The future of the Phoenix Suns

[Phrazbit]

Just look at the current Suns. Playing their best basketball in years with twin towers. One in the twilight of his career and one still inexperienced. And it took the Suns almost a half century to experience it.

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I don't know how to respond to this other than to question your sanity.

Are you basing this entirely off of 3 quarters of one game? Because, outside of that, the Suns are actually playing some of the worst basketball we've seen in the history of the franchise.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Your "probably's" about the Suns history missed my point. An obsession with a 212 lb. Center who played for the Suns coach in college, which laid the foundation with their obsession for small ball. Right through this decade with three small Guards on the court, all clamoring to be Number 1.

There is a big gap between a solid role playing Center and a lightweight with the skinniest arms on the court playing 18 feet from the basket. That was the decade of Alvan Adams.

I felt for all of the Suns Power Forwards during that time whose games were diminished having to cover Center. Weakness at both power positions.

That is a guarantee of a team's foundation of no championships. One legitimate Finals appearance in close to half a century. Because of one Cinderella appearance with a skinny Center, which the league caught up with by the following season.

There is a huge gap between Lou Alcindor and Alvan Adams. The most reasonable expectation is far greater than either/or.

Just look at the current Suns. Playing their best basketball in years with twin towers.

Playing their best basketball in years? They're 3-5 since starting together and giving up an average of an 111 ppg, while losing by an average margin of 18 ppg. Sorry dude... that STILL sucks and the defense is HORRIFIC.

But what would you know? You say you don't watch the Suns anymore, so the idea that this is the best basketball in years is a laugh.. considering they won 48 games two years ago. And before you go into some rant about small ball, whatever you want to say, THAT SADLY was the best basketball they played in years. And those are facts.

One in the twilight of his career and one still inexperienced. And it took the Suns almost a half century to experience it. Not because they planned it, but due to injuries.

So if you want to predict what I am probably feeling, it would be, "Finally!" As well as no more 2- or 3-"Point" Guard lineups. There is joy in Suns-ville.

again, you're happy because there's actually 2 big guys on the court. Meanwhile, the team still sucks with them there. Yippee.

 

[Ronin]

Our defense is pretty bad....scary bad with the twin towers.lulz

 

[Phrazbit]

Our defense is pretty bad....scary bad with the twin towers.lulz

They can't rotate. We get slaughtered by movement and in transition because they're too slow, especially moving side to side. The rebounding numbers are nice, but we're getting massacred everywhere else.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

They can't rotate. We get slaughtered by movement and in transition because they're too slow, especially moving side to side. The rebounding numbers are nice, but we're getting massacred everywhere else.

Yes, the league has changed substantially. Movement and spacing is at a premium. Unless the twin towers have an unusual amount of dexterity they'll typically be at a disadvantage against modern lineups.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Yes, the league has changed substantially. Movement and spacing is at a premium. Unless the twin towers have an unusual amount of dexterity they'll typically be at a disadvantage against modern lineups.

BC wouldn't know that considering he's admitted he doesn't watch NBA basketball anymore... but yet still thinks he knows what's best to win in this league.

 

[Phrazbit]

I don't know, we did just eek out a win vs the mighty Timberwolves. I feel like this might be the greatest Suns team of all time.

 

[BC867]

BC wouldn't know that considering he's admitted he doesn't watch NBA basketball anymore... but yet still thinks he knows what's best to win in this league.

You can quit repeating that every other post. There was a short time when the Suns were so frustrating to watch, I didn't make it a point to watch the games.

If you've seem my in-game posts since then, you'd know that I appreciate seeing the Suns look better on the court.

There is not one real Point Guard on the team, unless you want to burn out Booker as our best "1" and best "2" at the same time. Our performance has definitely improved, but our record is going to stink until we have a quality Point and backup.

I don't see how any Suns fan can reference our record during a tanking season.

 

[sunsfan88]

There is not one real Point Guard on the team, unless you want to burn out Booker as our best "1" and best "2" at the same time. Our performance has definitely improved, but our record is going to stink until we have a quality Point and backup.

I don't see how any Suns fan can reference our record during a tanking season.

There was actually an article published today about the Suns 3 "scoring point guards"

https://twitter.com/paulcoro/status/709799865916592129

Sounds like Watson's including Booker as a "scoring point guard".

