The Official Soccer Transfers / Rumors thread

[Mulli]

Chim Chiminey Chim Chiminey Chim Chim Cheroo. Santi Cazorla is better than you.

 

[Chaplin]

Chim Chiminey Chim Chiminey Chim Chim Cheroo. Santi Cazorla is better than you.

Signing of the year in the Premiere League.

 

[Dr. Jones]

Tello becomes instantly expendable with Neymar coming in. Who knows, Pedro or Villa could be moved at some point as well. I like Villa, but won't be broken up if he goes. Pedro, though, is one of my favorites.

Cuenca will figure in the mix as well as soon as he's back from injury.

Tello is playing better than the others. And might have the brightest long-term future.

Villa would be a shame to lose with what he has been through and what he means to the Spanish national team. They will need him in Brazil to have any shot IMO.

Cuenca is too much like all of the midfielders they have. And they already have way to many distributors.

Pedro is fun to watch and he is my favorite winger at the moment.

I think Alexis should be the one to go.

Neymar, Messi, & Tello make the most sense. With Villa and Pedro on the outside looking in.

Iniesta, Xavi, Cesc, & either Sergio, or Mascherano should be the midfielders

Pique, Puyol, Alves, & Alba along the back. I don't think Abidal will be who he was, and Adriano seems like a perfect bench guy.

 

[Dr. Jones]

Signing of the year in the Premiere League.

Eden Hazard has been a revelation in the Chelsea midfield. I don't think Cazorla can touch that transaction.

 

[Mathew81]

Eden Hazard has been a revelation in the Chelsea midfield. I don't think Cazorla can touch that transaction.

Except Cazorla cost about a third of what Hazard did

 

[Dr. Jones]

Except Cazorla cost about a third of what Hazard did

Why does that matter? To me, he is living up to that price tag.

Of course..... We have a long road ahead. Let's revisit this after the 20th week or so.

 

[Chaplin]

Tello is playing better than the others. And might have the brightest long-term future.

Villa would be a shame to lose with what he has been through and what he means to the Spanish national team. They will need him in Brazil to have any shot IMO.

Cuenca is too much like all of the midfielders they have. And they already have way to many distributors.

Pedro is fun to watch and he is my favorite winger at the moment.

I think Alexis should be the one to go.

Neymar, Messi, & Tello make the most sense. With Villa and Pedro on the outside looking in.

Iniesta, Xavi, Cesc, & either Sergio, or Mascherano should be the midfielders

Pique, Puyol, Alves, & Alba along the back. I don't think Abidal will be who he was, and Adriano seems like a perfect bench guy.

Tello has a bright future, but come on now. The guy has one move and Cuenca was playing really well before he got injured. I like Tello's potential, but the best of those guys? No way.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Tello has a bright future, but come on now. The guy has one move and Cuenca was playing really well before he got injured. I like Tello's potential, but the best of those guys? No way.

 

[Dr. Jones]

Tello has a bright future, but come on now. The guy has one move and Cuenca was playing really well before he got injured. I like Tello's potential, but the best of those guys? No way.

I think I will stand by my statement. In the 4 early contests I have watched he seems to be making more of an impact than Alexis & Pedro. Especially that first goal versus Spartak. And nothing happened in the Granada game until he, pedro & xavi came in. With Villa and Messi's arguments last week he came in and made an instant impact. Personally, I haven't seen Cuenca make the same type of impact.

Do I think he is better than the Pedro, Alexis, or Villa at this point? No. Do I think he is playing better and is rated higher for Tito at this point? Yes

 

[slinslin]

Mario Goetze officially moves from Borussia Dortmund to Bayern Munich in the summer for 37M Euros.

 

[Chaplin]

Great move for Bayern, AWFUL move for the Bundesliga. Just terrible.

 

[slinslin]

If Bayern had not bought him then another top team would have, simple. Makes no difference for the Bundesliga really.

 

[Chaplin]

If Bayern had not bought him then another top team would have, simple. Makes no difference for the Bundesliga really.

Sounds like a Bayern fanboy. There will be NO competition for Bayern in league. NONE. It will become the worst league in Europe. A shame because German soccer is pretty nice to watch.

 

[slinslin]

And what exactly would have been the difference had Bayern let Gotze go to Barca or Real Madrid?

Bayern would have made Neymar the #1 priority on their shopping list then.

Situation would be the same , has nothing to with Bayern Munich. Dortmund is not a top top club and can't compete with the top 4-5 teams in Europe financially that is the bottom line. If Bayern did not make use of the release clause Gotze would go somewhere else still.

