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Pat Tillman had a bunch of tackles, and that didn't make him a good player. It just meant that he had a terrible defense in front of him. Of course, one reason that Bucannon had more INTs than Dix and Pryor is that Bucannon was a senior and the other two were underclassmen.

Did Tillman lead his conference? And Pat never approached the combine results of Bucannon...
As for Dix & Pryor - fair point... so look at their junior seasons. Did Dix & Pryor put up the numbers that Bucannon did when he was a junior? I quickly checked Dix and I'm pretty sure wasn't even close!
 

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Did Tillman lead his conference? And Pat never approached the combine results of Bucannon...
As for Dix & Pryor - fair point... so look at their junior seasons. Did Dix & Pryor put up the numbers that Bucannon did when he was a junior? I quickly checked Dix and I'm pretty sure wasn't even close!

I'm pretty sure that neither Pryor nor Dix had dumpster fires of defenses playing in front of them. When you're a safety, you have a lot fewer opportunities to make plays if you have guys at cornerback and linebacker who are capable of doing anything.

I'm fine with the pick, and Bucannon plays a different position than Pryor or Dix, so I don't really care. But saying that he was the top-rated player at his position is a nonsense argument. We could still have the top-rated pure guard, or the top-rated punter, or whatever. Doesn't make the pick a great value. I think that everyone here would have taken the second-highest rated OLB over Bucannon.
 

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I'm pretty sure that neither Pryor nor Dix had dumpster fires of defenses playing in front of them. When you're a safety, you have a lot fewer opportunities to make plays if you have guys at cornerback and linebacker who are capable of doing anything.

Couldn't you argue that if he had more talent/more playmakers around him, his numbers would be less?
The fact that he was able to put up these numbers with virtually no assistance from others is to me, all the more impressive...
 
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Jean-Baptiste is not on my desired list. He's built like a safety, but he plays too soft. He'd work in some systems, but I don't think he's a fit for the Cards.
 

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I don't think it matters to SK that much, who the highest rated players are, unless they are his highest rated players. I have to assume that we had the players rated? And that would be why the Cards took him.

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