Suns should be able to simply decide which years to take the hit for those things they think Ayton will hit this year and next if that is a concern. So, that tells me this is all about guaranteed money.
Feels like you're onto something here...
Suns' Williams on Ayton contract report: 'That's not how we do business'
It isn't every day you see a report come along on some internal happenings with the Suns like a report on Deandre Ayton's contract negotiations.
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Which of these other guys who have got the max extension have played in an NBA Final aside from Ayton?
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Sarver's wife's back rubs aren't that good.
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This stuff would have made me nuts ten years ago. For some reason, it’s not. Even though I think what’s going on is stupid.
Weird.
Weird.
Not by midseason. For the 2023-24 season.
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My bad, but in my defense you're not usually optimistic enough to suggest that Jalen would still be in the NBA in 2023.
Just like Chriss and Bender before him, it appears that Jalen Smith will be gifted a roster spot and playing time by default, whether or not he deserves them, since they aren't bothering to bring in anyone capable at the position.
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That's not at all uncommon. The flaw isn't giving game time to young players (even pretty raw players), it's drafting as poorly as we did during the McD days. Smith looks like a miss by JJ but we'll see. I don't share your fear that we will play him regular minutes to our detriment.
It would have bugged the hell out of me when we were struggling to become relevant again. Now that we are? It's more just annoying and disappointing to hear. I am confident it gets worked out.
Both are flaws. A winning culture requires accountability. That, in turn, requires that playing time be earned.
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It looks like PHX wants to make sure Ayton is progressing and doesn't regress this season before offering a max.
Unless Ayton takes less, he will sign a max extension with PHX at some point before next season.
Unless Ayton takes less, he will sign a max extension with PHX at some point before next season.
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I used to make this same point regularly but again, the league has changed. Since the advent of the one and done, the number of younger players entering the league has skyrocketed.
Every former player and former coach I've listened to on this subject says that nothing is more important for player development than actual game minutes (early in their development process). They still have to earn it in practice but the level of "earning it" is different than it used to be.
Don't get me wrong, what we did with Bender and Chriss was ill-advised IMO except when we were intentionally trying to lose. Neither player "deserved" as much time as they got.
Or he will ask out, just like Joe Johnson did under the exact same circumstances.
That's what the G League is for...unless you are prepared to tank the season for the sake of developing your young, raw players.
I now understand quite well James Jones's preference for more seasoned players with the Suns' draft picks. I just think he had it backwards. He needed to take a swing at higher upside, younger, rawer players, when the Suns were still bad, needed a star, and could afford the growing pains of developing them on the fly. Once they became good, and given that they are championship contenders, NOW is when the likes of Cam Johnson and Ty Jerome should be getting targeted to round out the roster.
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Some similarities yes but not the exact same circumstances. Joe wanted to be closer to home, Ayton is close to home. And for Joe, being the main man was more important than anything else (apparently).
That was his official statement, but behind the scenes it was no secret he felt slighted and disrespected by Sarver, and that right there ended any hope of the Suns keeping him.
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He can do that if money if taking less is fine by him. No team except PHX can give him the most money on an extension. Hell, if Ayton really wants money he can get a super max like Doncic if he ends up on All NBA Team which is what he should be shooting for this year.
Minus the Super Max point, the same was true with Joe Johnson. It is why they worked out (or rather got worked in) a sign-and-trade.
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I don't think so. It's not my strong suit but I'm pretty sure the Super Max is only part of the extra protection afforded teams when they try to entice rookie contract players to re-sign.
The Suns could offer Joe Johnson more than any other team. It is why they worked out a sign-and-trade with Atlanta - So Joe Johnson could get the bigger contract the Suns could offer him while going to Atlanta, where to sign outright he would have had to take less.
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And that is no longer the case. The extra benefits of re-signing your own off of a rookie contract are not tradable.