Blame Bayern all you want Gotze is born near Munich, grew up their until he was 6 and slept in Bayern sheets as a boy. Gotze wanted to play under Guardiola and WANTED to go to Munich.

 

[Dr. Jones]

I feel bad for him. Who sits? Mueller?

I am already feeling bad for X. Shaquiri. He barely gets the run he needs. Now who will get the run between all of those midfielders?

Also, Chap is right. Bayern might win their league before the middle of March next season. Can you win a league by 40 points?

 

[Chaplin]

And what exactly would have been the difference had Bayern let Gotze go to Barca or Real Madrid?

Bayern would have made Neymar the #1 priority on their shopping list then.

Situation would be the same , has nothing to with Bayern Munich. Dortmund is not a top top club and can't compete with the top 4-5 teams in Europe financially that is the bottom line. If Bayern did not make use of the release clause Gotze would go somewhere else still.

Blame Bayern all you want Gotze is born near Munich, grew up their until he was 6 and slept in Bayern sheets as a boy. Gotze wanted to play under Guardiola and WANTED to go to Munich.

Completely missing the point, but since you are a Bayern fanboy, that's not surprising.

I actually like Bayern, they are my chosen club in Germany, but this makes the games a lot less entertaining and the quality of the league will deteriorate. Why would any big name players go to German clubs if they know there is no chance they would be able to dethrone Bayern? Spanish teams are facing that same problem. If there was more parity in any of those leagues, they would easily compete for dollars with the EPL. But because there is more parity in England, they get the majority of the revenue around the world.

 

[Dr. Jones]

I really wasn't kidding. Bayern could win the Bundesliga by March 1st. That's how bad this leagues parity has become.

 

[slinslin]

But because there is more parity in England, they get the majority of the revenue around the world.

Jokes, check your facts before you post such bull**** really.

Bundesliga had more champions in the last 10 years than England, a wider variety of teams in the european cups too.

The reason England gets the majority of revenue around the world is because it is much easier to market a product worldwide that is already broadcasted in English as well as an entire media apperatus in English backing it.

The premier league can sell their local English broadcast almost one to one in all countries of the world, the Bundesliga can't.

The couple that with the fact that something such as PAYTV has yet to really breakthrough in Germany.

And last but not least English clubs taking MASSIVE loans and piling up massive debts in the 90s to buy the top players to be attractive enough to land such TV deals. The Bundesliga on the other hand has a very strict set of rules that prevents teams from making such debts. Most if not all of the PL teams would have been relegated to the third league doing that kind of business.

 

[Chaplin]

Jokes, check your facts before you post such bull**** really.

Bundesliga had more champions in the last 10 years than England, a wider variety of teams in the european cups too.

The reason England gets the majority of revenue around the world is because it is much easier to market a product worldwide that is already broadcasted in English as well as an entire media apperatus in English backing it.

The premier league can sell their local English broadcast almost one to one in all countries of the world, the Bundesliga can't.

The couple that with the fact that something such as PAYTV has yet to really breakthrough in Germany.

And last but not least English clubs taking MASSIVE loans and piling up massive debts in the 90s to buy the top players to be attractive enough to land such TV deals. The Bundesliga on the other hand has a very strict set of rules that prevents teams from making such debts. Most if not all of the PL teams would have been relegated to the third league doing that kind of business.

This means nothing except fueling your superiority complex. There is no parity in Germany to begin with and this signing will make it even worse. You have not provided one good reason why the Bundesliga will be worth watching next season. And quoting "strict rules" in Germany? That's rich--Bayern Munich obviously either flaunts those rules or ignores them entirely.

And we all know who posts bull**** on this forum. And it ain't me.

 

[slinslin]

This means nothing except fueling your superiority complex. There is no parity in Germany to begin with and this signing will make it even worse. You have not provided one good reason why the Bundesliga will be worth watching next season. And quoting "strict rules" in Germany? That's rich--Bayern Munich obviously either flaunts those rules or ignores them entirely.

And we all know who posts bull**** on this forum. And it ain't me.

You are absolutely freaking clueless concerning soccer that is the truth.

Bayern Munich has no debts and everyone who has even half an interest in soccer knows that the Bundesliga has much stricter licensing rules than the other leagues. For example the club must always hold the majority of the shares. An Abramovic is not possible in the Bundesliga.

Bayern Munich doesn't flaunt any rules, Bayern Munich didn't make debts in the 90s when the Italian and English clubs massively overspend. Bayern continually built an imperium and are now getting ahead of everyone because they have the 3rd highest turnover in all of soccer and no debts to pay off.

