the Norm Chow rumors

[ajcardfan]

I'm going on record now as saying Norm Chow will be worst choice for HC. I may be wrong but hasn't he only been a NFL OC for 2 years? And his offenses haven't lit the world on fire so far.

If we hire Chow or Sherman I will feel pretty discouraged. I'll admit I know nothing about Caldwell. Rivera is the only one who struck my fancy.

 

[az1965]

Even bringing up Clancy as a HC candidate option is a big joke!

He needs to first work and get better what is supposed to be his forte, i.e. DC.

 

[kerouac9]

Norm Chow wasn't good enough for the University of Arizona and Stanford jobs and now he's NFL head coach material? What a train wreck.

Yeah. If you're bringing up a guy that no one else wants, and he's one of your top 5 guys, you're probably not looking at the right place.

Norm Chow wasn't good enough for Arizona State. No one in this organization can be trusted to make a good decision here.

 

[Evil Ash]

Even bringing up Clancy as a HC candidate option is a big joke!

He needs to first work and get better what is supposed to be his forte, i.e. DC.

He didn't bring him up as a coach. Schefter (sp?) did

 

[Russ Smith]

Norm Chow wasn't good enough for the University of Arizona and Stanford jobs and now he's NFL head coach material? What a train wreck.

In fairness, in college recruiting is a huge part of the job, and a guy like Chow is thought to not be a guy willing to recruit, he just doesn't like to do that. NFL coaches don't have to.

Not that he's my first choice, just that I suspect he might be the leading candidate based on how things are going so far.

 

[Carpy]

Tell you what. How about you leave Norm Chow alone (us Titans need some stability to help VY's growth), but for the bargain price of a 2nd hand jock strap, we'll send Chief Red Hat your way a a Head Coach.

http://www.titansonline.com/team/coaches/staff.php?PRKey=3

 

[football karma]

Mortensen reported on the Colin Cowherd show that Chow is also a candidate for the Atlanta job

 

[D-Dogg]

Mortensen reported on the Colin Cowherd show that Chow is also a candidate for the Atlanta job

I hope he gets that job and we get Whisenhunt.

 

[abomb]

I just found out Norm Chow is Chinese. That's pretty awesome that there will be a Chinese head coach in the NFL.

 

[D-Dogg]

I just found out Norm Chow is Chinese. That's pretty awesome that there will be a Chinese head coach in the NFL.

Suprised you didn't know that, but then again you didn't follow USC very close. I remember hearing this story and thought it was insane:

His own experiences speak to the presence of racism within the college coaching ranks, which contributed, in part, to his departure from BYU. During a meeting between members of the athletic department and administrators, Chow witnessed firsthand the racism of those in power: "I'm sitting here, this guy's [a new white vice president at the university] standing three feet away from me talking about this, that, and the other. And he says, 'we're going to build this new facility and we got all the Chinamen lined up, ready to go.'" Rightly infuriated, Chow confronted his athletic director, who, in turn, took Chow's complaint to the vice president. The VP defended his own actions by telling the athletic director, "I didn't know Norm was Chinese." Chow left BYU soon after, forced to start over after thirty-two years at the school.

http://www.popmatters.com/sports/features/050303-normchow.shtml

 

[abomb]

Suprised you didn't know that, but then again you didn't follow USC very close. I remember hearing this story and thought it was insane:

That's a crazy story.

I also thought Derek Anderson and Charlie Frye were Black. Life imitating Simmons.

Reggie Cleveland All-Stars
Simmons also created the "Reggie Cleveland All-Stars", a list of sports figures whose names seem not to match their ethnicities. (The namesake is Reggie Cleveland, a former pitcher whose white background did not seem to match his "black-sounding" name.)

Simmons officially designated the following players as All-Stars:

Mack Brown
Reggie Cleveland
Lew Ford
Karim Garcia
Marcus Giles
Moonlight Graham (old-timers' edition)
Khalil Greene
Jackie Earle Haley
Enos Slaughter (old-timers' edition)
Darius Songaila
Jarrod Washburn
Howie Kendrick
Ty Wigginton

Many others have been nominated on various websites. He also noted that recently drafted Patrick O'Bryant is a "mortal lock" to be named to the All-Star team. Kendrick was added during a mailbag on Page2.