 

[BC867]

There was actually an article published today about the Suns 3 "scoring point guards"

https://twitter.com/paulcoro/status/709799865916592129

Sounds like Watson's including Booker as a "scoring point guard".

Yes, I saw that. The difference is that Booker is 6'6" and a smooth shooter and facilitator vs. the three tweener Guards under Hornacek who were all the smallest players on the court, not consistent outside shooters and mediocre facilitators.

Of course, I still don't like having two out of three who fit the "non" description. One of the tweeners not in the rotation but off the bench for instant offense is as far as I'd go.

Could it be that Watson, who is auditioning for a full-time job, is playing politics and telling Sarver and McDonough what they want to hear? It is a strong possibility. 'Still another example of them hiring another Head Coach whom they won't let do his job.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Yes, I saw that. The difference is that Booker is 6'6" and a smooth shooter and facilitator vs. the three tweener Guards under Hornacek who were all the smallest players on the court, not consistent outside shooters and mediocre facilitators.

Of course, I still don't like having two out of three who fit the "non" description. One of the tweeners not in the rotation but off the bench for instant offense is as far as I'd go.

Could it be that Watson, who is auditioning for a full-time job, is playing politics and telling Sarver and McDonough what they want to hear? It is a strong possibility. 'Still another example of them hiring another Head Coach whom they won't let do his job.

No. He is just looking a at the players in front of him, and if you read the article he is telling Bledsoe and Knight that they are going to have to give up the ball to Booker. If they are going to gripe about it they might as well do it now. Also, Archie is clearly out of the picture.

 

[Mainstreet]

Tyson Chandler reportedly does not want to be part of a rebuilding project. Might he be part of a trade this summer?

"For me, especially where I am in my career, I want to win," Chandler said Friday. "I want to win now. I'm not in any kind of rebuilding stage. So if that's the case, it ain't where I'm supposed to be."

http://basketball.realgm.com/wireta...nterested-In-Being-Part-Of-Rebuilding-Project

 

[AzStevenCal]

Tyson Chandler reportedly does not want to be part of a rebuilding project. Might he be part of a trade this summer?



http://basketball.realgm.com/wireta...nterested-In-Being-Part-Of-Rebuilding-Project

This seems out of character for Tyson. I suspect that was a response to a specific question about how he'd feel if the team was expecting the rebuilding process to last a few years or a similar question. But that might be even more concerning though as it could indicate he's expecting trades and signings designed to make us a contender immediately. I hope not as I'd prefer a more stable approach to contention.

 

[SirStefan32]

This seems out of character for Tyson. I suspect that was a response to a specific question about how he'd feel if the team was expecting the rebuilding process to last a few years or a similar question. But that might be even more concerning though as it could indicate he's expecting trades and signings designed to make us a contender immediately. I hope not as I'd prefer a more stable approach to contention.

Yeah, that's how I read that too. There is no context to the quote, so it's hard to know.

 

[Cheesebeef]

You can quit repeating that every other post.

this is HILARIOUS coming from the guy who literally keeps repeating himself in almost every post.

There was a short time when the Suns were so frustrating to watch, I didn't make it a point to watch the games.

You don't watch the rest of the LEAGUE either, so, again, for you to say what "works" in the NBA has no merit because you don't watch the NBA.

If you've seem my in-game posts since then, you'd know that I appreciate seeing the Suns look better on the court.

Except they don't look better. Their D is atrocious and so is their record. You just like the APPEARANCE of two big men on the court, but it ain't adding up to wins or better D.

There is not one real Point Guard on the team, unless you want to burn out Booker as our best "1" and best "2" at the same time. Our performance has definitely improved, but our record is going to stink until we have a quality Point and backup.

Yeah, no. No measure has been better.

I don't see how any Suns fan can reference our record during a tanking season.

and I don't see how any Suns fan can say this is the best basketball in years when that's neither true on the scoreboard or in our defense/offensive rankings. There's LITERALLY nothing to base your opinion on except YOU SAY SO, and considering how little basketball you watch, your say means next to nothing, IMO.

 

[BC867]

...considering how little basketball you watch, your say means next to nothing, IMO.

If that is your reaction, fine. The difference between us is that I am a fan, not a fanatic. I am not glued to a TV. That seems to bother you, considering your personal attacks.

When you own the board, perhaps you can determine who is eligible to post. Until then, why don't you try to post without getting personal? I haven't once attacked you. And if you think putting me on the defensive will help the Suns, yeah, right.