You are absolutely full of it and cynical to bring up the Premier League as an example for PARITY. The league that has been won by just 4 different teams in the last I don't know 20 years or so almost. The same league that features the same top 4 and top 7 basically EVERY SINGLE SEASON.

There are many reason to watch Bundesliga:
- most parity of all top leagues
- highest scoring average of all top leagues
- top quality (Bundesliga is about to overtake the Premier League in 5 year average UEFA standings and getting close to the Spanish League too)

 

[Chaplin]

You are absolutely freaking clueless concerning soccer that is the truth.

Bayern Munich has no debts and everyone who has even half an interest in soccer knows that the Bundesliga has much stricter licensing rules than the other leagues. For example the club must always hold the majority of the shares. An Abramovic is not possible in the Bundesliga.

Bayern Munich doesn't flaunt any rules, Bayern Munich didn't make debts in the 90s when the Italian and English clubs massively overspend. Bayern continually built an imperium and are now getting ahead of everyone because they have the 3rd highest turnover in all of soccer and no debts to pay off.

You are absolutely full of it and cynical to bring up the Premier League as an example for PARITY. The league that has been won by just 4 different teams in the last I don't know 20 years or so almost. The same league that features the same top 4 and top 7 basically EVERY SINGLE SEASON.

There are many reason to watch Bundesliga:
- most parity of all top leagues
- highest scoring average of all top leagues
- top quality (Bundesliga is about to overtake the Premier League in 5 year average UEFA standings and getting close to the Spanish League too)

True, they have a consistent top 7. Beats a consistent top 1 like what the Bundesliga is going to sport next season. Again, you aren't even coming close to addressing the lack of competition in the Bundesliga next season. Because you can't. Instead, you attack me for being "clueless about soccer". I'm not the one wearing Red, Yellow and Black colored glasses in virtually every discussion. You are hardly unbiased here. A German proclaiming the German league is the best? What a shock!

You have fun watching one-sided games next year. What a joke.

 

[Mulli]

I hear that one guy from Fiorentina is signing with Arsenal if they makes the Champions league.

 

[Chaplin]

Took them awhile, but Arsenal is playing some of its best soccer of the season. I'm cautiously optimistic that they will keep it up and get one of those Champions League spots.

 

[Mulli]

Took them awhile, but Arsenal is playing some of its best soccer of the season. I'm cautiously optimistic that they will keep it up and get one of those Champions League spots.

Right! And they beat the best team ever, Bayern.

 

[slinslin]

You are hardly unbiased here. A German proclaiming the German league is the best? What a shock!

You have fun watching one-sided games next year. What a joke.

Open your friggin eyes. Bayern 4 Barca 0, Dortmund 4 Real 1.

True, they have a consistent top 7. Beats a consistent top 1 like what the Bundesliga is going to sport next season.

All I hear is whine, Bundesliga had more championship teams in the last 20 years than any other top league.

1992–93 Manchester United (8)
1993–94 Manchester United (9)
1994–95 Blackburn Rovers (3)
1995–96 Manchester United (10)
1996–97 Manchester United (11)
1997–98 Arsenal (11)
1998–99 Manchester United[7] (12)
1999–2000 Manchester United (13)
2000–01 Manchester United (14)
2001–02 Arsenal (12)
2002–03 Manchester United (15)
2003–04 Arsenal[1] (13)
2004–05 Chelsea[4] (2)
2005–06 Chelsea (3)
2006–07 Manchester United (16)
2007–08 Manchester United (17)
2008–09 Manchester United[4] (18)
2009–10 Chelsea (4)
2010–11 Manchester United (19)
2011–12 Manchester City (3)
2012–13 Manchester United (20)

Manchester United won 12 of the last 20 championships. Manchester, Arsenal and Chelsea won 18 of the last 20.

Sir, that is parity. Would have been even worse without the plastic clubs.

1992–93 Werder Bremen
1993–94 Bayern Munich
1994–95 Borussia Dortmund
1995–96 Borussia Dortmund
1996–97 Bayern Munich
1997–98 1. FC Kaiserslautern
1998–99 Bayern Munich
1999–2000 Bayern Munich
2000–01 Bayern Munich
2001–02 Borussia Dortmund
2002–03 Bayern Munich
2003–04 Werder Bremen
2004–05 Bayern Munich
2005–06 Bayern Munich
2006–07 VfB Stuttgart
2007–08 Bayern Munich
2008–09 VfL Wolfsburg
2009–10 Bayern Munich
2010–11 Borussia Dortmund
2011–12 Borussia Dortmund
2012-13 Bayern Munich

Oh btw Lewandowski to Bayern Munich is basically a done deal as well, has been whispered for months that they already agreed.