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Sounds like arena soccer team to me. The AC/DC song Thunderstruck is Majerle's signature song. Now that he'll be out there as a coach, I hope they play it during the game to pump up the defense the crowd.
I was wondering if the name means that Thunder Dan will eventually be their Head Coach.

Maybe they're honoring their Seattle heritage. 'Always rains.
 

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I was wondering if the name means that Thunder Dan will eventually be their Head Coach.

Maybe they're honoring their Seattle heritage. 'Always rains.

Or they are thinking of sonic booms.
 

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According to: http://myespn.go.com/nba/truehoop

they have applied for trademarks for the following names:

Oklahoma City Thunder
Oklahoma City Marshalls
Oklahoma City Energy
Oklahoma City Wind
Oklahoma City Barons
Oklahoma City Bison

Thunder, Energy and Wind are all particularly terrible. Barons doesn't seem to make sense to me for Oklahoma City (or am I missing something?). Of those names I like Bison just because its unique and kind of goofy, but at least fitting.

The author had this to say about Bison:
Bison: The tradition of the bison could not be mightier. Nevertheless, it is a reality that in 2008 rich white men can not be seen to be sending a predominantly black group of employees into the workplace with the word "bison" across their chest. No way that happens.

Which makes no sense at all. Is Bison/Buffalo some weird racial **** for black people that I'm unaware of? If naming a team after a dark skinned/furred animal was some sort of racial issue they're would be no teams called the bears, cubs or panthers, so thats a pretty silly point he's trying to make.
 
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Which makes no sense at all. Is Bison/Buffalo some weird racial **** for black people that I'm unaware of? If naming a team after a dark skinned/furred animal was some sort of racial issue they're would be no teams called the bears, cubs or panthers, so thats a pretty silly point he's trying to make.

Brush up on some history. Google Buffalo Soldiers.

Standard wiki entry: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo_soldier
 

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^I know what the Buffalo Soldiers were, but it wasn't a racist name. From the page you linked:

Sources disagree on how the nickname "Buffalo Soldiers" began. According to the Buffalo Soldiers National Museum, the name originated with the Cheyenne warriors in 1867, the actual Cheyenne translation being "Wild Buffalo." However, writer Walter Hill documented the account of Colonel Benjamin Grierson, who founded the 10th Cavalry regiment, recalling an 1871 campaign against the Comanche tribe. Hill attributed the origin of the name to the Comanche due to Grierson's assertions. There is some controversy as to where the name originated. Some sources assert that the nickname was given out of respect for the fierce fighting ability of the 10th cavalry.[5] Other sources assert that Native Americans called the black cavalry troops "buffalo soldiers" because of their dark curly hair, which resembled a buffalo's coat.[6] Still other sources point to a combination of both legends.[7] The term Buffalo Soldiers became a generic term for all African-American soldiers. It is now used for U.S. Army units that trace their direct lineage back to the 9th and 10th Cavalry, units whose bravery earned them an honored place in U.S. history.

Its doesn't seem to be a term with any negative connotations at all. Furthermore the words "Buffalo" and "Bison" are different. Also, there is a football team called the Buffalo Bills that uses a Buffalo as its logo and they've always had plenty of black guys on their teams.
 

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I've never heard the term used positively. It's always had a negative connotation because the black soldiers were always frontline infantry often times under supplied. They had a pretty low survival rate. The pride comes into play as being the first African Americans to serve not in how they were used. Furthermore, Buffalo is a city, and not really a chosen name. Though I think a point could be made there...
 

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I've never heard the term used positively. It's always had a negative connotation because the black soldiers were always frontline infantry often times under supplied. They had a pretty low survival rate. The pride comes into play as being the first African Americans to serve not in how they were used. Furthermore, Buffalo is a city, and not really a chosen name. Though I think a point could be made there...

I've never heard it used negatively, I've only heard it used in the context that it was unfortunate that the forces were segregated but that the Buffalo Soldiers were a hard working, hard hitting, admirable group of soldiers.

Also, as far as the Bills thing goes their logo is/was:
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Either way, its a huge stretch to say that "Bisons" is racist. First you have to convert the name to buffaloes, then recall a very specific military troop of African Americans, then claim that the name was derogatory (which there's no evidence of), its a pretty weak case.
 

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Pretty sad, we're such a PC country that we can't name a team after an animal which was huge in Native American cultures, but we can continue to trot a team out named "Redskins". Only in America.
 

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Politically correct = b.s.
That term has deteriorated to mean some wackjob's distorted view.
 

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Bison leads to Buffalo, which leads to Buffalo Soldiers, which leads to Black person, which leads to saying Black which leads to Racism because you said Black, why not just say person instead, because saying Black points out a particular color and pointing out ones color is racism. Except:


_________Not Racist_______________________Racist_____________
BET = Black Entertainment Television .............White Entertainment Television
Miss Black America.................................... ..Miss White America
UNCF = United Negro College Fund .................United White College Fund
Ebony Magazine .........................................Ivory Magazine
there are more.
 

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I've never heard the term used positively. It's always had a negative connotation because the black soldiers were always frontline infantry often times under supplied. They had a pretty low survival rate. The pride comes into play as being the first African Americans to serve not in how they were used. Furthermore, Buffalo is a city, and not really a chosen name. Though I think a point could be made there...
Bob Marley used it in a positive fashion.

Aren't most frontline infantry often times under supplied with a low survival rate?
 

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Bob Marley used it in a positive fashion.

Aren't most frontline infantry often times under supplied with a low survival rate?

Yes, and that's part of the problem. Imagine if the only job you could get in the military was one of these frontline jobs?
 

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Yes, and that's part of the problem. Imagine if the only job you could get in the military was one of these frontline jobs?
Yeah that is bad. So the word "buffalo" is off limits? If the Suns can have a gorilla as a mascot, I think Bison are okay.
 

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Yeah that is bad. So the word "buffalo" is off limits? If the Suns can have a gorilla as a mascot, I think Bison are okay.

Not to me. It was my school's mascot.
 

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