 

[kerouac9]

Tell you what. How about you leave Norm Chow alone (us Titans need some stability to help VY's growth), but for the bargain price of a 2nd hand jock strap, we'll send Chief Red Hat your way a a Head Coach.

http://www.titansonline.com/team/coaches/staff.php?PRKey=3

I wanted Jim Schwartz when we hired Denny Green. Heck, yeah, we'd take him. He's one of the most underrated coaches in the NFL.

 

[phillycard]

I'm scared of Chow because he has never been a HC. IFTHE CARDS GET THIS
WRONG WE RUIN THE REST OF THE CAREERS OF FITZ, Q, MATT, WILSON
and the others young talent we have. We have about a 5 year window to
succeed! We have above average talent THAT NEEDS TO BE COACHED. The
right or wrong scheme will make this team win or lose. In my opinion Graves
needs to be canned because he doesn't know talent like Denny. The safe bet
hire Wisenhunt from Pittsburgh: he's an above average play caller, who will
keep you off guard with creative formations and play calling; comes from
long time winning program who has connections to build a solid staff.

ABSOLUTELY BUCKY!!! This has got to be the right hire. i don't want to go so far as to say we have to bring in a retread or a name guy, but dammit, I'm too unsure about a Chow hire to be gung ho about it. To be honest, I'm not even focusing on the head coach right now. I'm really furious that the DG hire didn't work out, that I have little to zero faith that we will do this right.

 

[conraddobler]

ABSOLUTELY BUCKY!!! This has got to be the right hire. i don't want to go so far as to say we have to bring in a retread or a name guy, but dammit, I'm too unsure about a Chow hire to be gung ho about it. To be honest, I'm not even focusing on the head coach right now. I'm really furious that the DG hire didn't work out, that I have little to zero faith that we will do this right.

Man it would be tough not to like that guy as a hire.

Some think he'll end up in Atlanta but I'm not so sure, I would not go there especially after working for a franchise that had the first Mike Vick experiment with Kordell Stewart.

Mike Vick is one good reason not to take that job IMO.

 

[JeffGollin]

Jeff, I agree that CP has done fairly well at stopping the run and being innovative...but, the lapses in pass coverage are so glaring it makes one question CP's abilities in this capacity...and this has been a problem for three years, Jeff...not just this year...in fact, each year the coverage seems worse.

Valid point; however (and I realize it's a stretch for an excuse) I have to wonder whether the relationship that Solomon had with DG might have undercut Clancy's ability to influence what we did in the secondary.

To further expand, were our problems on pass defense due to poor scheming by Pendy or lack of technique on the part of our corners (a Solomon responsibility)?

 

[Russ Smith]

Man it would be tough not to like that guy as a hire.

Some think he'll end up in Atlanta but I'm not so sure, I would not go there especially after working for a franchise that had the first Mike Vick experiment with Kordell Stewart.

Mike Vick is one good reason not to take that job IMO.

That's why I don't think Chow would take that job. Chow didn't want VY, but he made it work and I'm sure could make Vick a better player. But I don't think Chow wants to have to do that stuff, I think he wants a drop back QB like Matt Leinart. I just can't see him having any interest at all in going to Atlanta and then basically being told Vick is the QB don't even think about suggesting we go with Schaub.

If I had my choice, Chow wouldn't be first but that's mainly because you have been hearing his name for so long and he never gets the job, so you just assume there must be a valid reason. Same thing was the case with Dungy and he's worked out pretty well.

Chow is a brilliant offensive coach, if you put in a good DC and a good GM you can probably win with Chow as HC. But I don't think Graves is that GM, and I'm not sure Pendergast is that DC.

 

[conraddobler]

Valid point; however (and I realize it's a stretch for an excuse) I have to wonder whether the relationship that Solomon had with DG might have undercut Clancy's ability to influence what we did in the secondary.

To further expand, were our problems on pass defense due to poor scheming by Pendy or lack of technique on the part of our corners (a Solomon responsibility)?

I'm glad you expressed it that way, honestly none of us know and CP could easily have been hostage to what DG wanted to do there.

 

[conraddobler]

That's why I don't think Chow would take that job. Chow didn't want VY, but he made it work and I'm sure could make Vick a better player. But I don't think Chow wants to have to do that stuff, I think he wants a drop back QB like Matt Leinart. I just can't see him having any interest at all in going to Atlanta and then basically being told Vick is the QB don't even think about suggesting we go with Schaub.

If I had my choice, Chow wouldn't be first but that's mainly because you have been hearing his name for so long and he never gets the job, so you just assume there must be a valid reason. Same thing was the case with Dungy and he's worked out pretty well.