 

[JCSunsfan]

There was actually an article published today about the Suns 3 "scoring point guards"

https://twitter.com/paulcoro/status/709799865916592129

Sounds like Watson's including Booker as a "scoring point guard".

I think he really means "scoring guard who can play point".

 

[JCSunsfan]

This seems out of character for Tyson. I suspect that was a response to a specific question about how he'd feel if the team was expecting the rebuilding process to last a few years or a similar question. But that might be even more concerning though as it could indicate he's expecting trades and signings designed to make us a contender immediately. I hope not as I'd prefer a more stable approach to contention.

I was thinking this. It might be that the players think of themselves as much farther along in this process than most casual fans do. They have a good core to work with plus they have 4 picks in the firs 32 AND plenty of free agent cash if it is necessary.

 

[Hoop Head]

Here is video with the quote from Chandler. The way he said it appears like it was in fact a response to a specific question plus he's smiling and kind of chuckling while answering it. He doesn't seem angry or anything. He's frustrated with the outcome of the season, as I'm sure many players are, but I don't think it's nearly as bad as it appears.

http://www.azcentral.com/videos/sports/nba/suns/2016/03/19/82007946/

 

[Mainstreet]

Here is video with the quote from Chandler. The way he said it appears like it was in fact a response to a specific question plus he's smiling and kind of chuckling while answering it. He doesn't seem angry or anything. He's frustrated with the outcome of the season, as I'm sure many players are, but I don't think it's nearly as bad as it appears.

http://www.azcentral.com/videos/sports/nba/suns/2016/03/19/82007946/

The video is a good find. I watched it multiple times. My interpretation is Chandler was serious during the interview although I would like to hear the question to get context. IMO, his smile was a nervous or disarming smile.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Here is video with the quote from Chandler. The way he said it appears like it was in fact a response to a specific question plus he's smiling and kind of chuckling while answering it. He doesn't seem angry or anything. He's frustrated with the outcome of the season, as I'm sure many players are, but I don't think it's nearly as bad as it appears.

http://www.azcentral.com/videos/sports/nba/suns/2016/03/19/82007946/

I don't think there's a chuckle there. I think that's a guy trying to be as truthful while being as diplomatic as possible. The idea that there's a different context to what is a pretty point blank statement seems like rationalization. The guy doesn't want to be part of rebuilding. That's what we are.

 

[AzStevenCal]

I don't think there's a chuckle there. I think that's a guy trying to be as truthful while being as diplomatic as possible. The idea that there's a different context to what is a pretty point blank statement seems like rationalization. The guy doesn't want to be part of rebuilding. That's what we are.

Of course he doesn't. It's the "that's what we are" that he might not be buying into.

I think we could easily be a playoff team next season with just a little luck and a decent free agent or two. But I think it's the wrong move. Our ceiling would likely be first round sacrifice and we'd probably have to give away some future assets (the Miami picks) just to get there.

We're nowhere close to playing with the big boys even if things go our way this summer so make smart picks, smart FA investments and smart trades and take it slowly. Chandler might be assuming we're going all out for that playoff spot with our offseason moves. So the question might have been a leading one about how he feels about being on a team that is looking at a long rebuild.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Of course he doesn't. It's the "that's what we are" that he might not be buying into.

I think we could easily be a playoff team next season with just a little luck and a decent free agent or two. But I think it's the wrong move. Our ceiling would likely be first round sacrifice and we'd probably have to give away some future assets (the Miami picks) just to get there.

We're nowhere close to playing with the big boys even if things go our way this summer so make smart picks, smart FA investments and smart trades and take it slowly. Chandler might be assuming we're going all out for that playoff spot with our offseason moves. So the question might have been a leading one about how he feels about being on a team that is looking at a long rebuild.

If we pull this move again and sign a Hedo/Hakim/Chillz again...

 

[AzStevenCal]

If we pull this move again and sign a Hedo/Hakim/Chillz again...

Scary thought. But with a 6 year playoff drought working, an impatient owner might send us in that direction. I really hope that's not the case. All of us are tired tired of missing the playoffs. But I'd rather sit out another year or even two if that's what it takes to build a team that at least has the potential of becoming a championship contender.

 

[slinslin]

That quote from Chandler is taken out of context and twisted..