Chow is a brilliant offensive coach, if you put in a good DC and a good GM you can probably win with Chow as HC. But I don't think Graves is that GM, and I'm not sure Pendergast is that DC.

I could see pairing Chow with someone like Jim Johnson of the Eagles and doing really well but again that's not possible, they are both assistants and there's no way to get one as the HC and the other also.

Thinking this through, I'd be ok with Jim Johnson and him keeping our current OC.

He's an older guy but all he does is coach up young kids.

Supposedly he was the runner up in the last search.

 

[lobo]

I could see pairing Chow with someone like Jim Johnson of the Eagles and doing really well but again that's not possible, they are both assistants and there's no way to get one as the HC and the other also.

Thinking this through, I'd be ok with Jim Johnson and him keeping our current OC.

He's an older guy but all he does is coach up young kids.

Supposedly he was the runner up in the last search.

johnson would be a SUPER choice...we would all love our defense if they played and executed the schemes that johnson runs with the iggles...watch what they do to manning over the weekend...the put the heat on every play....everyone has their favorites he's one of my top 3....if we could possbibly pull off a promotion..for chow and johnson...that is a great combo on paper!!! kruzeck is also showing he might be able to get the job done as well...

 

[conraddobler]

johnson would be a SUPER choice...we would all love our defense if they played and executed the schemes that johnson runs with the iggles...watch what they do to manning over the weekend...the put the heat on every play....everyone has their favorites he's one of my top 3....if we could possbibly pull off a promotion..for chow and johnson...that is a great combo on paper!!! kruzeck is also showing he might be able to get the job done as well...

If there is one guy that could come in, bring a CB coach and a couple other with him and use our current staff it'd be Jim Johnson.

He actually runs a simlar style to CP, very agressive, just in a more successful way

I don't think CP would have to go in that situation, simply learn and run his defense for him or help prepare and gameplan with Johnson setting the overall tone and scheme.

 

[BigRedArk]

If there is one guy that could come in, bring a CB coach and a couple other with him and use our current staff it'd be Jim Johnson.

He actually runs a simlar style to CP, very agressive, just in a more successful way

I don't think CP would have to go in that situation, simply learn and run his defense for him or help prepare and gameplan with Johnson setting the overall tone and scheme.

Will the B's even interview him though? Are their minds already made up and these interviews are just a mere formality? If we're lucky all the front runners will say no to all of the offers and Johnson gets it by default!!!!!! I can dream can't I?

 

[Russ Smith]

Will the B's even interview though? Are their minds already made up and these interviews are just a mere formality? If we're lucky all the front runners will say no to all of the offers and Johnson gets it by default!!!!!! I can dream can't I?

FWIW, Clayton says in his insider blog that Bidwill(sic he spelled it wrong over and over) knows Chow very well. That Chow used to regularly visit the Cards at training camp(no explanation given as to why) and that they have a very good relationship.

I knew there was some connection but didn't necessarily know what it was, apparently that's it.

 

[BigRedArk]

FWIW, Clayton says in his insider blog that Bidwill(sic he spelled it wrong over and over) knows Chow very well. That Chow used to regularly visit the Cards at training camp(no explanation given as to why) and that they have a very good relationship.

I knew there was some connection but didn't necessarily know what it was, apparently that's it.

Velly Eeeentaresting.

 

[Carpy]

I wanted Jim Schwartz when we hired Denny Green. Heck, yeah, we'd take him. He's one of the most underrated coaches in the NFL.

He's all yours. Here's how his defense ranked this year.

http://www.nfl.com/stats/teamsort/NFL/DEF-TOTAL/2006/regular?sort_col_1=4

 

[vinnymac]

this whole team hasn't been consistant. the defense will do a good job in the first half and blow it in the second. the cardinals defense has the reputation of giveing up big plays. plus how many times have you seen cardinals miss tackle after tackle. how many did the cardinals have the lead in the first half and then the cardinals go into the prevent to win defense. that is on the dc and the whole defensive coaching staff. CP hasn't made good half time adjustment or adjustment period during the game to stop opponents. it is great the cardinals caused a lot of turnovers, but when you are one of the worst team in scoring defense it doesn't matter. CP is not a very good dc. imo the qb coach is the only coach that should be retain. looney didn't do a very good job with that offensive line until the last few games. that is when players and coaches playing for there jobs.